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March 2010 Programming Highlights


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The Eclipse
Premieres Wednesday, March 24th at 8:00pm followed by encore presentations at 9:30pm and 11:00pm
Starring: Ciarán Hinds, Aidan Quinn, Iben Hjejle
Directed by Conor McPherson
Tony Award-nominated writer/director Conor McPherson ("Shining City," "The Seafarer") brings his dramatic powers to the
screen in horror-love story hybrid. Ciarán Hinds (Munich, There Will Be Blood) plays a widower living in an Irish seaside
town who is struggling to adjust to his new role as the sole caretaker of his two children. When he volunteers at a local
literary festival, his life converges with an author of supernatural fiction (Iben Hjejle, High Fidelity) and a self-obsessed
novelist (Aidan Quinn, Legends Of The Fall). The love triangle engenders passion and rage, and Hinds' character finds
himself increasingly haunted by apparitions too vivid to be mere nightmares.

The Warlords
Premieres Wednesday, March 31st at 8:15pm followed by encore presentations at 10:15pm and 12:15am
Starring: Jet Li, Andy Alu, Takeshi Kaneshiro, Xu Jinglei
Directed by Peter Ho-Sun Chan
Set in the midst of war and political upheaval during the Taiping Rebellion of the 1860s, WARLORDS stars Jet Li as General
Pang, who barely survives a brutal massacre of his fellow soldiers by playing dead, and joins a band of bandits led by Er Hu
(Andy Lau) and Wu Yang (Takeshi Kaneshiro). After fighting back attackers from an helpless village, the three men take an
oath to become "blood brothers," pledging loyalty to one another until death, but things quickly turn sour and the three men
become embroiled in a web of political deceit, and a love triangle between Pang, Er Hu and a beautiful courtesan (Wu Jing-
Lei).


SPOTLIGHT FEATURES

Highlighted feature films airing on HDNet Movies
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Amelie
premiers Wednesday, March 17th at 8:00pm
Starring Audrey Tautou, Mathieu Kassovitz, Rufus. Directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet
Academy Award nominations for Best Foreign Language Film, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Cinematography,
Best Sound and Best Writing
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Foreign Language Film

Dave
premieres Friday, March 12th at 8:00pm
Starring Kevin Kline, Sigourney Weaver, Frank Langella. Directed by Ivan Reitman
Academy Award nomination for Best Writing
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Motion Picture Film – Comedy/Musical and Best Performance by an Actor in a
Motion Picture – Comedy/Musical: Kevin Kline

The Lost World: Jurassic Park
premieres Saturday, March 13th at 8:00pm
Starring Jeff Goldblum, Julianne Moore, Vince Vaughn. Directed by Steven Spielberg
Academy Award nomination for Best Visual Effects

Maverick
premieres Monday, March 8th at 8:00pm
Starring Mel Gibson, Jodie Foster, James Garner. Directed by Richard Donner
Academy Award nomination for Best Costume Design

The Outlaw Josey Wales

Thursday, March 11th at 8:05pm
Starring Clint Eastwood, Chief Dan George, Sandra Locke. Directed by Clint Eastwood
Academy Award nomination for Best Original Score

Tremors

premieres Saturday, March 13th at 10:15pm
Starring Kevin Bacon, Fred Ward, Michael Gross. Directed by Ron Underwood
The Three Musketeers – premieres Saturday, March 27th at 8:00pm
Starring Charlie Sheen, Kiefer Sutherland, Chris O'Donnell. Directed by Stephen Herek


KidScene
A morning block of kids and family films beginning at 9am daily
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The Black Stallion
Starring Kelly Reno, Mickey Rooney, Teri Garr. Directed by Carroll Ballard
Academy Award winner for Special Achievement in Sound Editing - Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor:
Mickey Rooney and Best Film Editing - Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Original Score

The Black Stallion Returns

Starring Kelly Reno, Vincent Spano, Teri Garr
Clifford
Starring Martin Short, Charles Grodin, Mary Steenburgen. Directed by Paul Flaherty

The Crocodile Hunter: Collision Course
Starring Steve Irwin, Teri Irwin, Magda Szubanski. Directed by John Stainton

Freaky Friday

Starring Barbara Harris, Jodie Foster, John Astin. Directed by Gary Nelson
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture Actress: Jodie Foster and Barbara Harris, Best Original Song

Leroy & Stitch

Voices of Daveigh Chase, Tia Carrere, Kevin McDonald. Directed by Tony Craig and Roberts Gannaway

