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Last reply Mar 24, 2010 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

TIVO to FTA?

A few weeks ago I ran across a TIVO box for sale. Am I correct in the assumpion that these are recording devices? If they are, are they adaptable to FTA? I didn't buy it because I know less about it than I do FTA, which isn't much. I didn't know if it has some kind of controlled access than only the major sat providers offer, or if it somehow might need to be authorized or card-controlled. If it willl work on FTA, would it need to be driven by a PVR-enabled receiver, or can it be installed between a regular FTA receiver and TV like the VCR I have? Any information would be helpful if I ever run across one again. Thanks,
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adm22

Mar 24, 2010

There are also Tivo like devices that are hard to find, that are better than a Tivo since they do not require any subscription and they will work with a FTA or 4DTV sat receiver.

These things are very hard to find. The one model you can sometimes find currently is the Magnavox 2160A- It has a 160GB hard drive, it also has an ATSC SD tuner and a DVD unit that allows you to dub shows from the HD (which can have the unwanted programming material edited out) to a DVD.

I have had a si,milar unit from the same manufactuerer with a Phillips name plate for several years. just bought one of the Magnavox ones for myslef and another for my girlfriend. Git the pair for just under $400 from Southesat Sales you can contact Ron there at 229 803-0757

Mr Tony

Mar 24, 2010

I've got 3 DVD recorder/Hard drives from Radio Shack that are like that adm22. Accurian models
Also have a Poloroid unit like that but it doesnt have the ASTC tuner (the old NTSC one)

Corrado

Mar 24, 2010

I have a Phillips PVR unit with 160 gig HD, DVD recorder and has ASTC tuner. I got mine for $169 on the discount shelf at Sam's Club. It works great.

I never see these machines new anymore. The used ones on ebay sell for more than mine cost new.

B.J.

Mar 24, 2010

adm22 said:
There are also Tivo like devices that are hard to find, that are better than a Tivo since they do not require any subscription and they will work with a FTA or 4DTV sat receiver.

These things are very hard to find. The one model you can sometimes find currently is the Magnavox 2160A- It has a 160GB hard drive, it also has an ATSC SD tuner and a DVD unit that allows you to dub shows from the HD (which can have the unwanted programming material edited out) to a DVD.

I have had a si,milar unit from the same manufactuerer with a Phillips name plate for several years. just bought one of the Magnavox ones for myslef and another for my girlfriend. Git the pair for just under $400 from Southesat Sales you can contact Ron there at 229 803-0757

Shortly after I bought my first TIVO, RCA started selling a TIVO-like device. I think it was a DRS7000. It had a moderately sized HD, and it had better picture quality than the TIVO, and somehow (I can't remember how), it got programming info off air (this was back in the analog days), so it didn't need a subscription. It had SVID and A/V I/O, and component and digital out, and also had a DVD player built in. It all sounded great, but you couldn't upgrade the hard drives, and couldn't hack it to connect to networks, or put in 3rd party software. So even though it worked better than the TIVO for recording, I quickly stopped using it. It's still sitting in my junk pile. Now it's probably 98% useless, since it was analog and SD only, however I guess it could connect to the analog outputs of a SD FTA box.
Anyway I guess this was a bit off topic, but the mention of TIVO like devices reminded me of the thing.

classicsat

Mar 24, 2010

More notes on TiVo: The Linux parts of the operating system are open source. You can even download open source code. However the TiVo application is closed source and proprietary to them, as is any modules relating to Broadcom hardware. The hardware is also closed source, so there is no practical way to use TiVo hardware as a DVR without using TiVo software. Yes, for the pre-change Series ones, the TOS is different and allows manual recording without subscription. I was just making it clear that that isn't general to all TiVos, that post "change" ones basically need a subscription to work. Lifetime can be two things, at least according to some sellers. The first is "Lifetime Basic", which is the no-cost Basic level of service on Toshiba and Pioneer branded DVD combo units. Really, they should not be marketed as such, because it can be confused with real Product Lifetime, which is the lifetime service all TiVos can get (called Lifetime Plus on Toshiba/Pioneers). The Canadian thing was quasi-legal because at the time TiVo wasn't (yet) selling service to Canadians. It became quasi-illegal (as illegal as violating TiVo's TOS would be), in September 2005 when TiVo launched 7.2 software that had Canadian postal code entry and welcomed Canadian subscriptions (and at the same time required one year service commitment).

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 49 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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klang

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:36 PM · posted in TV Shows

Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.

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klang

Jul 28, 2025

I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

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klang

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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harshness

Oct 13, 2026

MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

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MikeD-C05

Sunday at 12:51 PM

harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

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harshness

Sunday at 2:00 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

MikeD-C05

Yesterday at 1:35 PM

harshness said:
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

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osu1991

Yesterday at 1:59 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping

klang

Yesterday at 2:04 PM

I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.

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harshness

Today at 5:36 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes.

That is your right.

I couldn't buy hiding behind the dirty-feet argument.

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 5:32 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

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Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

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Today at 4:42 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Security Now 1101

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jamieh1

Last reply Today at 3:35 PM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

FAST Channels added to DIRECTV Stream/Internet

DIRECTV Stream/Internet added Ch 4105 SportsGrid

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Aug 24, 2026

Now testing:
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Now live:
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BlackHitachi

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 2:54 PM · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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Oct 9, 2026

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Come September (1961)
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Simple, charming. Entire premise is quite silly but Cary Grant carries it across the line in good fashion.

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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.

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Today at 2:42 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

MacBreak Weekly 1047

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 2:37 PM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Oct 8, 2026

PISTONS and THUNDER are finally testing on the stream server. PISTONS is showing the Ion/Scripps Sports promo loop filler that their NHL and WNBA feeds have, THUNDER has a "You are watching Thunder+" slate

The Clippers still haven't officially announced their TV plans beyond 10 simulcasts on KTLA, but the NBA's FAQ for ClipperVision is now live. The CLIPPERS feed is currently showing a loop of their Hawaii preseason game.

The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

So far nothing testing for the Bucks, Magic, Hawks or Hornets.

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KyL416

Thursday at 7:30 PM

KyL416 said:
The Heat still haven't announced their West Palm Beach or Fort Myers affiliates. Since WPLG is streaming the games for free via their app, I doubt we'll be seeing the return of WPLG on stream.

West Palm Beach is getting it on WTCN-CD/43 MNT. Still nothing for Fort Myers

Also, the Thunder's deal for KSBI/52 OKC and KQCW/19 Tulsa will be via a special cable and DIRECTV only feed of those stations. OTA viewers and Dish customers will be limited to 10 games.

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Thanks for the updates on CW norfolk
Hopefully comes to sat soon!!

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Saturday at 8:34 PM

Not seeing 44 (WVBT-DT/44 CW Norfolk ) on my D* app for firestick

KyL416

Saturday at 8:44 PM

It's only available for streaming customers, they still haven't added that batch of CW stations to satellite.

Even if it was, satellite customers still can't stream their CW affiliates via the app, just the Big 4, select PBS stations and some independents (mainly the ones that have full season NHL/NBA rights)

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Today at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
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675 THUNDER
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Bobby

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 1:54 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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I Gotta Stop Following Advice From Reddit

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