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I hadn't heard about this before ... from bizoffootball.com:
I'm just trying to figure out why DirecTV would eat $1B in 2011 if the NFL owners decide to lock out the players. This almost encourages the owners to kill the whole season, since they'll get their money but not pay any player salaries. (Don't know what deals are in place for the networks.)
It also makes me wonder why the owners are so intent on killing the NFL golden goose. There is no possible way that the owners aren't making money hand over fist, and a prolonged work stoppage (with the possible loss of a Super Bowl) seems to be the one sure way to set the sport back a decade or so.
I'm just trying to figure out why DirecTV would eat $1B in 2011 if the NFL owners decide to lock out the players. This almost encourages the owners to kill the whole season, since they'll get their money but not pay any player salaries. (Don't know what deals are in place for the networks.)
It also makes me wonder why the owners are so intent on killing the NFL golden goose. There is no possible way that the owners aren't making money hand over fist, and a prolonged work stoppage (with the possible loss of a Super Bowl) seems to be the one sure way to set the sport back a decade or so.
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I understand that you are anti-union, but if you think for one second that IF the owners bust the union...they won't jack up your prices....your are in La-La land. I will never side with the owners because every time one cries poverty, he goes and signs a overhyped or over the hill players 5 times over he is true worth. THEN they cry how they are having a tough time running their team.
These owners are MULTI millionaire...and in some cases 100 times over!! Holding cities and fans hostages for new stadiums on tax payer money. :rant:Nope...no pitty on this end! As for the NFL ST.....I am all little confused by the NFL...would they make more money selling it to EVERYONE instead one provider?
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The proof of how owners would treat fans is in the history of how owners treated fans. Before these so-called unions, when players made nice middle class saleries, the owners simply charged less. Tickets were (accounting for inflation) far less, the TV networks were charged far less, and most baseball and hockey games were on free TV. The idea that the players are taking money from the owners, rather than from customers and taxpayers, is simply wrong.
As to the "sign five players and pleed poverty" line, the owners, at least the baseball owners, tried to be reasonable and were found guilty of "collusion" even though they did not collude.
Lastly as to NFLST, the economics of this are simple. DirecTV loses money on this directly (no pun intended). It pays $X and sells significantly less than $X in subscriptions. It thinks, and it is a big company that hopefully knows what it is doing, that it makes this back on the back side by converting customers from other providers. If it were simply available to all providers willing to participate, the most likely rights fee that the NFL would get would be zero. Rather it would get some percentage of the subscribers' fee. The 5%age of that fee would be less than DirecTV pays now, with no risk to the NFL.
I understand that you are anti-union, but if you think for one second that IF the owners bust the union...they won't jack up your prices....your are in La-La land. I will never side with the owners because every time one cries poverty, he goes and signs a overhyped or over the hill players 5 times over he is true worth. THEN they cry how they are having a tough time running their team.
Nope...no pitty on this end! As for the NFL ST.....I am all little confused by the NFL...would they make more money selling it to EVERYONE instead one provider?
The proof of how owners would treat fans is in the history of how owners treated fans. Before these so-called unions, when players made nice middle class saleries, the owners simply charged less. Tickets were (accounting for inflation) far less, the TV networks were charged far less, and most baseball and hockey games were on free TV. The idea that the players are taking money from the owners, rather than from customers and taxpayers, is simply wrong.
As to the "sign five players and pleed poverty" line, the owners, at least the baseball owners, tried to be reasonable and were found guilty of "collusion" even though they did not collude.
Lastly as to NFLST, the economics of this are simple. DirecTV loses money on this directly (no pun intended). It pays $X and sells significantly less than $X in subscriptions. It thinks, and it is a big company that hopefully knows what it is doing, that it makes this back on the back side by converting customers from other providers. If it were simply available to all providers willing to participate, the most likely rights fee that the NFL would get would be zero. Rather it would get some percentage of the subscribers' fee. The 5%age of that fee would be less than DirecTV pays now, with no risk to the NFL.
I guess you just give owners more credit than most of us would. As Sandra said above, do you think for one second that owners would lower ticket prices, lower other fees to attend games (beer/parking/etc.), or lower TV rights fees if they were able to substantially lower player salaries?
