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I received my AZBox Premium + yesterday, just as I was preparing to leave for work. I arrived back home this morning about 4:45 am. I just had to play with this new toy.


The first thing I observed is that my signal quality across the board increased approximately 10% minimum. I checked the quality on several satellites and TPs the other day when it was just a gorgeously clear and calm day using the original Premium model. This morning, it was overcast and spitting light rain with a little breeze and every satellite showed a substantial signal quality improvement.

I did run into a snag with setting up the internet access via the WiFi. The problem was two fold from my own mistakes.

First, I simply set the new Premium + on top of the old Premium box in the entertainment center. When I tried to connect via WiFi, it had a horrible time. Many failures to connect and slow connection speed results. I removed the old box from under the new and that cured that problem.

The second problem was again my error. I couldn't get MaZEdit or Filezilla to connect to the box, even after the box was confirmed to be connected to the net. Silly me, I forgot that I have two routers running and when I rebooted my PC, it connected automatically to the router that I don't have set up for this purpose. Once I switched the router connection, all was fine.

Why two routers you ask? Well, that was a troubleshooting excerise. It's an involved story with my system and Wild Blue. Seems that I am somehow being assigned two IP addresses simultaneously, from time to time and it is screwing with my connection. This ordeal is another story in itself, but that is why I have two routers. Originally, I thought that my first router was failing, so I bought another one, different brand and make to test. The problem is not the router. I suspect something with WildBlue's service, but cannot confirm it as the problem has since gone away. I just happen to have left both routers in service.

Enough of that mumbo jumbo.

Obviously, the very first thing that I wanted to test is the BLIND SCAN capabilities of the Premium Plus. It does work and it seems to function exceptionally well in most cases. When it came to blind scanning 83.0°W for the RTV and TUFF TV TP, it failed as others have claimed. It simply would not find that TP and the channels.

During the scan process, it appeared to hesitate near the TP frequency of 11.735, but it didn't pick it up. I tried all sorts of strategies to make it easier to pick up that TP, but it just wouldn't find it.

I finally gave up trying to BLIND scan this TP and manually entered it. It pulled it in right away then. And with about 83-86% quality. This was also with a much higher quality level than I detected with the original Premium, about 15 or more percent better. I am pleased with this result, but I still cannot explain why it won't pick it up during a BLIND scan.

When it came to BLIND scanning for Approximately 8 to 18 minutesthe FEED channels, it apeared to be excellent and quick. The default search range was between 11.700 and 12.900. I adjusted this to 11.700 - 12.200 and I found all sorts of FEEDS on various satellites.

I will post more of my findings here soon, but I am running short of time for now.

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AcWxRadar
Thus far, I am pleased with the BLIND SCAN capabilities of the Premium PLUS.

Although I cannot get it to blind scan the RTV TP (11735 MHz H / 4444 SR on AMC 9 @ 83.0°W), and that leaves me with some doubt as to its overall accuracy, it seems to work quite well.

It is required that you have the NETWORK SEARCH set to NORMAL and not NIT (it prompts you if this is the case). I also adjust the upper TP limit from 12900 to 12200 to speed things up.

It appears that the BLIND SCAN time is approximately 15 minutes per satellite, which is dependant upon what you set the step size to. The 15 minutes is with the default 5000 KHz step size (ie 11770 - 11775 - 11780 - 11785). Therefore, it is not a speed demon, but it isn't extremely slow either.

I notice that even though it detects and logs the TPs, it may not always scan in all the channels. For instance on 111.1°W Anik E2R F2, It did not log any channels during the Blind Scan. However, if I went to SATELLITE SCAN or TP SCAN following the BLIND SCAN, it logged in several channels that were not there previously.

One thing that I wish they could have set up is a display - a running list - of the TPs found rather than displaying them across the bottom of the window for a moment as they are detected. Similar to the display when it logs the channels scanned in. This would be really sweet, but not necessary. It does display the total number of TPs found and how many of them were actually NEW.

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pro96
Well with that, I got myself one again but this time its the Premium Plus. Got it for a great price too.. $257.60 + $8.00 shipping
Boy now I got too many DVB-S2 toys
B.J.
Thus far, I am pleased with the BLIND SCAN capabilities of the Premium PLUS.