Napoleon

Voices of Jamie Croft, Philip Quast, Susan Lyons. Directed by Mario Andreacchio

Pepple and the Penguin

Voices of Shani Wallis, S. Scott Bullock, Martin Short. Directed by Don Bluth and Gary Goldman

Puss in Boots
Starring Christopher Walken, Jason Connery, Carmela Marner. Directed by Eugene Marner

The Secret of NIMH

Voices of Dom DeLuise, Shannen Doherty, Wil Wheaton. Directed by Don Bluth

Starchaser: The Legend of Orin

Voices of Dennis Alwood, Carmen Argenziano, Daryl Bartley. Directed by Steven Hawn

Tarka the Otter

Starring Peter Ustinov, Peter Bennett, Edward Underdown. Directed by David Cobham

Thunderbird 6

Voices of Peter Dyneley, Sylvia Anderson, Shane Rimmer. Directed by David Lane

Thunderbirds Are GO

Voices of Peter Dyneley, Sylvia Anderson, Shane Rimmer. Directed by David Lane


PROGRAM SPECIAL

A weeklong tribute to Academy Award winning films leading up to the Oscars on March 7th

Marty
Monday, March 1st at 8:05pm
Starring Ernest Borgnine, Betsy Blair, Esther Minciotti. Directed by Delbert Mann
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor: Ernest Borgnine and Best Writing - Screenplay

The Bad and the Beautiful
Monday, March 1st at 9:45pm
Starring Lana Turner, Kirk Douglas, Walter Pidgeon. Directed by Vincente Minnelli
Academy Award winner for Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Supporting Actress: Gloria Grahame, Best Costume
Design, Best Writing – Screenplay, and Best Cinematography

The Apartment
Tuesday, March 2nd at 8:00pm
Starring Jack Lemmon, Shirley MacLaine, Fred MacMurray. Directed by Billy Wilder
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration and
Best Writing – Story and Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen

Pillow Talk
Tuesday, March 2nd at 10:15pm
Starring Rock Hudson, Doris Day, Tony Randall. Directed by Michael Gordon
Academy Award winner for Best Writing – Story and Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen

On Golden Pond
Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:00pm
Starring Katharine Hepburn, Henry Fonda, Jane Fonda. Directed by Mark Rydell
Academy Award winner for Best Actor: Henry Fonda, Best Actress Katharine Hepburn and Best Writing – Screenplay
Based on Material from another Medium

Dead Poets Society

Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:00pm
Starring Robin Williams, Robert Sean Leonard, Ethan Hawke. Directed by Peter Weir
Academy Award winner for Best Writing – Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen

The Black Stallion
Thursday, March 4th at 8:00pm
Starring Kelly Reno, Mickey Rooney, Teri Garr. Directed by Carroll Ballard
Academy Award winner for Special Achievement in Sound Editing

The Big Country
Thursday, March 4th at 10:00pm
Starring Gregory Peck, Jean Simmons, Caroll Baker. Directed by William Wyler
Academy Award winner for Best Supporting Actor: Burl Ives

Adaptation
Friday, March 5th at 8:00pm
Starring Nicolas Cage, Meryl Streep, Chris Cooper. Directed by Spike Jonze
Academy Award winner for Best Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper

The Crying Game
Friday, March 5th at 10:00pm
Starring Forrest Whitaker, Stephen Rea, Miranda Richardson. Directed by Neil Jordan
Academy Award winner for Best Writing – Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen

A River Runs Through It

Saturday, March 6th at 8:00pm
Starring Brad Pitt, Craig Sheffer, Tom Skerritt. Directed by Robert Redford
Academy Award winner for Best Cinematography

Unforgiven
Saturday, March 6th at 10:15pm
Starring Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman. Directed by Clint Eastwood
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Gene Hackman

Doctor Zhivago
Sunday, March 7th at 5:45pm
Starring Omar Sharif, Julie Christie, Geraldine Chaplin. Directed by David Lean
Academy Award winner for Best Writing – Screenplay Based on Material from another Medium, Best
Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Costume Design, Best Music – Score, Best Cinematography

Gigi
Sunday, March 7th at 9:00pm
Starring Leslie Caron, Maurice Chevalier, Louis Jourdan. Directed by Vincente Minnelli - Academy Award winner for Best
Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Costume Design, Best Film Editing, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration,
Best Writing - Screenplay Based on Material from another Medium, Best Original Song, and Best Music: Scoring of a Musical


