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Last reply Mar 17, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

TurboHD Gold/DishAmerica Gold - No new HDs?

Folks:

Did some searching but wanted to confirm that I got double left in the dark with these new channels

1st) Because I get my HDs off 61.5
2nd) Because Dish did not add ANY channels to the old Turbo/DishAmerica packages...

Was going to call dish and get them to come out and do the wing dish but if I can't get them as a subscriber to DishAmerica then no sense... I would think they would give SOME of the new channels to the TurboHD folks....

(Thought the original idea behind TurboHD was that it would have ALL the HDs of the respective packages)

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mcjweb

Mar 16, 2010

I have Turbo/DishAmerica Silver and I've been quietly watching the discussions on this and other boards since the package was launched. The comments have, at times, been brutal. Yes, at any time any one of us on those packages can upgrade and pay more to get the channels that others have had added to their packages for virtually the same cost (when factoring in price hikes and such). While there are some channels that have been added to the same tier of service on the "top" packages that I would have liked to see added to my package, (since they raised my rates too) It hasn't been enough to compel me to pay that much more for the few channels I would watch on the "top" tier and many that I wouldn't.

So, I'm not whining. However, I don't think Dish is doing me any favor either by letting me continue with DishAmerica Silver. It's business. They're making plenty of money off those packages or they wouldn't be offered. Period.

The issue of the "100% HD" Turbo packages has always been the fact that Dish (in some people's words) advertised, promised, whatever you want to call it - but at minimum implied that those packages would include whatever HD Dish had to offer and that has just not been true. Whether it is Dish playing games or the networks that are holding out, makes no real difference to those of us watching TV.

I just wish those of you who are bashing people for complaining would stop and think about it a bit more. Everyone has their reasons for picking the level they are at and we all know we can always pay more and get more. Fact of the matter is that some people paid more and are not getting as much and Dish really should have stepped up and addressed that. Instead, they continue on as if nothing matters and that irritates some people. So what?

I've certainly expressed my thoughts to Dish and, for me, when it irritates me enough, I'll leave and let that do the talking.

dcbag

Mar 16, 2010

very well put, no one could say it better

HDRoberts

Mar 16, 2010

mcjweb said:
I have Turbo/DishAmerica Silver and I've been quietly watching the discussions on this and other boards since the package was launched. The comments have, at times, been brutal. Yes, at any time any one of us on those packages can upgrade and pay more to get the channels that others have had added to their packages for virtually the same cost (when factoring in price hikes and such). While there are some channels that have been added to the same tier of service on the "top" packages that I would have liked to see added to my package, (since they raised my rates too) It hasn't been enough to compel me to pay that much more for the few channels I would watch on the "top" tier and many that I wouldn't.

So, I'm not whining. However, I don't think Dish is doing me any favor either by letting me continue with DishAmerica Silver. It's business. They're making plenty of money off those packages or they wouldn't be offered. Period.

The issue of the "100% HD" Turbo packages has always been the fact that Dish (in some people's words) advertised, promised, whatever you want to call it - but at minimum implied that those packages would include whatever HD Dish had to offer and that has just not been true. Whether it is Dish playing games or the networks that are holding out, makes no real difference to those of us watching TV.

I just wish those of you who are bashing people for complaining would stop and think about it a bit more. Everyone has their reasons for picking the level they are at and we all know we can always pay more and get more. Fact of the matter is that some people paid more and are not getting as much and Dish really should have stepped up and addressed that. Instead, they continue on as if nothing matters and that irritates some people. So what?

I've certainly expressed my thoughts to Dish and, for me, when it irritates me enough, I'll leave and let that do the talking.

The problem with this is you think it was Dish's choice to stop adding HD to these packs. I think Dish would prefer adding all the HD. But I think the content providers put a stop to it. For example, MTV Networks (Viacom) may have not wanted some of their channels added as it would have enabled people to drop MTV2, TV Land, Nick Jr, and so on, thus causing them to lose money. So, faced with only being able to add some channels but not all, Dish decided to add none, and keep the price the same, enabling those perfectly happy with the selection that was originally offered (which was all of you, apparently when you signed up) to keep the pack.

And while Dish may be making money at current levels, they might not if they suddenly added 10 HD channels. Plus, that would only perpetuate the mistaken idea that some of you have that Dish will add all the channels.

"Some people paid more". Who are they?

dcbag

Mar 17, 2010

Oh so now Dish is always the good guy, its alway the providers as the problem. I find that very hard to believe. Just my opinion, but I'm entitled to it.

HDRoberts

Mar 17, 2010

dcbag said:
Oh so now Dish is always the good guy, its alway the providers as the problem. I find that very hard to believe. Just my opinion, but I'm entitled to it.

The providers are never the bad guy? Hey, it could be Dish that's the bad guy. But why promote TurboHD packs, then back off as soon as they started making big deals with big content providers like MTV Networks and Fox? The explanation just seems logical.

madailey

Mar 17, 2010

Even if Dish would come forth and say that an issue came up with the providers allowing them to continue providing HD only content for the Turbo/Dish America packages, it is STILL a "black eye issue" for Dish. They should have had a more concrete plan in place. One with much more extensive research compiled. This would have eliminated any so call surprises. I find it hard to believe that Dish would have created the packages and spent all the money that they had to have tossed for it, from what was seen and heard, and NOT have done this research. I will forever believe that it was a "bait and switch" move. Karma is a _itch and I hope that they lose customers just as fast as they added them from what has become (or will become) the Turbo fiasco.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 42 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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KAB

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Last reply 44 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Green Dot on WJ4?

Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.

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Today at 8:34 AM

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The little green dot inside a small black field in the upper right-hand corner of your screen is an Android privacy indicator confirming that the voice remote's microphone is actively listening. Because the Joey 4 runs on an Android

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Today at 9:16 AM

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Almighty1

55 minutes ago

The green dot on Android TV is supposed to show as long as an app or background service is actively using the microphone or camera. [1, 2]

What Normal Behavior Looks Like

- When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
- When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:

- An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
- A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

How to Fix or Check It

- Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
- Check app permissions: Go to your TV's Settings > Privacy or Device Preferences > Microphone to see which apps have access, and revoke permission for any suspicious or unnecessary apps. [1, 2]

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Scott Greczkowski

44 minutes ago

Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is.

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Bobby

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Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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TheForce

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Last reply Today at 2:25 PM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.

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TheForce

Yesterday at 10:32 AM

Report on my iphone 18 PM
Working well with about 3-4 days battery life. New BT and Wifi range is much better than the 15 I had. It doesn't seem any faster but probably is. The Camera shooting video has amazing image stabilization.
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix. This happens about once a week since buying it.

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Foxbat

Today at 9:54 AM

TheForce said:
Only observed issue is once in awhile, the screen loses touch sensitivity and requires a soft reboot and delete the many open apps to fix.

I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.

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TheForce

Today at 12:53 PM

Foxbat said:
I think your new 18 Pro is fine as this seems to be an iOS 27 bug. My iPhone 17 has similar issues.

My wife hasn't complained about her 17Pro yet.

navychop

Today at 1:01 PM

Shhhh!

Foxbat

Today at 1:15 PM

To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.

TheForce

Today at 2:25 PM

Foxbat said:
To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Usually pressing the screen button and unlocking the phone clears it up. There is one site where touch seems to be royally screwed up. But it's more a case of the touch points not matching the targets on screen.

The most annoying for me is when I'm trying to teach my robot to edit the mowing map and the touch screen quits and I have to reboot and start all over. As long as I reboot the phone the repeat will usually complete the map and it is saved.

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Bruce

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Last reply Today at 2:14 PM · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

thehill.com

That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Today at 5:36 AM

According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

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Jimbo

Today at 8:00 AM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

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Bruce

Today at 8:17 AM

Jimbo said:
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.

Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

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AZ.

Today at 8:25 AM

Bruce said:
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?

Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

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Bruce

Today at 11:08 AM

AZ. said:
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.

But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

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Bobby

Today at 11:20 AM

Bruce said:
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.

Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

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AZ.

Today at 1:09 PM

Bobby said:
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.

Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

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TRG

Today at 2:01 PM

Bruce said:
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish

Bruce

Today at 2:14 PM

AZ. said:
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.

Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 2:00 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Ronnie-

Yesterday at 3:11 PM

The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 3:23 PM

Ronnie- said:
The game time was just a product of so many top 25 matchups. I think they said it was the most in one day since the 1930s.

Not everyone can play at night and get a tv slot.

Of course Lane is gonna complain. It's what he does.

Roll tide.

With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... :argue

)

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 3:28 PM

Jimbo said:
With Streaming, they should all be able to be on at night, no issue with TV slots

(Everybody can be on Peacock ... )

Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 3:58 PM

Ronnie- said:
Could. Yes.

But you know as well as I that they are not going A: put all of their prime matchups on at the same time. And B: take their main games off of the main channels.

You had bama vs lsu, and Georgia vs Ole Miss to choose from.

Considering Georgia had beaten Bama and Ole Miss had beaten LSU, I can see that why they chose that game for the night matchup (without the benefit of hindsight as to how the game's Saturday would play out).

You also had Tennessee vs Kentucky to fit in the mix.

Someone had to be at 2:30. Which imo is honestly my preferred slot for bama games no matter who they are playing or where.

None of them was going to be a streaming only game, and none where going on an "alternate" channel.

Of course ... but they Could.

Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

Ronnie-

Yesterday at 4:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Of course ... but they Could.

Yes. I even said so. But for reasons I gave, they won't. Wouldn't make sense for them too and they would lose money. A lot of these people that watch one of these games, watch more than one.

They want those eyeballs on as many games as possible. It just makes financial sense.

Jimbo said:
Did you realize how early that Utah vs BYU game was Saturday ... I believe it was 12 Noon EST, they are in Mountain time zone, which means they started thier game a 10 AM.

It was early. Sure.

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Today at 9:12 AM

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Ronnie-

Today at 12:34 PM

College Football Playoff, ESPN agree to 5-year, $1.7 billion deal expanding field to 24 teams starting in 2027

The CFP field will have 12 teams this year, before doubling in 2027.

sports.yahoo.com

ESPN and the College Football Playoff (CFP) have agreed to a 5-year deal to expand the playoff from 12 to 24 teams.

The deal, worth $1.7 billion per ESPN's Heather Dinich, keeps ESPN as the broadcast partner.

The CFP announced the deal on Monday.

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cp2k

Today at 1:30 PM

Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Jimbo

Today at 2:00 PM

cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment,(a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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