Although I cannot get it to blind scan the RTV TP (11735 MHz H / 4444 SR on AMC 9 @ 83.0°W), and that leaves me with some doubt as to its overall accuracy, it seems to work quite well.
How did it do on other sats where there are multiple narrow transponders near each other, such as AMC-21 with the 3 4444 SR channels, or on sats with several of those 3978 SR news feeds near each other? Seems like the likely issue with the11735 signal is the combination of step size and the other nearby narrow signals.
It is required that you have the NETWORK SEARCH set to NORMAL and not NIT (it prompts you if this is the case).
This interest me because I'm curious why there should be more than one flavor of a NETWORK search. I thought that a NETWORK search ALWAYS used the NIT to identify other transponders that had channels in the network, but perhaps that's wrong. Only other place I can think of where a receiver could find network info might be from the SDT, which often contains info on channels on other transponders and on other satellites.
I've often been curious just how this type search works, as the content of these NIT and SDT streams seem so variable from one network to another, that it's amazing that a generic receiver would ever get it right, but I've seen it work at times when I accidently hit network search on some receivers.
Anyway, do you have any idea what the difference between normal and NIT is?
I notice that even though it detects and logs the TPs, it may not always scan in all the channels. For instance on 111.1°W Anik E2R F2, It did not log any channels during the Blind Scan. However, if I went to SATELLITE SCAN or TP SCAN following the BLIND SCAN, it logged in several channels that were not there previously.
This is interesting because with most blind scan receivers, it does a satellite scan after doing the search for new transponders. This makes me think that perhaps it only does the scan on the newly found transponders, and perhaps you already had the transponders it missed in the transponder list. I'm guessing that they wanted to speed up blind scan by not wasting time scanning transponders already in memory?
AcWxRadar
How did it do on other sats where there are multiple narrow transponders near each other, such as AMC-21 with the 3 4444 SR channels, or on sats with several of those 3978 SR news feeds near each other? Seems like the likely issue with the11735 signal is the combination of step size and the other nearby narrow signals.

Out of curiousity with this, I deleted all but one TP (one that wasn't active at the time) from AMC 21 and blind scanned it. It found all the TPs with the 4444 SR just fine, but for some reason, it didn't pick up the 12140 V SR 30000 TP. That is the HDTV PBS TP.

This interest me because I'm curious why there should be more than one flavor of a NETWORK search. I thought that a NETWORK search ALWAYS used the NIT to identify other transponders that had channels in the network, but perhaps that's wrong. Only other place I can think of where a receiver could find network info might be from the SDT, which often contains info on channels on other transponders and on other satellites.
I've often been curious just how this type search works, as the content of these NIT and SDT streams seem so variable from one network to another, that it's amazing that a generic receiver would ever get it right, but I've seen it work at times when I accidently hit network search on some receivers.
Anyway, do you have any idea what the difference between normal and NIT is?

I don't think here that there are different flavors of the NETWORK SEARCH in this case. I think that they used a slightly incorrect terminology here. It should probably be stated as NIT SEARCH.... ON/OFF.

The way I understand NIT search is that there is a table (the Network Information Table or NIT) available on one of the providers TPs and if you scan that one particular TP, the receiver loads that table into memory. The table contains the entire list of all the other sats and TPs and channels available from that one provider.

I have never seen this NIT search actually function with any receiver I have ever owned.

This is interesting because with most blind scan receivers, it does a satellite scan after doing the search for new transponders. This makes me think that perhaps it only does the scan on the newly found transponders, and perhaps you already had the transponders it missed in the transponder list. I'm guessing that they wanted to speed up blind scan by not wasting time scanning transponders already in memory?

The AZBox Premium PLUS appears to do just that, perform a SAT scan for channels after the blind scan is completed. But, there may be a glitch as in the case that I cited with 111.1°W, the sat scan went extremely fast, too fast to seriously have been scanning all the TPs found during the BLIND SCAN and then it was all done and over with.

I knew that it should have found at least one channel, the Shoppers Drug Mart. I went back and selected SAT scan and it found the three LEARN channels on TP 11770, but it didn't find the Shoppers Drug Mart. So I rescanned again selecting scan for all channels (encrypted channels included). It then found the Shoppers Drug Mart. It labeled it as being encrypted, although it is not.

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B.J.
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I don't think here that there are different flavors of the NETWORK SEARCH in this case. I think that they used a slightly incorrect terminology here. It should probably be stated as NIT SEARCH.... ON/OFF.

The way I understand NIT search is that there is a table (the Network Information Table or NIT) available on one of the providers TPs and if you scan that one particular TP, the receiver loads that table into memory. The table contains the entire list of all the other sats and TPs and channels available from that one provider.

I have never seen this NIT search actually function with any receiver I have ever owned.
I *THINK* I've seen it function a couple times. I can't remember which sats, but I think once on the then G25 (G19) sat with those Globecast things (I may be wrong about that), and once on either a DN or Nimiq sat when I was trying to scan in a channel that happened to be FTA. In both cases, I was trying to just scan in one channel on one transponder, but accidently hit network search, ane it started scanning all the transponders in the network. I can't remember if it created new transponders or if I already had the transponders entered into the receiver.

