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Last reply Apr 26, 2016 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 1000.4 Eastern Arc Setup Help

Just purchased a 1000.4 (eastern arc) to get the new HD channels. I have been trying to lock into 72.7 and have had little success.

On my VIP622 receiver I have run check switch with no cable attached and covered 77 & 61.5 LNBF's with foil. On one try I got 61.5 satellite on LNB that should be 72.7. Most times I can get 61.5 but not 77 or 72.7.

This is not my first Dish install and have rechecked plum on arm and elevation, skew, etc. Got my dish setup data from DishPointer.com. Satellite found is always 61.5. I have also tried using a meter (SF-95L) and it always only finds 61.5.

Could someone please share how they got this new Dish to install correctly?

I spoke with Dish Depot and they say that 1000.4 is very hard to install and does not behave or install like any others. They commeted that even installers are having troubles.

Help and suggestion would greatly be appreciated.

Thank You!

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TheForce

Mar 19, 2010

According to the Dish Tech manual on page 6, it clearly states that each of the three left ports output all three LNB signals simultaneously. Connecting to port 2 to get just 72.7 is not possible. So, the technician tip and trick is to shut down the 77 and 61.5 LNB's ( foil trick)in order to isolate only one sat signal. In other words, you can't just connect a meter to port 2 and think you can get only 72.7 when NOT connected to a DPP44 This is the way the 1000.4 works ( according to the Dish Tech manual)

Additionally, the ports 1 (77); 2 ( 72.7), and 3(61.5) operate as isolated sat signal outputs only when connected to a DPP44 switch. Connecting the switch CHANGES the way the DPP 1000.4 LNB outputs. All this is contained in the DishNetwork Technical manual for DPP systems.

Mike- you have reported some of the best signals I have seen anywhere in the country on a 1000.4. Congratulations! My problem was with TP32 on 61.5. That was my main reason to move to the bigger wing dish.

Additionally, in all configurations the port 1 has to be connected, whether to the external switch DPP44 or to a VIP receiver. In no case can only Port 2 or Port 3 with Port 1 open be used.

After making some phone calls with very experienced techs, its the general consensus that after the check switch is run on an LNB, its a royal pain in the ass to try and repeak it. The check switch actually actives the LNB and it works completely different from that time on. As such, you may very well have bad luck trying to peak in the 1k4 with a reciever powered meter such as yours. You might have a little more luck if you clear out the orbitals in the check switch, but i personally would not try peaking that lnb in. i would call another tech and use their meter. If you can get a hold of a battery powered analog meter like the Channel master you should have more luck. like i said, that is my backup. Peaking out is still a pain though.

So, if you get a self powered meter, tune in on the 3rd port and still cant get them all in its something else. It could be a bent reflector, no line of site, bad LNB (very rare from my experience) . It might just be easier to run across a tech in your neighborhood, pay em 20 or 30 bucks to peak it in and be done with it

Resetting the system is not difficult. The memory is in the receiver. You simply disconnect the entire dish sat cable and run a check switch and get "no connection" on everything. Then reconnect the cable and run check switch a second time. Others have stated this repeatedly plus it is written in the installation manual. Nowhere is it recommended that once an LNB is "activated" you will have trouble repeaking and to just call another tech with a different meter. If you follow the procedure to clear the check switch memory, it is no problem at all. The foil trick simply aids in the isolation of the sat/lnb alignment by eliminating the other LNB's from responding during adjustment using the analog meter. It is an excellent low tech method that will make use of simple analog meters much easier. In my case I left an aluminum cover permanently ( coke can cut in half fits perfectly) over the 61.5LNB to enable the LNB IN port on a 30" 61.5 wing dish for stronger signals.

Edit- Note- I was doing some more research on this mystery of port output and why there seems to be so much confusion among professionals and amateurs (me). Here is what I discovered- When using a Sat Buddy or the Bird Dog digital meters, the LNB assembly switches to DPP44 mode ( even though no DPP44 is used) for tuning ( single output on each of three ports). Once the digital meter is disconnected and the LNB connected to a VIP receiver, it returns to default mode which is the simultaneous output on all three ports. Using an analog meter with receiver supplying power to port 1 keeps the LNB assembly in the default mode. Now all this makes sense. Guys- when a proferssional instal;ler says he connected his professional ( read expensive ) meter to port 2 for 72.7, he gets that 72.7 signal but if you connect your cheapie $19.95 meter with the receiver connected, you will get all three sats on each of the three ports. Simple!

quickh2

Dec 11, 2011

Thanks Mike,

I tried to do proper research before purchase. When I signed up for Dish at home they brought out a "Turbo HD" setup and pointed it to eastern arc.. (Atlanta Area).

