GEOSATpro Does anyone recognize these channels (/audio loop)?

[natevw]

Hi all, I recently inherited a FTA system off Craiglist and have been trying to get it set up. What I got was a Glorystar-branded ~90cm offset dish with a ground mount (/flat roof) frame, and GEOSATpro DSR200c receiver. From that initial equipment, I've replaced the old LNBF with a (cheap!) new one and also splurged on an SG-2100 H-H motorized rotor which does respond from the receiver's USALS menu.

The previous owner had it set up for religious programming on Galaxy 19 and I've been trying to start by finding that same bird at least. After a couple sessions I'm not sure I have, but I've found *something* at least! A handful of motor ticks further than the dish wants to be for 97W after starting from motor 0 pointing as much south as I can guess at. (I don't have great references to aim for and it's really hard to sight where exactly the dish is pointing anyway….)

Anyway, so far there's only one transponder that I've ever been able to catch as I search. It's 12146 V and when the receiver scans it I get this list of video channels:

• 1.1 Srv_1
• 2.84 OU_Chan
• 3.2 Srv_2
• 4.5 Srv_5
• 5.3 Srv_3
• 6.4 Srv_4
• 7.6 Srv_6
• 8.7 Srv_7

There's iirc three audio channels it finds too but I didn't get a good snapshot of those. All the channels except for one seem to be dead (black screen and silent audio), except for the OU_Chan one which on both days I found it was just rolling one same ad over and over on a loop. I won't repeat the full roll since I don't want to spam the forums as my first post but it's a long-winded spiel about "you know us as an industry-leading satellite solutions provider with over a quarter million sites" and to call them For All Your Every Needs™ type thing.

While I get little blips from other frequencies, this is the only strong transponder I've been able to come across. My receiver shows it as S 75 and Q up to 85 when I adjust it. It actually seemed to get better as I **un**skewed my LBNF — iiuc G19 was supposed to be -20º for me but however I'm supposed to be reading/referencing the angles the puck is now basically at 0º relative to the dish/arm got the strongest on this transponder.

Anyway sorry this is so long winded already… my question is, do I even have the right satellite? None of the other transponders that are supposed to be active on G-19 seem to come in. And if not the right satellite does anyone happen to recognize which one I might have found instead? I think knowing that would help me then adjust for a truer south aim and then hopeful the USALS will work automatically once I can get it dialed in.

 

[cyberham]

You are definitely receiving 101W SES 1. Click here for reference of what you will see on that satellite.

If your receiver shows a frequency of 12146 V 20000, then you have the local oscillator (LO) frequency set wrong since the frequency of this transponder you are receiving is 12000 V 20000.

Added: I suspect you have installed a universal LNB with LO of 10600 MHz and you have your receiver set instead for a standard LNB that requires an LO of 10750 MHz.

 

[Titanium]

Also note, the DSR200c is a legacy receiver capable of receiving DVBS MPEG2 SD mode only. View a satellite channel chart such as www.lyngsat.com to determine if the channel(s) that you are trying to program are MPEG2 SD.

 

[natevw]

You are definitely receiving 101W SES 1. Click here for reference of what you will see on that satellite.

Thank you, yes!! "Microspace promo" indeed. And with it all being MPEG-4 would explain why the channels don't show anything; must just have a compatible audio codec for the one but otherwise my receiver is too outdated.

If your receiver shows a frequency of 12146 V 20000, then you have the local oscillator (LO) frequency set wrong since the frequency of this transponder you are receiving is 12000 V 20000.

Added: I suspect you have installed a universal LNB with LO of 10600 MHz and you have your receiver set instead for a standard LNB that requires an LO of 10750 MHz.

Aaaaaaaaah yes. I know the receiver is set to 10750 and just double-checked on the LNBF it's indeed labelled "L.O.:9,75/10,60 GHz". I'm optimistic that will now help me find the other satellites better too with the TP frequencies matched up.

I'm trying to resist doing another round already this morning, really should stick to office hours and save it for evening but excited to have more figured out!