The thing that amazes me about the function is that while the NIT has some standardization, always on PID#16, and there seem to be a few standard entries, it seems like different services have significant differences with respect to what they put into the NIT, and there doesn't seem to be enough standardization to allow a consumer receiver to know what to do with the info. DN, for example, has a list of EVERY DN sat, and every transponder on each of those sats. I wasn't sure how it figured out which sat the receiver is currently tuning, but I just looked at a DN NIT, and it seems to have a "Current Network: TRUE" parameter on all the transponders on the current sat, and not on any transponders listed for other sats. So I guess receivers must look for entries that have this parameter set as true, and then go to scan those transponders. I'm not sure what receivers would do if the transponder isn't already in the list, and/or if the listed freq is different, etc, plus the NIT generally doesn't completely specify the modulation mode, often giving a list of possible modes. I'm also not sure what it would do when it sees a dozen different spot beams with the same freq.
It's not important to me, since I never intentionally use the network search, but I'm just curious about how it works. I may go to one of those DN sats where I've deleted some or all of the transponders, and see what it actually does, ie whether it creates new transponders when they're missing, and what it does if the freq or SR is different from what's in the receiver.
Another interesting oddity. Many receivers pop up the name of the sat you're on, if it happens to be listed in the NIT of the transponder you're tuned to. The interesting thing about the DN sat I just tuned to is that some of the NIT transponder entries list the sat name, others don't. It seems to pick up the sat name, even if the sat name isn't listed under the NIT entry for the transponder you're tuned to, so it must search through all the entries looking for the sat name. The DN NIT has 576 entries, and there are sat name entries on about a only a fraction of the entries, but it's listed for all of the sats. So it must search for sat names in an entry that has the Current Network=true parameter set.
Anyway, it's interesting how it works, particularly because MOST sat transponders don't even have an NIT PID, and most that do, don't have correct info in them. So I'm guessing that network search would only work on a very few networks that keep useful info in the NIT.
J
Well with that, I got myself one again but this time its the Premium Plus. Got it for a great price too.. $257.60 + $8.00 shipping
Boy now I got too many DVB-S2 toys

:upWhere did you purchase it? I will be replacing my pansat 9000 hd.
AcWxRadar
:upWhere did you purchase it? I will be replacing my pansat 9000 hd.

Jkyates,

Check Pro96's thread here: http://www.satelliteguys.us/azbox-discussion/214258-well-i-am-back-az-wagon.html

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nycrich
You guys convinced me. I purchased an AZBOX Premium Plus HD today from AZBOXUSA, which is a 30 min drive from home to Miami. I was surprised to find 3 dealers on the same block selling AZBOX models.
They are made in Portugal by Opensat, assembled in Korea. They also sell a lot of AZBOX stuff on Ebay
(+16000 positive feedback ). I understand that the original company Opensat from the magazine article set up a office/sales room here in Miami, FL (as per Telesat article) and decided to buy from them, since it would be easier to drive over should I have any issues. Good friendly service.
Will see how the box works out. Priced at $380+taxes
B
address of the AZBOXUSA at Miami

nycrich, could you please inform the address of the AZBOXUSA at Miami? Thanks in advance. Bionic.
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Looking for a manual. Want to do some radio astronomy with it. Realize it's old but, since it's not for tv use don't need any decoders, just the RF section.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

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Thanks for your understanding. :)
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Foxbat
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
dweber
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…
Hooray!
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What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Do you mean the safari browser?
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What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.
Actually, PWA stands for "Progressive Web Application" and is basically just saving a site's homepage to your desktop where it appears as an "App" with the rest of your smartphone's Apps.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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N5XZS
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
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probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.
N5XZS
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2
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Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet :)
N5XZS
Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it. :rolleyes: :hatsoff2
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According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

BlackHitachi
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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osu1991
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
dfergie
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.
There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
harshness
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
dfergie
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.
I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.
osu1991

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3


Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.
dfergie
Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax
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I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.
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b4pjoe
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
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zippyfrog
I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

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I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois
R
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.
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Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Ill

Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this


They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois
Final Update... As of 8:08 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026.

I now have MLB Extra Innings back! Look at the photo! (I did not include full image of the game due to copyright)

Let me just say it was rough! Very rough! And lets just say Charlie Ergen should be ashamed of his customer service team and how they handled this whole issue.

After multiple calls after my last post only to get the run around with answers like there are no refunds on MLB Extra Innings once the season starts, to they are working on it, to accessing my screen and sending multi hits to the box.

All I asked was one simple question remove the MLB Extra Innings which they confirmed I had and reauthorize free of charge. I was given a 1,000 reasons why this couldn't be done.

Well..........

I paid for it myself.... $120.00 current rate and it works!

I called back in to let them know what I done and what I thought of the customer service and told them I needed refunded. I was told they didn't do refunds....

Well again I called back and got someone who refunded the original payment of $150.00 back to my account. A $30 discount for all the hard trouble I went though.

It is now up to you all out there that have MLB Extra Innings to try to get them to do this but I am afraid you are going to have to take your own action and purchase again and beg for a refund or be out the $150.00 originally paid.

Persistence pays off. I don't give up very easily.

You can all go here below to make the purchase if you have any trouble.


I hope it all works well for you! And best of luck to everyone who has it!

I will still be around on this forum. You all sound like a fine group of people! I hope I can contribute more.

Take care!

RJ T.
From Illinois