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azbumbers

Last reply May 18, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Cost to hook up an additional TV?

This has probably been discussed ad nauseam so pardon if I didn't put this under an appropriate thread but I wanted to ask on my Dad's behalf how much it would cost to hook up the HDTV in the living room to Dish. See, I've been a subscriber for a few years while he and the rest of the family had Cox (long story but to put it briefly, I just wanted what Dish had to offer). Now he's looking to cut costs by hooking up the HDTV to Dish so that we could split the cost. What would it possibly cost to get it hooked up, at least the range of the least expensive route to one that would include a HD receiver/DVR? I know he wants to get HD if possible but right now, he's simply considering the options that may be available. Thanks!

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Laddyboy

May 18, 2010

A 211k would be an option. It receives 1 sat channel and 1 OTA channel. It can be turned into a DVR by adding an external HDD and paying a one-time fee of $40. The monthly fee is $7 whether owned or leased. As to DVRs, a 612 gets 2 sat channels and 1 OTA and costs $10 per month. The 622 and 722 each receive 2 sat channels and 1 OTA channel and have PiP. They can also feed a second SDTV. The 722k is similar to the 622 and 722 but has 2 OTA tuners (with the $30 optional module) in addition to the standard 2 sat tuners so one can record 4 channels at the same time. The 622, 722, and 722k are all $17 per month. There is also the account level $6 DVR fee unless you already have a DVR. So the cost of adding a receiver is from $7 to $17 per month. I assume you already have HD service from E*.

slick1ru2

May 18, 2010

Make sure your dad knows that Dish is in an ugly patent infringement battle over its DVR technology with TiVo and may have to shut its DVRs off in the future.

JDG

May 18, 2010

Laddyboy said:
A 211k would be an option... It can be turned into a DVR by adding an external HDD and paying a one-time fee of $40...There is also the account level $6 DVR fee unless you already have a DVR.

Not to hijack the thread, but I want to make sure I'm right about something. I'm about to replace my 2 625's with 3 211k's + HDD. It's my understanding that they aren't subject to the $6/mo DVR fee. Am I correct on that?

RickDee

May 18, 2010

JDG said:
Not to hijack the thread, but I want to make sure I'm right about something. I'm about to replace my 2 625's with 3 211k's + HDD. It's my understanding that they aren't subject to the $6/mo DVR fee. Am I correct on that?

In addition to that it has been posted over and over that the ViP series DVRs are not affected by this Tivo lawsuit either.

RickDee

May 18, 2010

slick1ru2 said:
Make sure your dad knows that Dish is in an ugly patent infringement battle over its DVR technology with TiVo and may have to shut its DVRs off in the future.

It has been posted over and over that the ViP series DVRs are not affected by this Tivo lawsuit.

azbumbers

May 18, 2010

Laddyboy said:
A 211k would be an option. It receives 1 sat channel and 1 OTA channel. It can be turned into a DVR by adding an external HDD and paying a one-time fee of $40. The monthly fee is $7 whether owned or leased. As to DVRs, a 612 gets 2 sat channels and 1 OTA and costs $10 per month. The 622 and 722 each receive 2 sat channels and 1 OTA channel and have PiP. They can also feed a second SDTV. The 722k is similar to the 622 and 722 but has 2 OTA tuners (with the $30 optional module) in addition to the standard 2 sat tuners so one can record 4 channels at the same time. The 622, 722, and 722k are all $17 per month. There is also the account level $6 DVR fee unless you already have a DVR. So the cost of adding a receiver is from $7 to $17 per month. I assume you already have HD service from E*.

Well, knowing him, he'd probably consider the 211K unless it doesn't support HD, and I do indeed have HD service already. The monthly fees are fine, it's the cost of the box and installation I think that he is concerned about. I will share this with him though and find out if he has any other questions. Also, should we want to talk to a Dish rep in person, where would be the place for that? Thanks for your information, this is what I was really looking for and to the others who posted, thanks as well for your thoughts. I'm not at all concerned about the lawsuit yet as it hasn't reached the point where I'd need to be concerned especially since my box is VIP722.

Laddyboy

May 18, 2010

azbumbers said:
Well, knowing him, he'd probably consider the 211K unless it doesn't support HD, and I do indeed have HD service already. The monthly fees are fine, it's the cost of the box and installation I think that he is concerned about. I will share this with him though and find out if he has any other questions. Also, should we want to talk to a Dish rep in person, where would be the place for that? Thanks for your information, this is what I was really looking for and to the others who posted, thanks as well for your thoughts. I'm not at all concerned about the lawsuit yet as it hasn't reached the point where I'd need to be concerned especially since my box is VIP722.

I assume you want to be on the same account so you'll need to call E* about the receiver for yourself. They sell for $119 at Dishstore.net. I have no idea what E* will want as it depends on several factors. It'll likely range from free to $125 depending. Sometimes the installation is included in the price and sometimes not. If you buy it outright from Dishstore, eBay or elsewhere all you need to do is call the E* customer service number and read them some info from the receiver to get it activated. This assumes you can run the line from the sat LNB to the new receiver yourself.

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Last reply 52 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

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dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

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