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Last reply Oct 6, 2010 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

HR24 vs. VIP722

I switched from Dish to Direct on Monday and was given two HR24s for my setup. Previously, I had a VIP 722 that I used for over 2 years. I have to say that I was a little concerned about moving to a Direct DVR after hearing that Dish's boxes were so much better, but now I'm wondering if that claim is still valid. My comparison:

What I like about the 722 better:
- I think the remote has a little better layout and I like that the pause button is the biggest as opposed to the play button on the HR. I like knowing where the pause button is without having to look at the remote. For play, I have no problem looking as the program is typically paused at that point.
- I like the "Live TV' button on the 722 remote to jump to live without having to hold down a key. Maybe there's a way to do this with the HR that I'm not aware of.
- The DVR playlist and schedule seems a little more intuitive on the 722, but I'm getting used to the HR and it's not terrible.
- The Swap button on the remote to switch to the other tuner.

What I like about the HR24 better:
- The smart search is WAY better than the search capability on the 722.
- If you are actively recording a show and start it from the beginning via the DVR, you can stop it mid-play and resume from there later. On the 722, if you stop it, it asks if you want to stop the whole recording. If you don't, you have to hit the "Live TV" button and then when you go back to watch it on DVR, you have to start from the beginning.
- The ability to pause live TV while using the Double Play feature. On the 722, if you pause one and switch to the other tuner, the first tuner returns to live TV.
- On Demand
- MRV
[edit] - I forgot the Direct2PC and MediaShare capabilities. I haven't used these yet, but seem like cool features. I like the idea of streaming media to the box from the computer, just haven't had a chance to play with it.

Now the big one: Speed. I don't really notice a difference between the two. I'm not sure if the HR24 is just quite a bit faster than the older boxes or if I'm not doing the things that others say causes slowness, but I'm pleased with the response time at this point.

Overall, I think the HR24 wins the comparison as most of the 722 items are minor conveniences. There may be other features that I'm forgetting or overlooking, but so far I'm very happy with my decision to switch.

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Jodean

Jun 9, 2010

ok just installed another 500, that is pretty fast for response, ill have to check the 100's again, i know something still bothered me about them, mostly the dvr stuff i guess.

anyhow ya Vip has OTA, so 3 shows record at once

Still bothers me on the ten minute start up time on ALL direct recievers even the 500

eddieras

Oct 5, 2010

i currently have dish and thinking of switching. i have an EHD with my 722 vip - that wouldn't work with the hr24 right? once i kill dish service would i be able to access those recordings?

gadgtfreek

Oct 5, 2010

Jodean said:
ok just installed another 500, that is pretty fast for response, ill have to check the 100's again, i know something still bothered me about them, mostly the dvr stuff i guess.

anyhow ya Vip has OTA, so 3 shows record at once

Still bothers me on the ten minute start up time on ALL direct recievers even the 500

HR24 boots up real quick.

harshness

Oct 6, 2010

eddieras said:
i have an EHD with my 722 vip - that wouldn't work with the hr24 right?

You could outfit it with an eSATA interface converter and reformat it for DIRECTV.

once i kill dish service would i be able to access those recordings?

No.

harshness

Oct 6, 2010

elwaylite said:
HR24 boots up real quick.

How quick is "real quick"? Speed is relative.

Then again, the only reason you would want to reboot an HR24 is to change network interfaces or swap out external drives.

Bob Nielsen

Oct 6, 2010

Directv is compatible with eSATA EHDs, not USB. Recordings made with Dish will not play on Directv equipment.

tigerfan33

Oct 6, 2010

What is the largest EHD the HR24 will support?

gadgtfreek

Oct 6, 2010

harshness said:
How quick is "real quick"? Speed is relative.

Then again, the only reason you would want to reboot an HR24 is to change network interfaces or swap out external drives.

The guy commented on reboot time, and with MRV, sometimes a reboot is required to get it working properly again (aren't you a Dish sub?)

Let's put it this way, I can reset the HR22 in the Bedroom, walk into the Living Room, go thru the HR24 menu, then reset it. When the HR24 is back showing live TV, the HR22 is still about halfway on its progress bar.

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Scott Greczkowski

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reubenray

Last reply 49 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

49 minutes ago

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply 58 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

58 minutes ago

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

dishstaller

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Last reply 59 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WHEcmortfK0?feature=share

dishstaller

59 minutes ago

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

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