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I hadn't heard about this before ... from bizoffootball.com:
I'm just trying to figure out why DirecTV would eat $1B in 2011 if the NFL owners decide to lock out the players. This almost encourages the owners to kill the whole season, since they'll get their money but not pay any player salaries. (Don't know what deals are in place for the networks.)
It also makes me wonder why the owners are so intent on killing the NFL golden goose. There is no possible way that the owners aren't making money hand over fist, and a prolonged work stoppage (with the possible loss of a Super Bowl) seems to be the one sure way to set the sport back a decade or so.
I'm just trying to figure out why DirecTV would eat $1B in 2011 if the NFL owners decide to lock out the players. This almost encourages the owners to kill the whole season, since they'll get their money but not pay any player salaries. (Don't know what deals are in place for the networks.)
It also makes me wonder why the owners are so intent on killing the NFL golden goose. There is no possible way that the owners aren't making money hand over fist, and a prolonged work stoppage (with the possible loss of a Super Bowl) seems to be the one sure way to set the sport back a decade or so.
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I understand that you are anti-union, but if you think for one second that IF the owners bust the union...they won't jack up your prices....your are in La-La land. I will never side with the owners because every time one cries poverty, he goes and signs a overhyped or over the hill players 5 times over he is true worth. THEN they cry how they are having a tough time running their team.
These owners are MULTI millionaire...and in some cases 100 times over!! Holding cities and fans hostages for new stadiums on tax payer money. :rant:Nope...no pitty on this end! As for the NFL ST.....I am all little confused by the NFL...would they make more money selling it to EVERYONE instead one provider?
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The proof of how owners would treat fans is in the history of how owners treated fans. Before these so-called unions, when players made nice middle class saleries, the owners simply charged less. Tickets were (accounting for inflation) far less, the TV networks were charged far less, and most baseball and hockey games were on free TV. The idea that the players are taking money from the owners, rather than from customers and taxpayers, is simply wrong.
As to the "sign five players and pleed poverty" line, the owners, at least the baseball owners, tried to be reasonable and were found guilty of "collusion" even though they did not collude.
Lastly as to NFLST, the economics of this are simple. DirecTV loses money on this directly (no pun intended). It pays $X and sells significantly less than $X in subscriptions. It thinks, and it is a big company that hopefully knows what it is doing, that it makes this back on the back side by converting customers from other providers. If it were simply available to all providers willing to participate, the most likely rights fee that the NFL would get would be zero. Rather it would get some percentage of the subscribers' fee. The 5%age of that fee would be less than DirecTV pays now, with no risk to the NFL.
I understand that you are anti-union, but if you think for one second that IF the owners bust the union...they won't jack up your prices....your are in La-La land. I will never side with the owners because every time one cries poverty, he goes and signs a overhyped or over the hill players 5 times over he is true worth. THEN they cry how they are having a tough time running their team.
Nope...no pitty on this end! As for the NFL ST.....I am all little confused by the NFL...would they make more money selling it to EVERYONE instead one provider?
The proof of how owners would treat fans is in the history of how owners treated fans. Before these so-called unions, when players made nice middle class saleries, the owners simply charged less. Tickets were (accounting for inflation) far less, the TV networks were charged far less, and most baseball and hockey games were on free TV. The idea that the players are taking money from the owners, rather than from customers and taxpayers, is simply wrong.
As to the "sign five players and pleed poverty" line, the owners, at least the baseball owners, tried to be reasonable and were found guilty of "collusion" even though they did not collude.
Lastly as to NFLST, the economics of this are simple. DirecTV loses money on this directly (no pun intended). It pays $X and sells significantly less than $X in subscriptions. It thinks, and it is a big company that hopefully knows what it is doing, that it makes this back on the back side by converting customers from other providers. If it were simply available to all providers willing to participate, the most likely rights fee that the NFL would get would be zero. Rather it would get some percentage of the subscribers' fee. The 5%age of that fee would be less than DirecTV pays now, with no risk to the NFL.
I guess you just give owners more credit than most of us would. As Sandra said above, do you think for one second that owners would lower ticket prices, lower other fees to attend games (beer/parking/etc.), or lower TV rights fees if they were able to substantially lower player salaries?
By your logic big time college football tickets should be close to free since the only salaries those players make is room and board and tuition (and a few million for the coach).As an example, I'd like to see how much successful NHL teams (Bruins, Flyers, Rangers) lowered their ticket prices after the 2004 lockout lowered player salaries from 76 percent of revenues to 54 percent of revenues (per Wiki). I couldn't find much info in a quick search, but I don't recall hearing that the Flyers cut ticket prices 30% after the lockout ...
Simple economics ... teams will charge what they can for tickets / TV rights to maximize profit. Changing costs will not substantially affect this. Tickets to Yankees games in the 30's cost 25 cents because that's what fans would pay. The Yankees tried to charge $2500 a game for some seats last year because they thought fans would pay it. Not enough did, and it appears that those seats will now sell for $1500 in 2010.
I guess you just give owners more credit than most of us would. As Sandra said above, do you think for one second that owners would lower ticket prices, lower other fees to attend games (beer/parking/etc.), or lower TV rights fees if they were able to substantially lower player salaries?
As an example, I'd like to see how much successful NHL teams (Bruins, Flyers, Rangers) lowered their ticket prices after the 2004 lockout lowered player salaries from 76 percent of revenues to 54 percent of revenues (per Wiki). I couldn't find much info in a quick search, but I don't recall hearing that the Flyers cut ticket prices 30% after the lockout ...
Simple economics ... teams will charge what they can for tickets / TV rights to maximize profit. Changing costs will not substantially affect this. Tickets to Yankees games in the 30's cost 25 cents because that's what fans would pay. The Yankees tried to charge $2500 a game for some seats last year because they thought fans would pay it. Not enough did, and it appears that those seats will now sell for $1500 in 2010.
Thank you! :up It is no different than the airlines....why will they offer a seat $175 round trip when they know there is people always willing to pay more? And IF they WERE to drop prices on the flight...they will make you pay in other ways....like $5 soda cans and $25 for your luggage.
Wake up dude....the owners do not care about the average fan because does not spend as much as the corporate fanS. Perfect example is how much they charege for a Super Bowl/World Series/NBA Finals as compared to regular season. MOST of those seats are priced out of the pocket of Joe Average.
But you really compare the two....because right now....the NFL is MUCH MORE popular than MLB. I don't know about you guys....but IF it is true that now it will be easy to lockout the players by the owners....it's very scary to me that now Directv will dictate how the NFL runs there business....to me it's almost a no brainer they are gonna lockout now. Am I the only one thinking this?
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Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.
DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.
The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.
It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.
DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.
The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.
It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.
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Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.
DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?
Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.
Thanks.
Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.
Thanks.
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WANTED DirecTV LCC
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
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I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.
I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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