I bought an RV and pulled the ViP211K that was feeding my garage/workshop. Then purchased what I thought would be the same dish setup as home. (1000.4 EA).

I did a test with the RV setup at home and dailed in all the birds 61.5, 72.7, and 77 without much difficulty. Now I'm down in the Orlando, FL area and can only hit 61.5..

I've triple-checked everything, tweeked all directions, run check switch unconnected to clear receiver, and 61.5 is all I can see here.

Sooooo, assuming I don't want HD in the RV which Dish setup should I go with that will be the simplest to setup while traveling ? I'm mostly in GA, FL, AL, TN, SC, NC.

Not interestd in dropping the coin for a tailgater or something like that.

GWood

hdflsts2002

Sep 15, 2012

Don Landis said:
According to the Dish Tech manual on page 6, it clearly states that each of the three left ports output all three LNB signals simultaneously. Connecting to port 2 to get just 72.7 is not possible. So, the technician tip and trick is to shut down the 77 and 61.5 LNB's ( foil trick)in order to isolate only one sat signal. In other words, you can't just connect a meter to port 2 and think you can get only 72.7 when NOT connected to a DPP44 This is the way the 1000.4 works ( according to the Dish Tech manual)

Additionally, the ports 1 (77); 2 ( 72.7), and 3(61.5) operate as isolated sat signal outputs only when connected to a DPP44 switch. Connecting the switch CHANGES the way the DPP 1000.4 LNB outputs. All this is contained in the DishNetwork Technical manual for DPP systems.

Mike- you have reported some of the best signals I have seen anywhere in the country on a 1000.4. Congratulations! My problem was with TP32 on 61.5. That was my main reason to move to the bigger wing dish.

Additionally, in all configurations the port 1 has to be connected, whether to the external switch DPP44 or to a VIP receiver. In no case can only Port 2 or Port 3 with Port 1 open be used.

Resetting the system is not difficult. The memory is in the receiver. You simply disconnect the entire dish sat cable and run a check switch and get "no connection" on everything. Then reconnect the cable and run check switch a second time. Others have stated this repeatedly plus it is written in the installation manual. Nowhere is it recommended that once an LNB is "activated" you will have trouble repeaking and to just call another tech with a different meter. If you follow the procedure to clear the check switch memory, it is no problem at all. The foil trick simply aids in the isolation of the sat/lnb alignment by eliminating the other LNB's from responding during adjustment using the analog meter. It is an excellent low tech method that will make use of simple analog meters much easier. In my case I left an aluminum cover permanently ( coke can cut in half fits perfectly) over the 61.5LNB to enable the LNB IN port on a 30" 61.5 wing dish for stronger signals.

Edit- Note- I was doing some more research on this mystery of port output and why there seems to be so much confusion among professionals and amateurs (me). Here is what I discovered- When using a Sat Buddy or the Bird Dog digital meters, the LNB assembly switches to DPP44 mode ( even though no DPP44 is used) for tuning ( single output on each of three ports). Once the digital meter is disconnected and the LNB connected to a VIP receiver, it returns to default mode which is the simultaneous output on all three ports. Using an analog meter with receiver supplying power to port 1 keeps the LNB assembly in the default mode. Now all this makes sense. Guys- when a proferssional instal;ler says he connected his professional ( read expensive ) meter to port 2 for 72.7, he gets that 72.7 signal but if you connect your cheapie $19.95 meter with the receiver connected, you will get all three sats on each of the three ports. Simple!

Don, pretty much everything you say above is valid and good advice. This however "When using a Sat Buddy or the Bird Dog digital meters, the LNB assembly switches to DPP44 mode ( even though no DPP44 is used) for tuning ( single output on each of three ports)." Is not accurate. When I hook up either my SatBuddy or Birdog I can connect to any port and see all three eyes. I can switch through them without ever having to move a cable between ports. The meters send the signals to the switch telling it which bird you care to look at. Pretty much the meters act as a receiver in this respect.

hdflsts2002

Sep 15, 2012

quickh2 said:
Thanks Mike,

I tried to do proper research before purchase. When I signed up for Dish at home they brought out a "Turbo HD" setup and pointed it to eastern arc.. (Atlanta Area).

