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Grandpa J
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I have downloaded and read the 921 manaul but I still want to be sure I understand everything befoe puchasing so I am imposing on the goopd people here for answers

1- I understand that the 921 can only output either HD or SD at one time, but can the 921 record HD or SD using one tuner while you watch HD or SD using 1 or the other 2 tuners in the machine.

2- Does the 921 work like my 811 - does it automatically change the output between HD & SD or does it work like the old 6000 were you needed to manually press a button to change between HD & SD

3- Are the HD outputs (component in my case) always active/on like the 811 or are they only active when HD is been used.

4- If the HD component output is always active and the output is set to 1080, if you are using the component output to watch SD does the 921 work like the 811 and automatically change the aspect ratio e.g strench to fill a 16:9 screen while still sending a picture over the non HD outputs.

5- Does the $5 DVR fee apply to all package plans? I have the 120 package plus 2 movie and HD packages.

6- Given all Dish equipment tend to have problem, has the latest software update -
a- Fixed the OTA timer problem(s).
b- Are the reboot & BSOD problems better
c- In general is the reliability of the 921 improved
d- I note that people had problems with OTA channels, has it gotten better

Thanks in advance
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B
1. Records either HD or SD regardless of what you are viewing.
2. DVI/Component OR s-video/composite/RF except in safe mode.
3. The output is up-res or down-res to match what you select: 1080i, 720p. 480p, 480i, no need to change anything. You do have to select HD or SD to activate either HD or SD outputs.
4. No ouput at all from non HD ouputs, you select the stretch.
5. DVR fee applies to all except AEP.
6. The OTA is pretty darn good, it's getting better. There stil is no OTA guide, though, unless you subscribe to the same locals that you get OTA.

I have no problems with OTA, it's a darn nice machine but still not perfect. E*, on the other hand, gave us the shaft on the OTA guide so far.
amx
amx
u sure there is no OTA guide. I get OTA guide on the 811 and i dont have the local subscribed channels anymore. I think you should get a OTA guide for some locals atleeast on 921.
SimpleSimon
AMX: This difference is a point of major grief for the 921 user base. E* is shafting us AGAIN. :mad:
Grandpa J
Thanks bbriggs

While I really what the 941 HD recorder because of the way my whole system is set the output switching is a problem (same as I had with 6000) I was hoping I read the manual incorrectly but it seems not to be the case.

May be best to go with a OTA DVR only (LG 3410A or Sony) now and wait for 942 / MPEG 4 to come out.

Thank you again everyone.
J
You forgot about the $6/mo OTA guide data fee. The latest software requires you to subscribe to locals in order to get even a sub-standard form of guide data.

As far as stability goes, I think it is actually LESS stable than before. I'm finding that I'm rebooting a lot more often than with L189. What happens is that I loose the ability to do things with the remote, such as stretch the picture, or even bring up the DVR menu. When this happens, I have to reboot to fix it.

Don't wait for a 942. With Dish's track record, do you think they will be any better off than the 921 people? I doubt it. I suspect they will be even more screwed than we 921 people are. It isn't going to have MPEG-4, and it will be useless less than a year after it was released.

Right now, I would say, don't buy any Dish equipment, try the HDTivo from DirecTV.

But, hey, I will admit I am biased right now. Dish has got me so upset that I want to divert as many as possible from buying their stuff. They wasted $1000 in capitol, and $600 in subscription fees this past year, and I would like to see them loose at least that much themselves from lost sales. No offense to Scott and Claude that helped me get my 921 a year ago, they are great people.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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arlo
A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
dishstaller
That's all I got.
That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
TRG
TRG
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Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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b4pjoe
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
dishstaller
Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.