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Jarrett Campbell

Last reply Dec 21, 2004 · posted in Old YAHOOGROUPS - VOOM! Archives

Re: [VOOM] Std Tivo box

Yes.

Using the S-Video output (or composite), you'll get a SD (480i)
signal. I set the Voom Picture Format option to "Letterbox" so I get
the whole 16x9 picture with black bars on top and bottom when viewing
through TiVo. There is definitely quality degradation but it is
perfectly watchable. I wouldn't watch all my programming this way but
a show here and there isn't too bad.

Note. I actually haven't setup my lineup to Voom (I've got VoIP phone
and my TiVo can't dial in to get a new lineup since I changed from
DISH...got to take TiVo to a friend's to do this soon!) but I can
manually record just fine. I'm positive Voom's national lineup is
integrated with TiVo but I do not believe that it has the program
listings for local channels. You'd have to find a manual work around
for actually taping ABC.

Jarrett

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:37:24 -0600, Robert Heitner <ddprobert@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is anyone out there using a standard (non directv type) tivo box to record
> Voom? Does it record hd programming.. just in sd quality? ie if you tell
> it
> to record LOST on ABC/Wed, can you watch it but the quality isn't there?
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> Am I making sense?
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Stan Sexton

Dec 21, 2004

I"ve been talking to www.169time.com about recording high def off OTA and they say you could do it using a LG LST-3410. I'm investigating that now.
I just can't miss my Desperate Housewives and Boston Legal! For VOOM recording, we have to use the S-VHS output to a S-VHS VCR and on the top of the line JVC deck that I have, it's almost DVD quality, better than SD OTA or cable which is about 330 lines.
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Chris Green

Dec 21, 2004

The problem with Tivo and Voom is that Tivo won't control the STB to record
OTA's. YOU have to use the built in tuner which is analog. The alternative
is to manually tune the STB using a custom recording on the Tivo. It's
still better than VCR, but it was too much of a pain in the rear for me to
do manual recordings since it defeated the entire purpose of the Tivo's
season pass.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Heitner [mailto:ddprobert@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:37 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VOOM] Std Tivo box

Is anyone out there using a standard (non directv type) tivo box to record
Voom? Does it record hd programming.. just in sd quality? ie if you tell it
to record LOST on ABC/Wed, can you watch it but the quality isn't there?

Am I making sense?

Robert.

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Stan Sexton

Dec 21, 2004

Re: [VOOM] Re: Std Tivo box

I think that JVC is the technology leader in S-VHS. The were the co-developers of the VHS format and have the most models. In fact, in just the S-VHS format, they have 6 models.
But I would only consider the top two. They both have active video calibration.
I've had S-VHS VCRs since the early 90's, when they were $800. They are so much better and so much cheaper. We are now at the zenith of S-VCR technology. And I prefer it over hard disk recording.
I really believe the picture quality of JVC's top deck is almost DVD. I 've recorded DVD's on it and it's almost DVD quality (this takes special macrovision removing software - I did it just as a test - you are better off making a DVD copy of a DVD - I was just testing).
S-VHS has a max of 400 lines. Regular VHS has a max of 240 lines. Cable and SD OTA is about 330 lines. Which means that when you record on regular VHS, you reduce your resolution to 240 lines. YUK!!!
At least when I watch pre-recorded VHS movies, my Sony LCD HD TV does line-doubling for a better picture.
A couple of hints. Keep your old VCR for playing back old VHS tapes. While all S-VHS VCRs will play regular VHS, the playback quality is optimized for S-VHS, and not regular VHS. I always use different decks for VHS and S-VHS.
Don't buy special S-VHS tapes to record on. Regular VHS tapes are better now and on most S-VHS decks, especially the better ones, you won't see the difference. The only difference in the tape cassette is a small hole in the bottom of the S-VHS cassette. I buy my tapes at the 99 cent store and punch that hole in the bottom. The hole matches a pin switch in the S-VHS deck and tells it that you are using a S-VHS deck. Most decks have an switch that allows the use of regular tape but I punch anyway (requires a scratch awl to punch hole).
You can find JVC's seciond best deck - the HR-S5912U at Crutchfield for $179.99. JVC's top deck -the HR-S9911U for $359 at B&H Photo.
What do you get for the price diff? The top deck has digital processing. Time Based Correction with 4mb Frame memory, video calibration to match the tapes bias, and more.TBC removes the "jitter" for a smoother picture. What diff will you see? The top deck has no white noise from the tape visible and has a really smooth picture.
A few years ago, you would have paid $$$$$ for this available in only pro VCR's.
All other tape decks have white noise from tape, which is the same as tape hiss in a audio cassette player but this is visible noise.
Sop go for the Gold. It's cheap and the price will go up with inflation and the falling value of the dollar. This top deck is most likely still made in Japan, while 99% of the others are not.

