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racerx-99

Last reply May 8, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Auto-delete due to "Max Reached"?

Ok, I'm admittedly a Dish newbie, my history is with a Tivo Series 2 that I've had for years. I have a brand new 722K (with an OTA module installed), that I've had for about 2 days, so I'm still getting up to speed. It's hooked up to my internet through Dish's nifty new Dishcom powerline networking modules (which the tech setup on install). He also injected in the remote signals as well, as they weren't strong enough by themselves to reach from the other rooms. There's a whole bunch of signal combining going on in my setup!

I set up about 28 timers (mostly) and Dish Passes to be equivalent to the season passes on my old S2 Tivo. I set most of them up through Remote Access, since it was easier to type all the titles that way. Most of them are for "new episodes" only.

2 strange behaviors occurred after setup:

- Most of the 1st showing for each timer was *skipped* because it was supposedly a duplicate. Even though those episodes were clearly on their *original air date and time*, and this was a *brand new* 722. I manually restored each initial episode, and subsequent episodes seem to be fine AFAICT, but I'm naturally suspicious.

- Twice now, a show has recorded, and then auto-deleted due to "Max Reached" (as shown in History), when it was nowhere near the max episodes I set for the timer. For example, the Colbert Report recorded last night at 11:30-12:00 as it should, and it was the *first* episode of that show to record. I have the timer set for "New Episodes" with "Max Recordings" set to 10. At 12 pm (12 hours later) it auto-deleted with a message of "Max reached" WTF!?

Can anyone shed any light? Am I misunderstanding something?

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lakebum431

May 5, 2010

I'm not sure what is going on with your specific question as the max should work. But coming from a Tivo something that you should know is that a Dish Pass is not the same thing as a Season Pass that you are used to. The Dish Pass only looks on the one channel you set it on. I personally don't use the Dish Pass for any of my timers. And I'm hard pressed to think of any time that one is the best option.

KKlare

May 6, 2010

While there is a limit of 96 timers of any kind, dish pass or fixed day/date, there is also a limit on the total number of shows in this weeks queue. The number is like 250 or 500, examine it in Menu+7 or DVR thrice. It is easy with passes of frequently repeated shows to exceed that limit and get a max-shows-exceed message. Certainly before the disk is filled or even the timer list. Be specific for the shows you want and limiting it to channel or HD etc., where applicable, can help.
BTW, it is possible to exceed the 96 timers with Dish Remote Access but come the daily reset it will be truncated to 96, now.
-Ken

racerx-99

May 6, 2010

KKlare said:
While there is a limit of 96 timers of any kind, dish pass or fixed day/date, there is also a limit on the total number of shows in this weeks queue. The number is like 250 or 500, examine it in Menu+7 or DVR thrice. It is easy with passes of frequently repeated shows to exceed that limit and get a max-shows-exceed message. Certainly before the disk is filled or even the timer list. Be specific for the shows you want and limiting it to channel or HD etc., where applicable, can help.
BTW, it is possible to exceed the 96 timers with Dish Remote Access but come the daily reset it will be truncated to 96, now.
-Ken

Hmm, that woud prevent it from *recording*, not cause it to be deleted, right? Also, I've checked and there are only 89 scheduled recording right now, with 27 timers, no conflicts and 95 skipped (duplicates or "not a new episode").

But that's a good heads up, I'll make sure to limit those dish passes down to a specific channel.

slick1ru2

May 6, 2010

lakebum431 said:
I'm not sure what is going on with your specific question as the max should work. But coming from a Tivo something that you should know is that a Dish Pass is not the same thing as a Season Pass that you are used to. The Dish Pass only looks on the one channel you set it on. I personally don't use the Dish Pass for any of my timers. And I'm hard pressed to think of any time that one is the best option.

I use Dish Pass only a couple of times too. Like when SyFy and History were going to both have a same titled show on at the same time, UFO Hunters. And if I know a show will eventually come on a certain channel and I missed it.

DishSubLA

May 7, 2010

racerx-99 said:
Hmm, that woud prevent it from *recording*, not cause it to be deleted, right? Also, I've checked and there are only 89 scheduled recording right now, with 27 timers, no conflicts and 95 skipped (duplicates or "not a new episode").

