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Last reply May 8, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Volume Leveling Difference?

So I have the volume leveling feature enabled on my 922, but I don't see any difference from my 622. The commercials are still WAY louder than the main programs.

Anyone else experiencing this, or anyone actually hearing a difference?

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bforce

Apr 21, 2010

I don't notice any difference at all, a real bummer as some commercials are really loud.

sA :: Shaggy

Apr 22, 2010

bforce said:
I don't notice any difference at all, a real bummer as some commercials are really loud.

Yea like dish's lol.

They really want to get your attention. lol

DustoMan

May 3, 2010

I'm kinda wondering if the last software update tweaked the Volume Leveling a bit. It seems as if it's not working as well for me as it was a couple days ago.

bforce

May 3, 2010

sA :: Shaggy said:
Yea like dish's lol.

They really want to get your attention. lol

lol.....yes, especially Dish commercials. They could wake up the dead...

chicagonettech

May 8, 2010

DustoMan said:
I'm kinda wondering if the last software update tweaked the Volume Leveling a bit. It seems as if it's not working as well for me as it was a couple days ago.

There's another inherent problem with Dish's "volume leveling software". It levels out the dynamic range deliberately built into the motion picture soundtrack.

In metered testing with four different feeds on HBO HD - same movie done a minimum of two times - with the volume leveling software enabled, the dynamic range deliberately created by the sound engineer is now compressed by the new volume leveling software when that software is enabled.

While there may be some who desire the effect of a single volume level, it is not what the sound engineers had in mind when the soundtrack of the motion picture was mixed, and, in my humble opinion, constitutes an illegal edit of the motion picture.

Some of us have paid a great deal of money for, and spent a lot of time properly balancing our sound equipment to our environments so we can both view and hear motion pictures as they were intended by the director, cinematographer, and sound engineers to be seen and heard. To have Dish Network introduce a product meant to "normalize" commercial content audio levels, which wrecks havoc with motion picture soundtracks, is a truly undesirable side-effect.

Please feel free to attack, but we watch so little content with commercials that I have disabled the sound leveling software on all receivers.

Unfortunately, we must pay for the more than 200 channels with commercials so we can watch the premium channels and the only four (4) channels left on satellite and cable which do not yet have commercial content. What a sad statement on the television industry in general.

DustoMan

May 8, 2010

chicagonettech said:
There's another inherent problem with Dish's "volume leveling software". It levels out the dynamic range deliberately built into the motion picture soundtrack.

In metered testing with four different feeds on HBO HD - same movie done a minimum of two times - with the volume leveling software enabled, the dynamic range deliberately created by the sound engineer is now compressed by the new volume leveling software when that software is enabled.

While there may be some who desire the effect of a single volume level, it is not what the sound engineers had in mind when the soundtrack of the motion picture was mixed, and, in my humble opinion, constitutes an illegal edit of the motion picture.

Some of us have paid a great deal of money for, and spent a lot of time properly balancing our sound equipment to our environments so we can both view and hear motion pictures as they were intended by the director, cinematographer, and sound engineers to be seen and heard. To have Dish Network introduce a product meant to "normalize" commercial content audio levels, which wrecks havoc with motion picture soundtracks, is a truly undesirable side-effect.

Please feel free to attack, but we watch so little content with commercials that I have disabled the sound leveling software on all receivers.

Unfortunately, we must pay for the more than 200 channels with commercials so we can watch the premium channels and the only four (4) channels left on satellite and cable which do not yet have commercial content. What a sad statement on the television industry in general.

I'm not going to attack. I think that's a totally valid argument against Volume Leveling. In your use case where you primarly watch premium movie content, I would do the exact same thing. Since I too feel that movies should be played back unedited and unmodified from how the director wanted his/her audience to experience the film... audio and video.

My wife and I personally, who use the DISH to watch everyday TV programming and pay for 250 channels of programming, want to have the volume leveled because there will be cases where we will be talking during a commercial break when watching live TV and it will be so loud that it is a disruption where we have to stop what we are doing and dive for the remote to either hit the mute button until the show resumes or turn it down. My wife also has very sensitive hearing and the drastic volume difference does really distract her even more then me. Now when I watch movies on our Blu-Ray player.. I don't want anything getting inbetween me and the movie experience which is why I go out of my way to make sure TruHD is selected and make sure my display is showing the video correctly because I too want that experience that you want out of watching movies on premium channels.

But I don't agree with how you speculate that Volume Leveling could be somehow construed into an "illegal edit" of the movie. Two reasons... 1. It's done at the reciever level. The feed that DISH sends to the subscriber's box is an "unaltered" feed of the content they provide. (I say "unaltered" in quotes since really it's compressed at their end in order to be sent over their service. That's going to introduce some change to the audio/video just due to the nature of the compression technology used.) 2. It's something that the user can disable if they so choose therefore restoring the programming to how a subscriber without a reciever with volume leveling will experence the content. Yes, it's not by default, but a savvy viewer such as yourself will know it's there and it can be disabled. Less savvy viewers which would be more likely the ones that would also complain about the volume differences in commercials would not know about the setting and would instead call Dish to complain and then have to be told about the feature. Which would then lead to them asking a. Why that wasn't on in the first place? b. why weren't they told about it? and c I wouldn't of had to call support and DISH could be helping someone else with a more pressing issues.

Because really, the 922 wasn't marketed as a "Volume Normalizing" receiver. It's being marketed as a "place-shifting" receiver. You won't find anything on the 922 pages or reference materials talking at all about the "Volume Leveling" feature. The only reason why we know about it was because of a Technical Chat back in December I think.

Sorry for the long rant, but that's just how I feel. Again, not attacking you at all... I just don't agree with everything you say. Just some of it.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 9:57 PM

Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.

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In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.

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brittanygarden said:
Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks.

I have the dual tuner OTA adapter currently connected, but I have 2 of the single tuner OTA adapters that I can quickly connect - neither is seen by my H3.

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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

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rvvaquero said:
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.

Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.

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Yespage said:
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.

Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.

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Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.

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DEATH TO NEXGEN!

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primestar31

Wednesday at 7:29 PM

navychop said:
DEATH TO NEXGEN!

It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

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navychop

Wednesday at 10:37 PM

I truly hope you are right.

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Mister B

Thursday at 7:43 AM

What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

navychop

Thursday at 4:31 PM

Mister B said:
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.

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navychop

Thursday at 4:31 PM

Mister B said:
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 5:37 PM

primestar31 said:
It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.

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It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.

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Today at 8:35 AM

I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.

harshness

Today at 10:10 AM

Jimbo said:
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.

Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.

dishstaller

Today at 10:41 AM

dishdude said:
Very rarely listen to FM any more

That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.

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Jimbo

Today at 11:03 AM

dishstaller said:
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.

Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?

dishstaller

Today at 12:29 PM

Jimbo said:
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?

No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.

slow_poke_pete

Today at 5:35 PM

Haven't listened AM or FM in years

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Last reply Today at 4:58 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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Strega

Friday at 10:01 PM

Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Friday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Mister B

Saturday at 7:35 AM

Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 10:40 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

can't forget the little blue m&m's

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charlesrshell

Yesterday at 11:23 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's

That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 8:12 PM

Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:01 PM

telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.

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telstar_1

Today at 12:08 AM

But how is it reusable if it's disposable

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:09 AM

charlesrshell said:
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh

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Almighty1

Today at 4:04 PM

telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.

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Today at 4:58 PM

ment to 20 yrs dam phone

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