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Hi all. Predictably I lost my 129 sat. LOS as the leaves came out. When I connected my trusty $20 "Satellite Finder" SS meter into that circuit, it blipped audibly once as I first connected it and barely moved the needle after that even at the highest gain setting. But the dial light in the meter was illuminated. I noticed that the meter did not illuminate until both LNB and REC connections were made.

I'll need to do some more tree trimming to mitigate. Add the cost of that to the $300 I already spent last year at about this same time when my 129 wing was first installed. What some of us do for our HD viewing pleasure!

In the meantime I thought I'd reconnect my 61.5 wing which was always reliable before it was obviated by the 129 setup. Both the 61.5 and 129 wings use the same single cable down to my switch, only 1 at a time of course. So I connected the meter in that circuit to see what SS I was getting...and...nada. Zip, zilch, nein, nothing! The dial light didn't even illuminate. I have a DP Dual in that arm (p/n 151019) and tried both sides with exactly the same result, and down at the reveiver set-up screen I was getting -0- signal strength. I reconnected the meter back into the 129 circuit and it again illuminated the dial and gave the blip and minimal reading, so I don't think there's anything wrong with the meter. What does the non-illuminated meter in the 61.5 connection tell me?

Back in the house I tested the short cable that runs into the 61.5 LNB and it had continuity in both the center conductor and shield, and no short. There is no visible indication of damager or corrosion to any of the F connectors. I scared a couple of cold, tired wasps out of the LNB arm but that was about it.

Any suggestions? Can I talk Dish into sending another DP Dual (I have DHPP) or should I just pony-up for one myself? (There's probably no sense in a truck roll at this point.)

TIA and BRgds...
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boba
A guess is no voltage to the meter when connected to 61.5. Under DHPP a Truck roll should be $15 how much would a LNB cost?
B
Tks boba. Interesting that the voltage is coming from the receiver, but that in at least the 129 connection both the LNB and receiver have to be connected before the meter will illuminate, like the meter is getting it's power back through the LNB connection. I guess you are confirming that. So I have to think that alone indicates a fatal failure of the DP Dual, though I was surprised both sides would be out.

Does anyone have some related experience?

I was hoping Dish would just send me a "free" replacement LNB in exchange for the one I have since I'm on DHPP. On several occasions they have replaced remotes with no additional charge, and I didn't even have to send the old ones back, and I once got a "free" receiver swap. But I'm hearing the DHPP rules / fees have changed recently. A call to tech support will sort it all out. A DishPro Single (all I would need) is $35 at DishStore. A $15 truck roll to solve the problem costs me way more than that unless it can be scheduled for sure to be on a weekend...
R
Depending on what part of Central PA you are in, and Eastern Arc upgrade may be your best bet.
B
I talked to Dish Tech Support on Sat. They're sending me a DP Dual at no additional charge. I'll pop that in as soon as it arrives (and the rain stops!) to see if it solves the current dilemma with 61.5. If I get lucky here I'll simply return the defective unit per their request. If that doesn't solve the problem, then I'm probably just going to work on the tree situation to restore 129 with a higher priority. It doesn't make much sense to send a technician at this point. (TS confirmed that would cost me $15 w/ DHPP.)

As far as I can tell my HD LiLs (Johnstown/Altoona DMA) are only on the 129 sat. EA would solve the problem with all the other channels I'm missing but not those LiLs. I also still have a 301 receiver in my mix that would have to be replaced if I go to EA, but that's no big deal.

I'll save the truck roll until I'm ready to explore the EA possibility. First I need to determine I have LOS to the 72.7 and 77 sats. I might have to move my dish location, and if I'm switching to EA then I want to have all the prep work done before the tech arrives: mounts placed and cables run, etc.

BTW - That exchange with Dish TS on Sat. was a delight! Quick and accurate information from both representatives with whom I interacted...
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Some of the channels start next week.

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comfortably_numb
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
TRG
TRG
It's not even Halloween yet.
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I like the Jimmy Fallon channel. This will be its third year. I like that it's all fresh each year. Also fun when he pops on live from time to time.
Don in CT
My favorite is probably Holiday Pops.
So it's a drunk father telling his in-laws to leave.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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(((Garyd)))
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
Your old link triggered my Bitdefender today.
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Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I had a direct link to ]Political, thought provoking and debatable but now have to go in the main section or I get a warning on my Bitdefender
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Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
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I sent you a PM Scott. Doesn't really make any sense to me BUT....I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer....though I just might be the most persistent. :baby
Its an automated bot. Explained it to you in the PM.
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
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GM said its next-generation vehicle architecture will provide 40 times more computing power and 30 percent less wiring than before and will expand from the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ to its high-volume SUVs, trucks, crossovers, and fourth-generation EVs, which will be powered by lithium manganese-rich (LMR) prismatic batteries

Despite the politicization and perceived consumer pivot away from EVs in America, GM needs to remain globally competitive, so it's doubling down on its fourth generation EVs, with energy-dense, cheaper-to-manufacture LMR batteries, more efficient motors, and state-of-the-art centralized computing architecture. With a stated goal of cutting the traditional four- to five-year concept-to-production time in half, GM is clearly challenging the concept of "China speed," which in the Chinese automotive industry can be as quick as 18 months from design to start of production. In the AI space, GM is smartly collapsing all of its marque-specific apps under the familiar OnStar brand, while providing more features—both on the phone and in the car—than it ever has before.
harshness
Let's tell it like it is. GM's EV efforts are coming from SAIC. The brain trust is almost entirely in China, and GM is hanging off of SAIC's shirt tails.

It is a lot like asserting that the Corvette was designed by Chevrolet when most of it came from the Cadillac CTS-V.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
That's how Ford did it- vertical integration. He even set up a rubber plantation in S. America
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Oh Susanna, Dust off the Old Pianna - Ozzie Nelson & His Orchestra
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Garden Party - Ricky Nelson
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The Garden - Rush
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Safe In My Garden - The Mamas & The Papas
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Mary Shut The Garden Door - Donald Fagen
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.
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Ungood.
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What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
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navychop
Tell Alexa verbally what to do.
snissen
What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
I stand up from my chair with my glass in one hand and my plate in the other, when a story I really want to hear comes on the TV. So I say, "Alexa, pause DISH", and it waits for me to return from the kitchen, at which time I say, "Alexa, resume DISH".

Or maybe, when I return with a full glass in one hand and a new plate in the other, I realize I forgot to pause to hear this good story from its start. So I say, "Alexa, skip DISH backwards 3 minutes", and I still get to catch the whole story.

I use this every day. Or until I acquire a third hand.
navychop
The Resurrectionists can help you with that.

For a price.
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