But that's a good heads up, I'll make sure to limit those dish passes down to a specific channel.

Make certain you view your Events list (timers scheduled to record) on the Daily Schedule screen in the SHOW SKIPPED mode to see the REAL number of event in the memory.

However, you are correct, this would only prevent the event from being recorded until the time passes for an event in memory, so if it is the recording being deleted from your DVR list, then that is another problem.

If all is as it should be, you should call Dish Tech support and you may have to have it RMA'd.

DishSubLA

May 7, 2010

slick1ru2 said:
I use Dish Pass only a couple of times too. Like when SyFy and History were going to both have a same titled show on at the same time, UFO Hunters. And if I know a show will eventually come on a certain channel and I missed it.

Oh, yes I have a " UFO " DishPass, myself, dare I miss any show having to do with UFO's in the INFO portion.

KKlare

May 7, 2010

Yes, that "370" or however many events it is for the (press DVR 3 times or Menu+7) 8-day event list includes the "skipped" ones. So it is not hard to exceed that for shows with a lot of repeats and get a message. But I'm not trying to find out, thanks. I would hate to lose some timers/events because I did try.

I just wish it would keep my changes to event timers. It does until the next "nightly" update. It keeps them when you look at the event but the value in the list reverts to the original description and that is used despite the changes still being there.
-Ken

racerx-99

May 7, 2010

DishSubLA said:
Make certain you view your Events list (timers scheduled to record) on the Daily Schedule screen in the SHOW SKIPPED mode to see the REAL number of event in the memory.

However, you are correct, this would only prevent the event from being recorded until the time passes for an event in memory, so if it is the recording being deleted from your DVR list, then that is another problem.

If all is as it should be, you should call Dish Tech support and you may have to have it RMA'd.

Thanks, that's where I think I'm going to end up. I called Dish support 3 times last night and the last call ended up going towards an onsite tech visit and replacement (since it's only 3 days old). However, the 3rd call got disconnected AGAIN (all 3 calls ended up with me either being disconnected or sent back to the opening menu at some point), and the CSR *never* called me back, so I suppose I will have to do the exercise all over again.

At this point I've set all timers to "#" max recorded, and protected all of them except for the 3 or 4 that are basically rerun "fluff" that my wife likes to have just for distraction purposes. We'll see if that helps.

DishSubLA

May 8, 2010

For what it is worth, for the first time, last night I went to set a new timer using the guide and I noticed that at the bottom it was pre-set to "20 Maximum Recorded Events for this Timer," meaning it was PRE-set to erase my recordings (unprotected, it should be) at the 20th recording. I have always set my timers at "#" meaning no maximum. Somehow something (a software download?) altered my system settings. I suppose I will have to change the 20 to # and set it as default all over again.

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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

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rvvaquero said:
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.

Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.

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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.

Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.

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Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

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DEATH TO NEXGEN!

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primestar31

Wednesday at 7:29 PM

navychop said:
DEATH TO NEXGEN!

It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

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Wednesday at 10:37 PM

I truly hope you are right.

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Mister B

Thursday at 7:43 AM

What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

navychop

Thursday at 4:31 PM

Mister B said:
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.

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navychop

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Mister B said:
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.

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Today at 5:37 PM

primestar31 said:
It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.

WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.

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It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.

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I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
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Jimbo said:
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.

Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.

dishstaller

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Very rarely listen to FM any more

That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.

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Jimbo

Today at 11:03 AM

dishstaller said:
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.

Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?

dishstaller

Today at 12:29 PM

Jimbo said:
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?

No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.

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Haven't listened AM or FM in years

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All DMA's now Western Arc

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Friday at 10:01 PM

Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Friday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Saturday at 7:35 AM

Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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Yesterday at 10:40 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

can't forget the little blue m&m's

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charlesrshell

Yesterday at 11:23 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's

That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 8:12 PM

Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:01 PM

telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.

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telstar_1

Today at 12:08 AM

But how is it reusable if it's disposable

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:09 AM

charlesrshell said:
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh

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Almighty1

Today at 4:04 PM

telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.

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Today at 4:58 PM

ment to 20 yrs dam phone

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