By your logic big time college football tickets should be close to free since the only salaries those players make is room and board and tuition (and a few million for the coach).As an example, I'd like to see how much successful NHL teams (Bruins, Flyers, Rangers) lowered their ticket prices after the 2004 lockout lowered player salaries from 76 percent of revenues to 54 percent of revenues (per Wiki). I couldn't find much info in a quick search, but I don't recall hearing that the Flyers cut ticket prices 30% after the lockout ...
Simple economics ... teams will charge what they can for tickets / TV rights to maximize profit. Changing costs will not substantially affect this. Tickets to Yankees games in the 30's cost 25 cents because that's what fans would pay. The Yankees tried to charge $2500 a game for some seats last year because they thought fans would pay it. Not enough did, and it appears that those seats will now sell for $1500 in 2010.
I guess you just give owners more credit than most of us would. As Sandra said above, do you think for one second that owners would lower ticket prices, lower other fees to attend games (beer/parking/etc.), or lower TV rights fees if they were able to substantially lower player salaries?
As an example, I'd like to see how much successful NHL teams (Bruins, Flyers, Rangers) lowered their ticket prices after the 2004 lockout lowered player salaries from 76 percent of revenues to 54 percent of revenues (per Wiki). I couldn't find much info in a quick search, but I don't recall hearing that the Flyers cut ticket prices 30% after the lockout ...
Simple economics ... teams will charge what they can for tickets / TV rights to maximize profit. Changing costs will not substantially affect this. Tickets to Yankees games in the 30's cost 25 cents because that's what fans would pay. The Yankees tried to charge $2500 a game for some seats last year because they thought fans would pay it. Not enough did, and it appears that those seats will now sell for $1500 in 2010.
Thank you! :up It is no different than the airlines....why will they offer a seat $175 round trip when they know there is people always willing to pay more? And IF they WERE to drop prices on the flight...they will make you pay in other ways....like $5 soda cans and $25 for your luggage.
Wake up dude....the owners do not care about the average fan because does not spend as much as the corporate fanS. Perfect example is how much they charege for a Super Bowl/World Series/NBA Finals as compared to regular season. MOST of those seats are priced out of the pocket of Joe Average.
But you really compare the two....because right now....the NFL is MUCH MORE popular than MLB. I don't know about you guys....but IF it is true that now it will be easy to lockout the players by the owners....it's very scary to me that now Directv will dictate how the NFL runs there business....to me it's almost a no brainer they are gonna lockout now. Am I the only one thinking this?
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Love this guy's channel. Looks like Walmart has thrown in the towel when it comes to conventional car batteries.
I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.
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I bought a new AGM battery from Walmart about a year ago, it is already needing replacing. I thought about just buying a regular battery but from what I've read, that might not be a smart move. Might check my Forscan program and see if I can change the battery type from AGM.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awe7kY5nvdU
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]
Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]
The 2025–26 College Football Playoff concluded with the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national championship by defeating the Miami Hurricanes 27–21. [1, 2, 3]
Playoff Results Summary
The 12-team playoff bracket featured the following key results across each round: [1]
- First Round: Alabama defeated Oklahoma (34–24), Miami (Fla.) beat Texas A&M (10–3), Ole Miss topped Tulane (41–10), and Oregon defeated James Madison (51–34) at higher-seeded campus sites.
- Quarterfinals: Miami (Fla.) upset Ohio State (24–14), Oregon shut out Texas Tech (23–0), top-ranked Indiana rolled past Alabama (38–3), and Ole Miss edged Georgia (39–34) across the New Year's Six bowls.
- Semifinals: Miami (Fla.) advanced past Ole Miss (31–27) in the Peach Bowl, while Indiana dominant-defeated Oregon (56–22) in the Fiesta Bowl.
Once the 24 gets here, there won't be anymore Conference Championships .... or so they say.
Oh what the hell, we really don't need Conferences anymore either ...
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Walter Koenig, Chekov on Original ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 90
Walter Koenig, who memorably played Chekov in the original "Star Trek" series and seven "Star Trek" feature films, died Sunday in Los Angeles.
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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