NATIONAL FILM REGISTRY

HDNet Movies presents American Films selected by the Library of Congress for historical
and cultural preservation. For more information on film preservation, visit National Film Preservation Board (Library of Congress) and National Film Preservation Foundation
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Adam's Rib
Starring Spencer Tracy, Katharine Hepburn, Judy Holliday. Directed by George Cukor
Academy Award nomination for Best Writing
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress: Judy Holliday

The Apartment

Starring Jack Lemmon, Shirley MacLaine, Fred MacMurray. Directed by Billy Wilder
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration and Best Writing
Academy Award nominations for Best Actor: Jack Lemmon, Best Actress: Shirley MacLaine, Best Supporting Actor: Jack
Kruschen, Best Cinematography and Best Sound
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture – Comedy, Best Motion Picture Actor: Jack Lemmon and Best Motion
Picture Actress: Shirley MacLaine
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Motion Picture Director

The Bad and the Beautiful

Starring Lana Turner, Kirk Douglas, Walter Pidgeon. Directed by Vincente Minnelli
Academy Award winner for Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Supporting Actress: Gloria Grahame, Best Costume
Design, Best Writing and Best Cinematography
Academy Award nomination for Best Actor: Kirk Douglas
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Supporting Actress: Gloria Grahame and Best Supporting Actor: Gilbert Roland

The Black Stallion
Starring Kelly Reno, Mickey Rooney, Teri Garr. Directed by Carroll Ballard
Academy Award winner for Special Achievement in Sound Editing
Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor: Mickey Rooney and Best Film Editing
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Original Score

Gigi
Starring Leslie Caron, Maurice Chevalier, Louis Jourdan. Directed by Vincente Minnelli
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Costume Design, Best Film Editing, Best
Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Writing, Best Original Song, and Best Music: Scoring of a Musical Picture
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture – Musical, Best Motion Picture Director and Best Supporting Actress:
Hermione Gingold
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture Actress: Leslie Caron, Best Motion Picture Actor: Maurice
Chevalier, and Best Motion Picture Actor: Louis Jourdan

Marty

Starring Ernest Borgnine, Betsy Blair, Esther Minciotti. Directed by Delbert Mann
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor: Ernest Borgnine and Best Writing
Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress: Betsy Blair, Best Supporting Actor: Joe Mantell, Best Art Direction-
Set Decoration and Best Cinematography

The Outlaw Josey Wales
Starring Clint Eastwood, Chief Dan George, Sandra Locke. Directed by Clint Eastwood
Academy Award nomination for Best Original Score

Pillow Talk

Starring Rock Hudson, Doris Day, Tony Randall. Directed by Michael Gordon
Academy Award winner for Best Writing - Academy Award nominations for Best Actress: Doris Day, Best Supporting Actress:
Thelma Ritter, Best Music and Best Art Direction-Set Decoration
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Comedy, Best Motion Picture Actress: Doris Day and Best
Motion Picture Supporting Actor: Tony Randall

Unforgiven

Starring Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman. Directed by Clint Eastwood
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Gene Hackman
Academy Award nominations for Best Actor: Clint Eastwood, Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best
Sound and Best Writing
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture Director: Clint Eastwood and Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting
Role: Gene Hackman
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama and Best Screenplay – Motion Picture


In Retro
Memorable Classic movies airing Sunday Nights and throughout the month

Doctor Zhivago
Sunday, March 7th at 5:45pm
Starring Omar Sharif, Julie Christie, Geraldine Chaplin. Directed by David Lean
Academy Award winner for Best Writing, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Costume Design, Best Music – Score,
Best Cinematography
Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Film Editing, Best Sound and Best Supporting Actor:
Tom Courtenay
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Motion Picture Director, Best Screenplay,
Best Original Score, Best Motion Picture Actor: Omar Sharif and Most Promising Newcomer: Geraldine Chaplin

Gigi
Sunday, March 7th at 9:00pm
Starring Leslie Caron, Maurice Chevalier, Louis Jourdan. Directed by Vincente Minnelli
Academy Award winner for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Costume Design, Best Film Editing, Best
Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Writing, Best Original Song, and Best Music: Scoring of a Musical Picture
Golden Globe Award winner for Best Motion Picture – Musical, Best Motion Picture Director and Best Supporting Actress:
Hermione Gingold
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture Actress: Leslie Caron, Best Motion Picture Actor: Maurice
Chevalier, and Best Motion Picture Actor: Louis Jourdan

