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IIRC way back when, there was a combination dual C dual Ku prime focus lnbf available. Is anyone still making something like that? The related question, of course, is...does anyone have a bullseye feedhorn lying around that they want to part with. I have lots of lnb's, but I really hate to pop $400 for a new Chaparral Bullseye.
Unfortunately, it's a real PITA to run more than one receiver on either a C/Ku lnbf or a corotor. I'm just about ready to ditch my analog receiver and run the positioner with a GBox. The problem is dealing with band and polarity selection. None of the FTA receivers will run a corotor servo for polarity, so an lnbf or a bullseye is a better way to go. A 4 or 5 in multiswitch will easily handle the situation on a bullseye or a dual C dual Ku lnbf, but the readily available single C single Ku lnbfs just won't work in that situation.
Any helpful suggestions more than welcome. I guess the other question concerns the availability of a 14/18 to servo interface box. Easy enough to build, I guess. Any commercially available?
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Budfoot
Unfortunately, it's a real PITA to run more than one receiver on either a C/Ku lnbf or a corotor. I'm just about ready to ditch my analog receiver and run the positioner with a GBox. The problem is dealing with band and polarity selection. None of the FTA receivers will run a corotor servo for polarity, so an lnbf or a bullseye is a better way to go. A 4 or 5 in multiswitch will easily handle the situation on a bullseye or a dual C dual Ku lnbf, but the readily available single C single Ku lnbfs just won't work in that situation.
Any helpful suggestions more than welcome. I guess the other question concerns the availability of a 14/18 to servo interface box. Easy enough to build, I guess. Any commercially available?
Thanks
Budfoot
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I would love one of these, I have been looking at WSI's new dual output LNB and would love to see a combined feed with C/KU. 
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the dual output cband lnbfs ive tested are no where near as good as the combo c/ku lnbfs ive tested. im no where near as thorough as pendragon, if he wants ill send him gear to test for me with his methods. i do like his methods. but i am a "tester" and what id like to think of as a rigorous real world tester. when i do spring for an SA i will test all my gear fairly (with mentoring and guidance from someone alot smarter than me like pendragon). i do suffer of canadianitis and have to pay premiums for all the gear i buy, but i do try and own all of the new stuff. most of it sits on top of my fridge with the best residing in my working dishes. i really think though that without developing a proper feed servo controller for our digital stbs that the lnb versus lnbf debate will never have a fair comparison. so many projects, so little time. haha.
crackt out,.
I would love one of these, I have been looking at WSI's new dual output LNB and would love to see a combined feed with C/KU.
the dual output cband lnbfs ive tested are no where near as good as the combo c/ku lnbfs ive tested. im no where near as thorough as pendragon, if he wants ill send him gear to test for me with his methods. i do like his methods. but i am a "tester" and what id like to think of as a rigorous real world tester. when i do spring for an SA i will test all my gear fairly (with mentoring and guidance from someone alot smarter than me like pendragon). i do suffer of canadianitis and have to pay premiums for all the gear i buy, but i do try and own all of the new stuff. most of it sits on top of my fridge with the best residing in my working dishes. i really think though that without developing a proper feed servo controller for our digital stbs that the lnb versus lnbf debate will never have a fair comparison. so many projects, so little time. haha.
crackt out,.
food for thought:
While you do seem to be going in a different direction, let me answer the original questions.
- dual output C-band only LNBFs are available from SatelliteAV (GeoSatPro C2), Sadoun (GeoSatPro C2), and Galaxy (DMX242).
They're quite inexpensive, and easy to experiment with.
- there are still some Pansat receiver models which will drive a corotor servo.
I believe the 2700 ? and the 3500sd will do that.
Both are standard def only, and while not obsolete, are certainly not what most of us want for the future.
- the 12/18 volt servo interface box was described quite well on this forum some time ago.
Building one wouldn't be too difficult.
However, it would not output both H & V polarity at the same time, should that be required, and would continue to rely on older servo technology.
- a suitable Ku feedhorn might be a challenge.
I would probably think first of the AF-120 from Invacom, and marry it to any of their flange-mount, dual output LNBf's.
The QPF-031 comes to mind, if somewhat expensive.
If there is a way to convert a less expensive two-output Ku LNBF to the AF-120, I haven't thought of it.
Oh, wait, the old Primestar LNBs with H & V output might work.
Well, that's an area for some thought.
Bandstacked Approach:
This is not for everyone, but I do bring it up just to offer it for consideration.
The Ku LNB could be a bandstacked Eagle Aspen or DishNetwork FSS device.
It mounts directly to the AF-120 feedhorn above.
The C-band LNBF could be an Eagle Aspen B1 Sat stacked device.
It comes with a suitable scalar ring.
Previously discussed on the forum, a DishNetwork DP-34 multiple-output diseqc switch suports three LNBs and outputs to four receivers.
While you do seem to be going in a different direction, let me answer the original questions.
- dual output C-band only LNBFs are available from SatelliteAV (GeoSatPro C2), Sadoun (GeoSatPro C2), and Galaxy (DMX242).
They're quite inexpensive, and easy to experiment with.
- there are still some Pansat receiver models which will drive a corotor servo.
I believe the 2700 ? and the 3500sd will do that.
Both are standard def only, and while not obsolete, are certainly not what most of us want for the future.
- the 12/18 volt servo interface box was described quite well on this forum some time ago.
Building one wouldn't be too difficult.
However, it would not output both H & V polarity at the same time, should that be required, and would continue to rely on older servo technology.
- a suitable Ku feedhorn might be a challenge.
I would probably think first of the AF-120 from Invacom, and marry it to any of their flange-mount, dual output LNBf's.
The QPF-031 comes to mind, if somewhat expensive.
If there is a way to convert a less expensive two-output Ku LNBF to the AF-120, I haven't thought of it.
Oh, wait, the old Primestar LNBs with H & V output might work.
Well, that's an area for some thought.
Bandstacked Approach:
This is not for everyone, but I do bring it up just to offer it for consideration.
The Ku LNB could be a bandstacked Eagle Aspen or DishNetwork FSS device.
It mounts directly to the AF-120 feedhorn above.
The C-band LNBF could be an Eagle Aspen B1 Sat stacked device.
It comes with a suitable scalar ring.
Previously discussed on the forum, a DishNetwork DP-34 multiple-output diseqc switch suports three LNBs and outputs to four receivers.
Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.
The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!
I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!
I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
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Anybody been following the Tournaments? I've been watching all weekend on the various ESPN's...
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Last weekend I got in on a MLB game top of the 8th 1-1, first thought was extra innings... and it actually went extra after the 9th.
Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
and it actually went extra after the 9th. Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
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So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...
Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.
I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.
What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.
If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.
Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.
MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.
I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.
What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.
If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.
Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.
MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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