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keno

Last reply Dec 16, 2004 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Cancelled Dish

I just cancelled my Dish Network account. The conversation was pretty funny. The first person I spoke with at Dish Network was an Account Representative. He asked me why I was canceling Dish. I informed him we only have High Definition television sets in our house and Dish offers very limited High Definition stations.

At that point he says I was wrong and Dish offers seven (7) High Def channels. I informed him I had Voom and Adelphia Cable, and I receive over 50 High Def channels using these two services, including INHD1, INHD2, HDNet, ABC-HD, NBC-HD, CBS-HD, PBS-HD, FOX-HD, plus 39 more High Def channels on Voom.

His response was that Cable and Voom do not offer "true" high definition like Dish. "Dish is the only provider of true high definition channels". I had to laugh.

Well, then I get transferred to another customer service representative (a disconnect representative) and I had to explain again why I was canceling Dish. He informed me the picture quality on cable and Voom were less superior to Dish, and he also could offer me 3 months of free service if I do not cancel. I cancelled.

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boy921

Dec 5, 2004

Someday, but who knows when, Dish will have more HD channels. Until then we can use other providers who offer more. We can always go back to or go somewhere else when we want to (not including contract agreements). I think that Dish is becoming proactive in getting HD packages to consumers, but until they get a significant number of HD subscribers, little if any additional programming will materialize. If other HD providers have HD content, Dish should follow suit. Dish may even try to outdo the others. Depending on the performance of the next 921 software update will play a big factor on my decision to stay with Dish or dump'em.

fenwah

Dec 7, 2004

I'm going to give them six more months. I may be moving around that time frame anyway. I switched over to Dish Network about seven months ago and have been very happy with it. Unfortunately, I now have a HDTV and refuse to pay for the receiver and $10/month for a few extra channels. Voom is intriguing...I just really don't know what to do right now.

Bruce

Dec 7, 2004

I found I don't really need Voom
Cinemax-HD(HBO shows the same movies,either before or a little after they are on Max)
TMC(same answer with Showtime)
Starz-HD(go look at the complaints(here and AVS) on this channel,lot of upconverts, not many new movies in HD(Disney/Pixar are not in HD,and no OAR, we have widescreen TVs, we should get the whole movie,when you zoom a 2:35 movie to a 16x9 screen, you lose 25% of the picture and 25% of the resolution)

And if you complain about HDNet and Movies not being on Voom, they(Voom forum) just answer back we have the same movies on the Voom movie channels, well then since I get that already why do I need Voom?

skeedatl

Dec 15, 2004

ggw2000 said:
I actually ordered Voom today, but thought before calling DN to cancel I would hop over to the Voom forum. Holy smokes...nightmare after nightmare about poor PQ, bad installs, horrid customer service, bad OTA reception, customers having to buy their own multiswitches for new supposed free installs, and low signal reception here on the west coast. Just seems to me that I shouldn't have to beg for a 24" dish, better OTA antenna or pay for my own switches for a free install.

After reading this this evening I called Voom and cancelled my pending install for the 18th. While I'm bummed at DN's dismal HD offerings I don't want to risk committing to a service where 80% of the posts are complaints about serious problems.

I see that you have been a member for a few months. I suggest that you really need to learn to "read between the lines" when you read these forums. By nature 90% of all posts are generally by people who: Are continuous b*tchers, have nothing else to do, or have no idea what their doing. Very seldom do people who are happy with something post which is too bad. By your theory, I would not have bought a 921 in January. Has it had it's moments-yes, but when I look back I really have enjoyed being able to time shift HD and overall it has been a good investment. I think you are doing yourself a disservice by not trying Voom. It's only a six month commitment for a $1 install! I signed up on saturday and will have it installed on thursday. Time will tell if I made a mistake. But in the end it will be MY mistake to make. Gerry

Well, you can add me to the list of Voom whiners cause I did end up going through with a Voom order and was due to be installed today (this after yet another installer no show 2 days ago). No install due to lack of LOS. Amazing given the clear field of vision all around me...Voom is simply WAY too low on the horizon. To add to that, even if they had LOS I wouldn't have let them do the install since even after CALLING in the order specifically to request that I get the 24" dish and an upgraded OTA antenna...the equipment on the truck was the regular 18" dish and cheesy OTA antenna.

I read between the lines...which is why I tried to order Voom back in July and after 2 installer no-shows gave up and went back to DN (after cancelling Comcrap). And I read between the lines again when cancelling an online order and instead calling up after reading more threads here about people who got Voom, it sucked and they finally got it working right.

It appears that with Voom there are a lot of lines to read between before you find a happy subscriber. It's no wonder they have so few subs. It's obvious when you stick to the lines why that's the case.

ggw2000

Dec 16, 2004

Looking good to me...

skeedatl said:
Well, you can add me to the list of Voom whiners cause I did end up going through with a Voom order and was due to be installed today (this after yet another installer no show 2 days ago). No install due to lack of LOS. Amazing given the clear field of vision all around me...Voom is simply WAY too low on the horizon. To add to that, even if they had LOS I wouldn't have let them do the install since even after CALLING in the order specifically to request that I get the 24" dish and an upgraded OTA antenna...the equipment on the truck was the regular 18" dish and cheesy OTA antenna.

I read between the lines...which is why I tried to order Voom back in July and after 2 installer no-shows gave up and went back to DN (after cancelling Comcrap). And I read between the lines again when cancelling an online order and instead calling up after reading more threads here about people who got Voom, it sucked and they finally got it working right.

It appears that with Voom there are a lot of lines to read between before you find a happy subscriber. It's no wonder they have so few subs. It's obvious when you stick to the lines why that's the case.

Had Voom installed as indicated above. Installer showed up on time and install went problem free. Was up and watching HD in a couple of hours.
Had a few initial problems with their STB but from previous experience with satellite receivers I figured it would update over night and be good to go.
And it did update over night and works great. No problems so far...
Happy camper, Gerry

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 39 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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I Wanna Talk About Me - Toby Keith

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98.6 - Keith

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I'm Easy - Keith Carridine

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It's Easy - Boston

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

mobilemusthave.com

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJy0WnejlF4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WHEcmortfK0?feature=share

dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

www.dailymail.com