The Missouri Breaks

premieres Sunday, March 14th at 8:00pm
Starring Marlon Brando, Jack Nicholson, Randy Quaid. Directed by Arthur Penn

The China Syndrome

Sunday, March 14th at 10:15pm
Starring Jane Fonda, Jack Lemmon, Michael Douglas. Directed by James Bridges
Academy Award nominations for Best Actress: Jane Fonda, Best Actor: Jack Lemmon, Best Writing and Best Art Direction-
Set Decoration
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Motion Picture Director, Best Motion Picture
Actress: Jane Fonda, Best Motion Picture Actor: Jack Lemmon, and Best Motion Picture Screenplay

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Sunday, March 21st at 6:00pm
Starring Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef, Eli Wallach. Directed by Sergio Leone
The Outlaw Josey Wales – Sunday, March 21st at 9:05pm
Starring Clint Eastwood, Chief Dan George, Sandra Locke. Directed by Clint Eastwood
Academy Award nomination for Best Original Score

Pillow Talk
Sunday, March 28th at 5:30pm
Starring Rock Hudson, Doris Day, Tony Randall. Directed by Michael Gordon
Academy Award winner for Best Writing
Academy Award nominations for Best Actress: Doris Day, Best Supporting Actress: Thelma Ritter, Best Music and Best Art
Direction-Set Decoration
Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Comedy, Best Motion Picture Actress: Doris Day and Best
Motion Picture Supporting Actor: Tony Randall

Send Me No Flowers
Sunday, March 28th at 8:15pm
Starring Rock Hudson, Doris Day, Tony Randall. Directed by Norman Jewison
Lover Come Back – Sunday, March 28th at 10:05pm
Starring Rock Hudson, Doris Day, Tony Randall. Directed by Delbert Mann
Academy Award nomination for Best Writing
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor: Tony Randall

The Thrill of It All
late night Sunday, March 28th at 12:00am
Starring Doris Day, James Garner, Arlene Francis. Directed by Norman Jewison


ART HOUSE CINEMA
Independent films, foreign films and documentaries airing throughout the month
See program schedule or HDNet Movies for complete listings of dates and times


Amelie

Starring Audrey Tautou, Mathieu Kassovitz, Rufus. Directed by Jean-Pierre Jeunet
Academy Award nominations for Best Foreign Language Film, Best Art Direction-Set Decoration, Best Cinematography,
Best Sound and Best Writing
Golden Globe Award nomination for Best Foreign Language Film

Adaptation

Starring Nicolas Cage, Meryl Streep, Chris Cooper. Directed by Spike Jonze
Academy Award winner for Best Supporting Actor: Chris Cooper
Academy Award nomination for Best Actor: Nicholas Cage, Best Actress: Meryl Streep and Best Writing - Adapted Screenplay

The Company

Starring Neve Campbell, Malcolm McDowell, James Franco. Directed by Robert Altman

The Crying Game
Starring Forrest Whitaker, Stephen Rea, Miranda Richardson. Directed by Neil Jordan
Academy Award winner for Best Writing – Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen
Academy Award nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor: Stephen Rea, Best Supporting Actor: Jaye Davidson,
and Best Film Editing

Danny Deckchair

Starring Rhys Ifans, Miranda Otto, Justine Clarke. Directed by Jeff Balsmeyer

District B-13

Starring Cyril Raffaelli David Belle, Tony A'Mario. Directed by Pierre Morel

Pink Floyd: The Wall

Starring Bob Geldof, Bob Hoskins, Christine Hargreaves. Directed by Alan Parker


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teachsac
I got JPII off of one of the premiums a few months ago, so I'm good on al of the JP's

S~
dfergie
I have Tremors, but usually HDNet has much better PQ...
long_time_Dish
I got JPII off of one of the premiums a few months ago, so I'm good on al of the JP's

S~

Must've been more than a few months ago...I've been waiting to get JP II to complete my collection in HD (without commercials) for over 6-7 months and haven't seen it on any of the premiums since I and III started in rotation a month or so after HDNet Movies aired them... ;)
Ilya
Some good movies this month! I DVR'd a second copy of Amelie - one of my all-time favorites!
Lothar27
The Warlords came out overseas in 2007. You can find it if you *cough* know where to look.

