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kurtdh

Last reply May 18, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Losing HD permanently? Possible fix?

Ok so I got a letter in the mail a few weeks back saying that I would need to schedule Dish to come out and repoint my Dish, or else I would eventually lose all my HD channels.

I can see I'm getting channels off 61.5, so I'm assuming that's where my HD is coming from. The tech guy showed up today and said he couldn't repoint the Dish to (I think he said 129), due to big trees in the way. He told me that when I could no longer get HD off 61.5 (he said it could be years possibly before that would happen), than I would just have to cancel my HD package because I wouldn't be able to get HD anymore.

Can anybody help me with specifics on this? When will I lose HD if I'm getting HD off 61.5? And, when I do lose HD, is there any way I can get my HD back if trees are in the way of the 129 signal? I've had Dish for about 7 years, and I really don't want to have to cancel and get different service just because I can't get HD. Any help would be appreciated.

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Rangers484

May 18, 2010

kurtdh said:
Ok so I got a letter in the mail a few weeks back saying that I would need to schedule Dish to come out and repoint my Dish, or else I would eventually lose all my HD channels.

I can see I'm getting channels off 61.5, so I'm assuming that's where my HD is coming from. The tech guy showed up today and said he couldn't repoint the Dish to (I think he said 129), due to big trees in the way. He told me that when I could no longer get HD off 61.5 (he said it could be years possibly before that would happen), than I would just have to cancel my HD package because I wouldn't be able to get HD anymore.

Can anybody help me with specifics on this? When will I lose HD if I'm getting HD off 61.5? And, when I do lose HD, is there any way I can get my HD back if trees are in the way of the 129 signal? I've had Dish for about 7 years, and I really don't want to have to cancel and get different service just because I can't get HD. Any help would be appreciated.

If you can get 61.5 they should be able to point you to the full eastern arc sats at 72, 77 and 61.5 instead of 110, 119 and 129.

harshness

May 18, 2010

We really can't help you efficiently without knowing at least what television DMA you are covered by.

Rangers484

May 18, 2010

harshness said:
We really can't help you efficiently without knowing at least what television DMA you are covered by.

to the OP, this refers to your locals. They may be moving them off 61.5 or it could be the national HD moving off 61.5 in the future.

If you locals are on the western arc 110, 119, 129 then you will lose some locals. If they are on eastern arc they can turn your dish and point it the other direction to pick up 61.5, 72, 77.

EDIT. I am on western arc with 129 so someone who has 61.5 should be able to confirm that HD nationals (ESPN, A&E, type channels) are migrating to 72 exclusively in the future. There are some nationals now on 72 that are not on 61.5 but all HD nationals are on 129.

kurtdh

May 18, 2010

fkent484 said:
to the OP, this refers to your locals. They may be moving them off 61.5 or it could be the national HD moving off 61.5 in the future.

If you locals are on the western arc 110, 119, 129 then you will lose some locals. If they are on eastern arc they can turn your dish and point it the other direction to pick up 61.5, 72, 77.

EDIT. I am on western arc with 129 so someone who has 61.5 should be able to confirm that HD nationals (ESPN, A&E, type channels) are migrating to 72 exclusively in the future. There are some nationals now on 72 that are not on 61.5 but all HD nationals are on 129.

The letter I received indicated I would be losing HD programming..not locals. So I'm not sure locals are involved with this.

I just want to know if I'm going to be losing HD some time in the future, and how to get the 6 new HD channels if I can't get 129. That's it.

digiblur

May 18, 2010

Tallahassee HD locals are on 129 (there's no beam on 61.5 that covers that DMA before someone ask why it is on 129). So the tech was trying to install a Dish 1000.2. He probably doesn't have any 1000.4 dishes since they are not using those at his shop.

Since you didn't have your HD locals anyways you could request they install a 1000.4 eastern arc dish to get the newer HD channels that are going on 72 and 129.

The tech was kind of wrong that you couldn't get your HD channels, but in a way he was right going by the policy for your area.

I would talk to a supervisor at his shop and tell him you want a 1000.4 dish for eastern arc... since you didn't get your HD locals anyways right now.

will53033

May 18, 2010

fkent484 said:
If you can get 61.5 they should be able to point you to the full eastern arc sats at 72, 77 and 61.5 instead of 110, 119 and 129.

I get 61.5 but can not get eastern arc because I can not see the 77 sat (because a tree is blocking that sat)- I can see 61.5 and 72. My local SD channels are on 110/119 - not all of my locals are HD. I can not see 129 because of trees.

A Dish tech suggested that I switch to DirectTv.

navychop

May 18, 2010

will53033 said:
I get 61.5 but can not get eastern arc because I can not see the 77 sat (because a tree is blocking that sat)- I can see 61.5 and 72. My local SD channels are on 110/119 - not all of my locals are HD. I can not see 129 because of trees.

A Dish tech suggested that I switch to DirectTv.

Not a good choice. Go with EA & use OTA for locals, if you want them. Call Dish & tell them you want EA and they should send a 1000.4 dish to the installer & tell them you can't get a LoS to 129. If they get reluctant, tell them the Dish installer suggested you move to DirecTV. If that does not work, say Goodbye, nothing more, and call a different local installer. Tell him what you want, wait for the 1000.4 dish to be delivered, and installed. Happy puppy, assuming you don't want (& don't want to pay for) locals from Dish.

77 is not important now, might never be. But 77 is almost directly overhead to you, so it seems strange if it's blocked. You don't want trees over your house, due to risk of roof damage. Perhaps your dish is mounted elsewhere.

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WHEcmortfK0?feature=share

dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

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