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Last reply Dec 16, 2004 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

New Dish 322 Problem not found in forums???

I've been reading these forums for quite some time and never had a reason to post up until now so here goes, and by the way I am a happy camper with Dish Network and have no intention of switching to DirectTV. I've been with Dish Network since late 1997 with a 4000/1000 combination until last month I bought a 322. Yes I know that the 322 is for new customers only but to make a long story short, Customer Service Rep made an error, I bought a new 322 on Ebay, and Dish made their reps mistake good so my 322 is working. I love everything about it but found a couple of glitches in it that are related and am wondering if anyone else that has a 322 has noticed. First off, I am in SE Texas and don't qualify for local channels since I receive quality channels on broadcast band local Beaumont Tx and Lake Charles La. Also closest channels IF I qualified for local really wouldn't be local anyway (Houston 110 miles). So I have an outside antenna that plugs into the back of the receiver and as the satellite is switched off, will pick up my locals with a good picture on TV1 but not on TV2. I have the receiver output on Ch 60 and even when the satellite for TV2 is off, the picture isn't good at all. The manual says on Page 28, next to last paragraph, "For remote TVs receiving programming from Ch 21-69 Out, the off-air antenna needs to be connected to your TV distribution equipment" and I say.....huh........TV distribution equipment. My old 4000 just had an antenna in just like this 322 does and it put out the broadcast signal through the receiver to the tv with no problem as does TV1, but the problem is TV2. Does anyone know what this means 'TV distribution equipment'? I called Dish Network tech personel had no idea what it meant and she ask someone that had been there for 2 years. They told me to go to Radio Shack and they might be able to help me, but they didn't. Help? I mentioned other glitches that were similar, here is the other problem. If I set the VCR to record a local network broadcast being picked up by my outside antenna when I wasn't going to be home, when I checked the VCR the picture was fuzzy and I found that the Dish Logo was floating around on the TV with the satellite off. I called Dish and the rep told me that there has been several complaints about this.....that it comes on after 4 hours. She actually said it is a screensaver that is like one on a computer set for 4 hours. She told me that if I was going to record broadcast programming, I needed to set the satellite receiver to come on before maybe for a minute and go off to get rid of the screensaver, then the broadcast program to be recorded and that maybe software will take care of this glitch in the future. These are two problems that I can live with and modify my viewing habits but would like to know if someone has run across this. I've been reading these forums for quite a long time and have not run across this specifically. Thanks for any help. Mike

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TuxCoder

Dec 10, 2004

Ah, yes them elaborations sure helped.

So you have the TV1 output going into your VCR, then the VCR's output going into the TV? If so, that's what caused your problem, I believe. It sounds like you need to use the TV/Video or TV/Sat button, whatever it's called, that's on your 322 remote. The receiver might need to be "on" (not logo screensaver) in order for you to do that. But what you're looking for is to NOT see either the logo screensaver or the channel your 322 is tuned to. You DO need to see your off-air channels as you change channel numbers on the actual TV or VCR.

So in other words, when you were looking at the screensaver or the satellite channel on the 322, your VCR was on Ch. 3 and your TV was most likely on Ch. 3 too (or Ch. 4). After you hit that one button on the 322 remote, your TV should show snow (or a maybe solid blue screen), or perhaps a local channel if your area has a local Ch. 3. But anyways, now change the VCR to your desired channel you wish to record and your TV should show it clearer.

If it still doesn't come in clearer, and you know your location can receive the channel much clearer, maybe you could reply with info on your exact wiring between the 322, VCR, and TV.

MDB in SE La

Dec 10, 2004

OK now we're both hicks now, ha...........

With the 4000 I had sat and outside antenna going to sat rec input, sat out to vcr in, vcr out went to TV. Never had any problems. CBS in Beaumont is Ch 6 so now, sat and outside antenna going to sat rec input, sat out still to vcr in, vcr out going to TV1. Set VCR to record 8pm tonight and the sat to TV1 turned off before 4pm and the sat puts out a signal on ch3 while the vcr records ch 6 (CBS) and it's fuzzy. That's where the screensaver is coming from according to the Dish Tech Rep. Huh.

Never would I have believed that if anyone else would have told me either. The tech rep said it was a glitch and that Dish would be working because she herself has had several complaints exactly like mine. I was hopeing that someone had ever heard of this and maybe figured out a solution before Dish does.

This problem isn't related or causing the problem on TV2 but causes the picture to be the same fuzziness......(is that a word) but I understand what I'm going to have to do to fix the picture clarity on TV2 with a super home node or a good combiner, not sure that Radio Shack has those but if not I'll check online, shouldn't have any problem finding. Thanks for your help.

TuxCoder

Dec 10, 2004

Right, whether the receiver is on or off, it's still putting a signal on Ch. 3 (and Ch. 60 or whatever TV2 is set on). The only way to kill that signal, and only on TV1, without killing the power to the 322 is to use the TV/VIDEO button. (I'm at home now so I know the exact name of the button

). I'm not familiar with the 4000 but it sounds like it killed the Ch. 3 signal when the receiver was powered "off" (really put in a standby mode).

Sounds like you're on your way though.

oljim

Dec 11, 2004

No reason to hook ant to 322, hook it to VCR. 322 should be going to VCR and TV Via a/v cable. If TV does not have A/V input you need a new one

MDB in SE La

Dec 16, 2004

that's an interesting way to do it, oljim. I'm not home right now, in another city working but I'll be home Fri and try that. Thanks for the help. MDB

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Scott Greczkowski

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WHEcmortfK0?feature=share

dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

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