I bought an RV and pulled the ViP211K that was feeding my garage/workshop. Then purchased what I thought would be the same dish setup as home. (1000.4 EA).

I did a test with the RV setup at home and dailed in all the birds 61.5, 72.7, and 77 without much difficulty. Now I'm down in the Orlando, FL area and can only hit 61.5..

I've triple-checked everything, tweeked all directions, run check switch unconnected to clear receiver, and 61.5 is all I can see here.

Sooooo, assuming I don't want HD in the RV which Dish setup should I go with that will be the simplest to setup while traveling ? I'm mostly in GA, FL, AL, TN, SC, NC.

Not interestd in dropping the coin for a tailgater or something like that.

GWood

The dish you have should work fine for you or you could go with the newer 1000.2. I personally use the 1000.4 in my RV setup and carry both EA and WA LNBs. This way even if there is not LOS on the most appropriate LNB for my location I still have a second shot at LOS. The best advice I can give you is to get yourself a decent meter if you're going to be breaking down and setting up more than a couple times a year. First Strike FS1 is a decent entry meter that will allow you to control the LNB and pick the eye you want to work with. You can also pickup a Birdog at a reasonable price if you keep your eyes open on EBAY, SATBuddy is far and away the best but unless you are doing this for a living, moving around quite frequently or are just an uber geek is probably over kill for you. I can't stress enough how much easier a GOOD meter will make your install. From the time I start till I'm back inside watching TV I can typically have my 1000.4k running in 30 minutes or less and most of that time is verifying LOS getting the tripod plumb and doing the initial azimuth, elevation and skew settings prior to hooking up the meter.

Dave Bee

Apr 24, 2016

Hi, I am having a similar issue, I have a 1000.4 EA dish and lnbf that was working fine for Hopper and Joey. 2 daughters moved back in and I decided to connect their receivers, a VIP 211k and a VIP 722K DVR. after much research I found the proper hookup should be Dish to DPP44 to DPP44. with out to receiver ports on one switch going to duo node, and receiver ports on second switch going to the VIP receivers. I set this up in my attic got everything wired and first Hopper and joey worked but VIPs could not get all the satellites, after 2 days of playing around I got everything working by covering the 77 horn with foil. Decided to clean up the tangled mess in the attic and lost everything on all boxes! went back to step 1 testing every connection with my super buddy 29. With 77 horn still covered I am getting both 72.2 on port 1 and 61.5 on port 2 of both daisy chained switches but now every receiver is giving me message less satellites detected on switch test. the hopper now says no signals at all, the 722 says in details that 72.2 + and - on port 2 and 61.5 + and - on port 3, but when trying to watch tv every channel says no signal. The 211 says it's getting only 72.2 + and - but also says no complete signal loss on all channels. Any idea what's up? PS I have like twenty years of experience with DTV installs and trouble shooting but when I got fired for tearing out my rotator cuff on a job they wouldn't let me reschedule I decided to go to dish.

the mack

Apr 25, 2016

Don Landis said:
According to the Dish Tech manual on page 6, it clearly states that each of the three left ports output all three LNB signals simultaneously. Connecting to port 2 to get just 72.7 is not possible.

You are reading that wrong, port 2 will only output 72.7 when connected to a dish receiver with a cleared switch matrix.
a receiver with a cleared switch matrix can be used to align dish to 72.7 when connected to port 2 of the receiver. Period.
a whole lot of misinformation in this thread confusing the op. download the 1000.4 manual and follow it to the letter......it works.... f the foil trick as it is not needed. you will need a lot of patience as the vip receivers a VERY slow to react to a signal.

When I align my 1000.4 I connect cheap meter to port one and receiver with cleared matrix to port 2. when I get a reading on cheap meter I check receiver for the 72.7 signal. if you settings are correct everything should fall into place provided there are no obstructions and lnb is in god working order

Troch77

Apr 26, 2016

To Dave B

If you have a Superbuddy 29 you shouldn't need to cover any LNBS with foil.

Just make sure you have the updated software on the meter, and pick the proper dish setup.