Still like to see it in HD though. Will probably DVR it.
K
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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MikeD-C05
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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osu1991
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
MikeD-C05
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
Say, I don't wear socks or shoes in my house either. But for a captain in Star Fleet it looks bad to be walking around the academy with no shoes. Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
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Jimbo
Gives off 1960 Hippie vibes.
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
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MikeD-C05
You say that like it's a Bad thing or something ... :biggrin
For a whole generation of adults it was in the 1960s and 1970s.

All In The Family Nostalgia GIF by Sony Pictures Television
All In The Family Singing GIF by Sony Pictures Television
harshness
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
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long_time_Dish
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Jimbo
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...
Me either ...
They turned out to be a Poor adversary ....
Foxbat
They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"
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The title was to catch everyone's eye lol! But it is a thought I've been having as I dev a Roku app for a client. You see many MAAANY years ago I got really interested in cable TV channels and even chatted with a regional carrier, Insight about what it took to get a channel number. It was surprisingly easy although prohibitively expensive.



You could petition, reserve a high channel number, they monitored performance and if they liked you, you'd get lower channel number overtime and cut into ad overlays.



Roku has a similar setup. Make an app, if it has a strong, original linear component you could get channel assignment on The Roku Channel.



As mixed as my feelings are on the current media landscape, I can't help but feel a little excited interest when I scope out the apps in the Roku store.
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JSheridan
Lifetime Supporter
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Foxbat
Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
Jimbo
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
Oh Yes, the Genaric Commercials .... have you seen the DR Trimmer commercials lately (and accessories )
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Jimbo
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
Not many are watching.
Majority are watching the same shows in HD or 4K
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Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…
have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
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Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?
Foxbat
have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin :clapping
Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…🤞🏻🤣
SuperDish_Fan23
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!
Almighty1
I remember this in the news too...

Bobby
I remember this in the news too...

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
SuperDish_Fan23
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
S
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg
T
Slicker guides never did much for me
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Almighty1
That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
Good point as part of that time mentioned was before I was even alive.

While reports from the family's case focused entirely on the equipment rental charges, media records show that Ester Strogen originally started by paying $29.95 per quarter ($9.98 per month) in the 1960s for her combined telephone connection.
The actual base cost for standard residential telephone service over a 42-year period (spanning roughly 1964 to 2006) reveals how basic connection costs evolved compared to the equipment rental fees:

Historical Phone Service Rates
  • 1960s – 1970s Base Rate: Standard local phone service was heavily subsidized and tightly regulated under the Bell System monopoly. A basic landline package with unlimited local calling typically cost between $5.00 and $10.00 per month.
  • 1980s – 2000s Post-Deregulation Rate: Following the AT&T divestiture in 1984, base line service rates steadily climbed due to the introduction of subscriber line charges, touch-tone fees, and local infrastructure adjustments. By 2006, basic flat-rate local residential phone service hovered around $15.00 to $25.00 per month (excluding long-distance packages and taxes).
The True Lifetime Service Bill

Assuming an average baseline connection fee of roughly $12.00 a month over that 42-year span, the line connectivity itself would have realistically accumulated to approximately $6,000 in raw cash payouts.
When you bundle the actual service costs together with the escalating equipment rental fees, the total cumulative out-of-pocket phone expenses over those four decades easily crossed $12,000 to $14,000. Long-distance phone calls—which were billed entirely by the minute back then and could cost up to 15 to 30 cents per minute—would add significantly more to that historical total depending on usage.

The widely publicized calculation stems from a viral news story from 2006 involving a widow named Ester Strogen. Her family discovered she had been continuously leasing two rotary dial telephones from AT&T for 42 years.
The total cost—which actually came out to more than $14,000 by the time the lease was canceled—was calculated based on the following legacy telecom structure:
  • The Monthly Fee: At the time her granddaughters discovered the charges, the ongoing leasing fee was $29.10 per month for the two outdated phones.
  • The Math: Over 42 years (504 months), paying roughly $24 to $30 a month accumulates to between $12,000 and $14,600 ($29.10 × 504 months = $14,666.40).
Why did this happen?
Prior to the landmark breakup of AT&T ("Ma Bell") in 1984, consumers were legally not allowed to own their phones; they were required to lease them directly from the phone company.
When the laws changed and phone ownership became legal, AT&T spun off its rental division into a company called QLT Consumer Lease Services. Millions of customers, particularly elderly individuals who were used to seeing a single unified phone bill, simply never realized that the small recurring "equipment lease" line-item could be canceled by buying a cheap phone at a retail store.