On the positioning, makes sense because I was never super confident and I did nudge it a bit farther west too. It's unclear to me the best way to proceed now with the USALS because I can "Save satellite position" but I'm not sure if that adjusts all the others and/or the 0º point. And experimenting will kind of mess it up so I might do both: try to figure out what the menu options do as far as offseting the angle, but also just loosen my mount and swivel it over a bit closer to due south by default.

The LO frequency explains why I was having trouble matching the satellite I did find with anything, and also (hopefully!) why I had such bad luck finding any other transponders anywhere. Like I said I'm eager for the next round of searching because it feels like I'm getting close.

And I think I figured out the skew thing too even! Found in some other posts especially OTHER - Cannot Find Galaxy 19 FTA 97 West :( had a nice picture that helped me visualize better. I think the skew is for when you've got the dish itself straight up and down. With my polar mount, I think the dish itself ends up getting twisted the right way for its own angle as a whole to match the satellite with the LNBF set to 0º skew now relative to the dish.

 

[cyberham]

Correct LO setting to 10600 MHz. Set receiver to 12053 V 22000. Use USALS to motor over to 97W Galaxy 19. Then, loosen bolts and rotate entire assembly (motor & dish) very slightly east or west until you peak on that transponder.

You should be able to blind scan in 6 transponders (DVB-S) and dozens of channels.

When using a motor, just set skew of LNB for 0 degrees and don't change it. The motor automatically rotates the dish to the correct skew.

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[natevw]

Correct LO setting to 10600 MHz. Set receiver to 12053 V 22000. Use USALS to motor over to 97W Galaxy 19. Then, loosen bolts and rotate entire assembly (motor & dish) very slightly east or west until you peak on that transponder.

Done and done and done! I ended up doing a bit more iteration (back and forth between the left-right and up-down adjustments) but I've now got it landing on G19 at its default position for 97W.

You should be able to blind scan in 6 transponders (DVB-S) and dozens of channels.

Yep, ended up with a page or two full on my receiver's search. Didn't double-check that my receiver has all six of the right transponders but I can mess with that later if it turns out I'm missing something interesting but still DVB-S / MPEG-2 compatible.

When using a motor, just set skew of LNB for 0 degrees and don't change it. The motor automatically rotates the dish to the correct skew.

Yep, can see definite signal degradation as soon as I skew the LNB either way from "straight" (seam on the LNB lined up with the clamps on the mounting bracket). Will make setup easier if I want to try swapping anything else in!

I don't know if there's any good (unencrypted, DVB-S) satellite farther away to really check the sweep against, but I was at least able to program in my original find at 101.0 W back in (now at the correct "12000 V 20000" setting) and can get both birds automatically.

Shouldn't be *that* exciting since it's just an ad, but still really fun to choose channels on the other one and have it jog over and lock on

 

[cyberham]

Motor over to 123W Galaxy 18 and try for 12078 V 3680 (Korean Broadcasting System). It is DVB-S. And 12008 H 12660 (Daystar mux) on the same satellite.

Beyond these, you'll need your new receiver that supports DVB-S2.

 

[Brct203]

Done and done and done! I ended up doing a bit more iteration (back and forth between the left-right and up-down adjustments) but I've now got it landing on G19 at its default position for 97W.


Yep, ended up with a page or two full on my receiver's search. Didn't double-check that my receiver has all six of the right transponders but I can mess with that later if it turns out I'm missing something interesting but still DVB-S / MPEG-2 compatible.

Yep, can see definite signal degradation as soon as I skew the LNB either way from "straight" (seam on the LNB lined up with the clamps on the mounting bracket). Will make setup easier if I want to try swapping anything else in!

I don't know if there's any good (unencrypted, DVB-S) satellite farther away to really check the sweep against, but I was at least able to program in my original find at 101.0 W back in (now at the correct "12000 V 20000" setting) and can get both birds automatically.

Shouldn't be *that* exciting since it's just an ad, but still really fun to choose channels on the other one and have it jog over and lock on

beside 123W, another one to try (if it's above the horizon at your location) is Hispasat @30W. It has at least 2 DVB-S transponders with SD/Mpeg2 channels