It also doesn't matter what Input on the LNB you connect to if it's a Dish pro Plus LNB.
It only matters when hooking up the DPP44 and only if you are using less then 3 orbital locations.
If it's Western arc it doesn't matter.
If it's an Eastern arc 2 then port 2 on the LNB is for 72 and Port 3 is 61.5
The 77 isn't used in 99% of the country anymore..
But since you have a 1.4k, all 3 lines should be used to avoid confusion.
And you don't peak the 77 either.
You peak the 72, and then ajust accordingly for the 61.5.

And also to add you can't add a VIP 722 to a Hopper account.
You can add two 211's and that it.

And you don't need a duo node with a single Hopper.
You need one Solo node, and 1 DPP44 .

You should have 3 lines from the 1.4k to the DPP44 , the 2 lines to the solo node, or in your case I guess the duo. Not 3 unless you have 2 Hoppers.
Obviously your Joeys is connected either a tap or on the client port on the node.
That leaves you 2 ports left
One would go to your 211 with the PI, the other would go to the other 211.
And I say 211 because dish doesn't Active VIP DVRs on hopper accounts.

Not sure why you have 2 DPP44s.
And if for some reason you do have a 722, one line with a Separator at the back of the 722 is all that's needed.

Bottom line a Single Hopper ,Joey,and 2 Vips would only require 1 DPP44.
If you had 2 Hoppers then you would need another DPP44.
Because your Node would require 3 wires from the multiswitch.

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MorCowbell

Last reply A moment ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?

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dishstaller

Tuesday at 9:42 PM

I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

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MorCowbell

Yesterday at 10:11 AM

Methinks you are wrong, Dishstaller - at least for what I see now..
I so wish that functionality was available ...

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n0qcu

Yesterday at 10:41 AM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:11 AM

n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.

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MorCowbell

Today at 10:06 AM

You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."

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dennispap

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dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I remember that also on my 722.

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Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

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since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

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I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes.

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I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

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Oct 23, 2026

Tom Speer said:
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.

I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.

robjlevin

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Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.

Redbullsnation

Today at 2:43 PM

I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

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Today at 2:51 PM

Redbullsnation said:
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

It is not adaptive. HDR is either always on or off. No in between. However with my Gemini on satellite everything looks much better with HDR on.

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jamieh1

Oct 21, 2026

Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

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KyL416

Oct 21, 2026

jamieh1 said:
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.

Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

jamieh1 said:
Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.

Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

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KyL416

Oct 23, 2026

KyL416 said:
The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.

WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-...st-partnership-with-wink-in-southwest-florida

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doctor J

Yesterday at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Nov 04 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Nov 04 2026 vs Oct 28 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13
Net 15 TID 17 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D15@103ca, TPN 18

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	266	2	1449
SD mpeg4	144		194
SD mpeg2	433	-1
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	56	18

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
Reshuffle setup ?
Weekly Analysis soon
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doctor J

Yesterday at 7:23 AM

Weekly Analysis for 11/04/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261104.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Yesterday at 7:24 AM

Prep for More TPN swaps

NewsMix -> ElectionHQ

MLBEI -> NBALP in the 740s

No sign of the additional CW affiliates that were added to stream a few weeks ago

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KyL416

Today at 2:08 PM

KyL416 said:
WINK-D3 (Weather) for Fort Myers

WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server

Redbullsnation

Today at 2:29 PM

KyL416 said:
WINK-D3 Fort Myers is testing on the stream server

Could be for the Heat since they have the rights to that.

Its always a surprise to see DTV carry subchannels...

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed

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Bruce

Today at 9:59 AM

SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

After trying satellites and small cells, Elon Musk's SpaceX is to build a terrestrial mobile network across tens of thousands of sites with Qualcomm.

www.lightreading.com

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Bruce

Today at 11:22 AM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

If Musk really wants to buy Boost, he might get a great price once Dish Wireless is out of Chapter 11.

Boost just lost 182,000 subs in the 3rd quarter-

https://www.fierce-network.com/wireless/echostar-loses-182k-wireless-customers-q3

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man00

Today at 12:15 PM

Is Dish like Iran in one way...they both will totally collapse by end of week

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Foxbat

Today at 12:16 PM

Other than the price, my experience with Boost is not that different than what I experienced with my years with Cricket. I will be curious to see what happens if SpaceX takes the reins.

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