Yes, leasing absolutely cost that much in reality, and the math is entirely accurate. However, the calculations performed by the family did contain one major historical nuance: they multiplied the final 2006 rate across all 42 years, which means the actual total cash paid out was likely a bit lower.
The original viral story focused on 82-year-old widow Ester Strogen from Canton, Ohio, who paid $29.10 a month for two black rotary phones until her family intervened in July 2006.
The reality behind how the cost reached that staggering total breaks down into two distinct phases:

Phase 1: The Historical Base Rate (1960s – 1984)

When Strogen first got the phones in the 1960s, renting was a legal mandate and cost a fraction of the 2006 price—usually just a few dollars a month.
  • The "Insurance" Mirage: In exchange for that fee, Ma Bell promised free, lifetime maintenance. If the phone broke, they replaced it instantly at no extra cost.
  • The Cost-Plus Reality: Because these solid-state phones were built like tanks out of heavy plastic and steel, they almost never broke. Consumers paid a continuous premium for decades for a repair service they rarely used.
Phase 2: The Deregulation Rate Hikes (1984 – 2006)

After AT&T was forced to break up its monopoly in 1984, the rental side of the business was shifted to Lucent Technologies and later a legacy holding company. To maximize profit off a shrinking customer base, they steadily increased the monthly rental fees over the next 20 years.
  • By 2006, the rental cost had quietly ballooned to roughly $14.55 per phone per month.
  • When the family discovered the $29.10 monthly charge, they looked back at the 42-year span and estimated the collective loss at over $14,000.
Even adjusted for historical inflation—where $2 a month in 1964 had the purchasing power of roughly $20 today—Ester Strogen and hundreds of thousands of other elderly Americans realistically paid thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for standard desk phones they could have purchased at retail for $10.

The exact out-of-pocket dollar amount Ester Strogen paid over those 42 years was never publicly determined, as neither AT&T nor the family had access to monthly billing records stretching all the way back to the 1960s.
The figures reported in the media are entirely mathematical estimates based on the 2006 rate. The two primary numbers used to define the "cost" are:
  • The Stated Media Total: More than $14,000.
  • The Exact Family Formula: $14,666.40. This was derived by taking her final recorded bill of $29.10 per month and multiplying it across the full 42 years (504 months).
What the True Cash Cost Likely Was

Because AT&T did not charge $29.10 a month back in 1964, the true historical cash sum she handed over was lower than $14,000. In the 1960s and 1970s, basic phone lease fees were generally bundled into standard service or itemized at just $1.00 to $2.00 a month per phone.
If we realistically assume she paid lower base rates for the first 20 years before the post-1984 deregulation price hikes took effect, a realistic estimate of the actual cash paid is between $5,000 and $7,000.

The Real Cost When Adjusted for Inflation

While the family's $14,000 calculation overestimates the raw cash paid, it actually underestimates the true economic damage when factoring in the time value of money.
Paying $2.00 a month for equipment in 1964 sounds minor, but due to severe inflation during the 1970s, those early single dollars had the purchasing power of roughly $20.00 each in 2006 terms. If you adjust every historical lower monthly payment upward to account for inflation, Ester Strogen realistically lost the equivalent of well over $15,000 in modern purchasing power by renting instead of buying.
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Slicker guides never did much for me
me either. sometimes it seems like things disappear when they start changing sh*t around :biggrin
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I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!
you would be better off looking in ca for a train wreck to nowhere :biggrin :p
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So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.
harshness
One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
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One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.
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WPLG/10 Miami is now available to stream customers

The CW stations WCWW/25 South Bend and WBKP/5 Marquette are testing on the stream server

Last week they also added a bunch of CW stations that are still not available to sat customers:
WETM-DT/19 Elmira
WJET-DT/25 Erie
KLFY-DT/11 Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 Utica
KFDX-DT/4 Wichita Falls
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Well, that was fast ! DTV Stream brought back WTCN's HD signal today.

I have to assume the station signing up a week ago as the Miami Heat affiliate here (to carry their games) did the trick. NBA magic !!!

Or the station engineer took care of the problem after hearing about it.
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WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.
Channel 28 Nashville hasn't been added so far, correct?
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WNPX Nashville and WMYD Detroit were added to stream about 2 months ago.

They also now have PRDTRS/651 for those in Predators territory outside of the Nashville DMA and PISTONS/663-2 for those in Pistons territory outside of the Detroit DMA.
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
rvvaquero
Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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Got to unfurl and hold the flag at Allegiant for the anthem today - amazing experience.
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