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Ira Lacher

Last reply Mar 29, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

So I'm Ready to Order DISH . . .

. . . I walk into the local installer I've sussed out, and I've done all the homework, ascertained a clear line of sight, know what receivers and programming I want, even have a ClubDish referral number, and I'm all set to switch from D* when I see HD Theater playing on the installer's 46-inch Samsung LED, and I notice . . .

The picture is soft, with jaggies around the edges of objects.

I ask the installer to switch to a few other channels, and I notice they're all like that. Much worse than the PQ I get on D*, even in channels broadcasting in 720.

So I ask him, is this the PQ I can expect with DISH? What about this "HD Lite" I keep hearing about?

And he says, "There's practically no difference that you can detect."

Which immediately brought to mind Groucho Marx's famous quote: "Who are you going to believe -- me, or the evidence of your own two eyes?" I did not order DISH at that time.

So, was it just this particular installer's setup, or is DISH's PQ really that inferior? And it is just a few channels or all of them?

DISH would be far more cost-effective, but not if the picture is that much worse. What are y'all's experiences?

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am7crew

Mar 29, 2010

Ill put it to you this way, I have borth D* and E* and The PQ is different but not enough that I would let it effect where I go. If I have D*'s PQ a 10 in rating I give E* a 9. Its barely barely noticeable, it was probably his TV as I have a LED in a extra bedroom that shows super motion blur on HD channels (on both D* and E*)

skyviewmark

Mar 29, 2010

am7crew said:
Ill put it to you this way, I have borth D* and E* and The PQ is different but not enough that I would let it effect where I go. If I have D*'s PQ a 10 in rating I give E* a 9. Its barely barely noticeable, it was probably his TV as I have a LED in a extra bedroom that shows super motion blur on HD channels (on both D* and E*)

I thnk it's more like if DirecTV PQ were 1000 dish would be a 990. I have both in my home and while DirecTV picture is a little better, I still don't watch it often due to the crappy equipment DirecTV has.

stonecold

Mar 29, 2010

skyviewmark said:
I thnk it's more like if DirecTV PQ were 1000 dish would be a 990. I have both in my home and while DirecTV picture is a little better, I still don't watch it often due to the crappy equipment DirecTV has.

I dont know about that.

I put it a different way.

I would say about 85% of the time you wont notice any difference . thought I noticed on some channels Dish lays on the HD Lite pretty heave and there is a noticeable difference.

HD Theater is one of those channels / so is Universal HD and HDNet and HDnet movies I noticed excessive artifacting, and heavy blur.

So it up to you I would find a friend who had Dish HD or another retailer even radioshack I dont know I would never judge Dish networks PQ based on one HD set that I saw. So find others and if it bad to you dont switch it theothers look good well I say hate to see you leave but if your that dead set of switching good luck.

Hemi 6.1

Mar 29, 2010

stonecold said:
I dont know about that.

I put it a different way.

I would say about 85% of the time you wont notice any difference . thought I noticed on some channels Dish lays on the HD Lite pretty heave and there is a noticeable difference.

HD Theater is one of those channels / so is Universal HD and HDNet and HDnet movies I noticed excessive artifacting, and heavy blur.

.

What do you have stone, 722,622?

JWKessler

Mar 29, 2010

I switched from cable to Dish about three months ago. The PQ with cable was excellent, though the service was unreliable. I have a basement home theater with a 104" projection screen so I can be picky and I can easily see poor HD.

I find Dish to be very close to cable to the point where I would not be able to tell one from the other.

I suspect your dealer's display was set up poorly. For example you can adjust "sharpness" on most sets. Set it too low and everything looks a tad soft. Set it too high and you will see strange artifacts and the like in the picture.

In any case, the best PQ I ever had was back in the early days when I was using a big C-Band system with a Digicypher HD box. HD Theater was stunning with that set up. Sadly, that was one of perhaps four HD channels available on that system.

Rangers484

Mar 29, 2010

This site has a wealth of info on DISH picture quality, comparisons to Direct, OTA, FIOS, etc....

My take on D* vs E* is that those who currently have both seem to think it is too close to call or give D* a barely perceptible edge.

I have OTA HD and E* HD and in my eyes, the quality is comparable with no clear, discernible edge to OTA over E*.

Ira Lacher

Mar 29, 2010

Thanks for all the feedback on this!

stonecold

Mar 29, 2010

Hemi 6.1 said:
What do you have stone, 722,622?

2 722 now retired.

stonecold

Mar 29, 2010

fkent484 said:
This site has a wealth of info on DISH picture quality, comparisons to Direct, OTA, FIOS, etc....

My take on D* vs E* is that those who currently have both seem to think it is too close to call or give D* a barely perceptible edge.

I have OTA HD and E* HD and in my eyes, the quality is comparable with no clear, discernible edge to OTA over E*.

Tampa Locals Dish had way over compressed. at the time I was still recieving them . I heard form friends they got better but still cant beat the OTA setups they have.

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cp2k said:
Honestly, I would rather see an expanded bracketed playoff system than the current Conference Championship Game + playoff model we're using right now. The Conference Championships essentially allow two teams to beat up on each other, and then both typically are going to end up in the playoffs anyway unless it is one of the weaker or smaller conferences. Let them play it out on the field against others.

Until the Big Ten changed thier alignment, (a couple years ago) ... it was not like that at all, the East side won most years the west side represented the Big Ten, but they may have been the team with the 4th best record ...
They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

The biggest issue with the Conference Now is the Number of TEAMS .... WAY to Many.
It would take 2-3 YEARS to do a round robin where everyone would play one another ... How do you know how good a team is when teams don't play the same teams ?

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They finally changed that, to a single conference ... but yes, in most cases, both teams will get in ... now, its a certain both will get in ...

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Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is.

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