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I have been a Dish network subscriber since 97. I now want to move up to the 921, since I've had my HDTV for a year now. I currently have the Dish 500 with 4 receivers. One PVR501 and 3 basic receivers. I have a SW64 switch.
I called Dish about their $549.00 offer on the 921, and they told me they would give me the HD pack for half price for a year and the PVR fee would be waived since I subcribe to everything. The CSR said they would only ship the unit to me, no install , since I am only replacing a unit and not adding an additional one. He said all I would have to do is hook up the 921 in the location where I have the 501. Is this correct?

I appreciate any info you experienced guys can offer!

Thanks!
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One More Would-be 921 Customer with Questions

Texxasguy and I may be twin sons of different mothers, we both have the same setup equipment. I have also been considering jumping to the 921, as the HDTV I have seen on my OTA STB is phenomenal.

Given all the technical talk about having to change to DISHPro, or whatever (is SuperDish in this mix?), there is no way I am doing the antennae changeout. Would DISH include all this new rooftop equipment as part of a 921/HD package upgrade? When I added locals, I got a second antenna, so now I have the dual LNB for 110/119 (with "DISH 500" on the dish face; and a single LNB on the other dish [also labeled "DISH 500] which gets 148), all of which go to a SW64.

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SimpleSimon
Den: It depends on how many existing boxes you've got and are keeping.

You have a 3-bird setup, which fills your Legacy switch (2 wires per bird for Legacy switching). BTW, you are misrefering your LNB names. A Legacy "single" can NOT feed a SW64, and if there's only one housing on the other dish, it must be a Legacy Quad to get the necessary 4 wires. More likely is a pair of Duals on the D500, giving you a total of 3 Legacy Dual LNBFs.

If you are going to end up with more than 4 tuners, the SW64 can NOT handle it, and a switchout to DishPro is the most desirable answer.
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I knew someone would understand it all:-) Most likely would keep the two existing receivers, as I have lifetime TiVo for their companion PVR's, and then have the 921 feed my Sony 57."

So, to ask a really dumb question: "Legacy" refers to the original DISH equipment, and is not otherwise labeled as "Legacy?"

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ajohnson
I'm bored, I'm going to do an information dump here :)

"Legacy" just refers to all non-DishPro equipment. This covers any receivers with 4 digit model numbers, any switches with models starting with the letters "SW", and any lnbfs that do not have a big black "DP" symbol on them.

The flip side of this is that "DishPro" stuff is all receivers with 3 digit model numbers, all switches with models starting with "DP" (short for DishPro), and all lnbfs that do have the black "DP" symbol on them.

Some caveats to converting to dishpro:

You cannot mix dishpro lnbfs and switches. They must all be dishpro or all legacy.

Dishpro receivers will work with legacy lnbfs and switches

legacy receivers require an adapter to work with dishpro lnbfs and switches, except for the dpp44 and dishpro twin lnbf (directly connected)

The dpp44 and dishpro twin lnbf can feed a dual receiver unit (322, 522, 721, 921) with a single cable, using a seperater at the receiver.

The dpp44 and dp34 switches have cascade ports so you can easily daisy chain multiple switches and get more than 4 receivers. A dp34 may be chained off a dpp44, losing the 4th satellite feed.
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I love it!

Thanks so much.
Scott Greczkowski
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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I Care About Detroit - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
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I Wanna Talk About Me - Toby Keith
Bobby
98.6 - Keith
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I'm Easy - Keith Carridine
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It's Easy - Boston
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
dishstaller
That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
TRG
TRG
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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b4pjoe
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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HipKat
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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Foxbat
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
dishstaller
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dishstaller
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Jimbo
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
dishstaller
Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.