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linkinkorn_kid

Dec 21, 2004

[VOOM] Re: Std Tivo box

--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Green" <cgreen@g...> wrote:
> The problem with Tivo and Voom is that Tivo won't control the STB
to record
> OTA's. YOU have to use the built in tuner which is analog. The
alternative
> is to manually tune the STB using a custom recording on the Tivo.
It's
> still better than VCR, but it was too much of a pain in the rear
for me to
> do manual recordings since it defeated the entire purpose of the
Tivo's
> season pass.
>
> Chris
>*********************************************************************

> Well we are currently expecting the HD VOOM DVR in the up coming
months we well! Im here with any questions you all might have ok! I
check my email everyday unless Im at work alot lols! Yes we are
excepting the DVr very soon,thats the only info we do have right
now.No prices on that yet sorry to say! I do know that it will have
many turners built inside where you can record 2 programming stations
at once and while watching a 3 stations w/ no problem!I hope you keep
in touch to see when that is ava for you! Always check out the
website as well once we do get new info on things like that our
webiste is always updated with new info once it does come out.
Thankyou!
LinkinKorn_Kid
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record
> Voom? Does it record hd programming.. just in sd quality? ie if
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klang

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Last reply 27 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

Rockford Files Reboot?

'Rockford Files' Reboot Gets NBC Pilot Order

I grow tired of all the reboots. Most I don't bother with but will depend on the actor chosen.

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osu1991

May 11, 2026

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Premiere in January on nbc and peacock.

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klang

May 11, 2026

January? OK.

I'm sure I will check it out. Not getting my hopes up but I did enjoy the actor in SEAL Team. Never saw any of his earlier work.

long_time_Dish

May 12, 2026

Yeah, I'll check it out as well, but shan't be holding my breath...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...

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harshness

May 12, 2026

long_time_DNC said:
...It'll be tough to equal James Garner in that role...

I can think of a few actors (including some females) who might fit the bill.

This will all depend on the storyline. I'm not sure how well it will translate. Modern TV hasn't been all that kind to PIs and even less kind to CIs (confidential informants).

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Premier is Saturday, Jan 2nd. Moving to Thursday on the 7th.

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MorCowbell

Last reply Today at 4:49 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?

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dishstaller

Tuesday at 9:42 PM

I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

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n0qcu

Yesterday at 10:41 AM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:11 AM

n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.

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MorCowbell

Today at 10:06 AM

You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."

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dennispap

Today at 4:08 PM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I remember that also on my 722.

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dishstaller

Today at 4:48 PM

dennispap said:
I remember that also on my 722.

Thanks.....has been too many years to remember clearly.

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Bobby

Today at 4:49 PM

Keep in mind that the 722 had a built in OTA tuner and the 722K had a plug in module for OTA. The Hoppers and Wallys use an add on USB OTA dongle. I believe they are entirely different.

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osu1991

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Marvel Television’s VisionQuest

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osu1991

Oct 14, 2026

Finished the 2nd episode tonight. I'm really liking it so far.

Still hate weekly releases though, especially the way Disney and HBO do it waiting until 8pm to premiere it.

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Foxbat

Oct 28, 2026

Apparently I'm not a big enough nerd

since I did not read every Marvel Comic Book ever published. If I had, I might be comparing the comics' version of events compared to what's transpiring in "Visionquest". So, I am enjoying the series a lot, not weighed down by previous expectations, knowing only the Avengers MCU movies and the "Wandavision" / "Agatha All Along" TV series.

I found the Mr Know-it-All channel from his discussion about "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" and he's been gleefully picking these episodes apart, referencing the Marvel comics from the 1939 on. Turns out A.I. has been around since before World War II, at least in the comics. (Robots before that, yes, yes.) This show is going back into the archives.

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Foxbat

Today at 1:32 PM

I'm expecting the finale to basically bring Vision into play for the Doomsday movie next month.

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osu1991

Today at 2:06 PM

annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks

Foxbat

Today at 3:41 PM

osu1991 said:
annoying they went with single episodes for the last two after releasing two a week for the first 3 weeks

I thought they were effectively releasing a longer episode 7 and 8 instead of shorter episodes 7 & 8 this week and 9 & 10 next week. It felt like they were packing more into this episode.

edit: But you're right, the run time of the first three pairs of episodes was 100 minutes on average. Episode 7 clocks in at 65 minutes.

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 2:51 PM · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

New Gemini Box

The following is from Reddit. -
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There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:

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Scott Greczkowski

Oct 23, 2026

I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

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Tom Speer

Oct 23, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.

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b4pjoe

Oct 23, 2026

Tom Speer said:
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.

I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.

robjlevin

Oct 24, 2026

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.

That would be a deal-breaker for me. The Rokus default to having it on all the time but it's easy enough to change that to native. If the content is HDR it goes on. Otherwise, no.

Redbullsnation

Today at 2:43 PM

I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

b4pjoe

Today at 2:51 PM

Redbullsnation said:
I don't mind HDR being on as long as its adaptive. I don't need HDR on non-HDR content

Also, God only knows how much it'll cost to get this per month. 10 bucks a month for 3 TVs in my apartment is not worth it if I can just use my android boxes and appletv to watch

It is not adaptive. HDR is either always on or off. No in between. However with my Gemini on satellite everything looks much better with HDR on.