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Islandguy43

Last reply Jun 9, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Unbiased Dish vs Direct Comparison

Don't you all think, since Iceberg is very well respected on these forums, and has had both services recently. How about he gives us his honest unbiased Likes and Dislikes of both services in a comparison format

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flody1

Jun 8, 2010

RAIN FADE

Is it the same on Dish and Direct ???? I have Dish---just migrated from Big Dish C-band. Rain fade is new to me.

cditty

Jun 8, 2010

Everyone is biased. You have to decide what you want in a provider...

Jhon69

Jun 8, 2010

cditty said:
Everyone is biased. You have to decide what you want in a provider...

Not me I can point out the short comings in any provider.Like they say"You don't have to love them,just like them".

When it comes to standard definition programing both providers come up short with Dish a little less with more Premium Movie Services in standard definition Dish-39,DirecTV-31,and while I'm talking about Premium Movie Services Hey Dish! Where's my HBO Zone in MPEG2 SD!.:rant:

Jhon69

Jun 8, 2010

flody1 said:
Is it the same on Dish and Direct ???? I have Dish---just migrated from Big Dish C-band. Rain fade is new to me.

Depends where you live and how rainy it gets.First have your alignment doublechecked,then try a bigger reflector?(dish).This would be my advice no matter who you have.Check with a local installer if rain fade gets so bad you can't stand it.
Good Luck!.

flody1

Jun 9, 2010

Jhon69 said:
Depends where you live and how rainy it gets.First have your alignment doublechecked,then try a bigger reflector?(dish).This would be my advice no matter who you have.Check with a local installer if rain fade gets so bad you can't stand it.
Good Luck!.

THanks, local installer put it up 1000.2 I think for 110/119/129 Hd200 package. Storm showed up red on the radar/lightning. He had a bigger dish , but said if I bought it DISH monthly insurance plan would be void. They must tell him what to install ?? VIP 622 receiver

vaylon

Jun 9, 2010

I have both.
Dish at home and Direct at the lake house.

I can't really compare prices because on Dish I have HD absolute.

I can say that the reason I didn't get Dish at the lake was because of the extra receiver fee's. The lake house has 7 guest bedrooms and I wanted each one to have its own receiver. When I first contacted Dish, they said they couldn't do it. Then a local installer came out and gave me a quote for 300 for installation and a monthly charge of close to 150 a month for the top 200 (no HD).
Direct gave me 1 HD receiver and 7 sd set top boxes for 79.00 a month with free installation and they used as much of the old installed cable as they could. Its just basic programming .

I do like Dishes menu and DVR better than Direct and I also think Dish's HD signal has less issues than Directs. The direct HD signal is way to inconsistent and I really get aggravated watching a show and the black areas become blocky. But for the price I won't complain. Besides at the lake no one actually watches the tv's except for news and weather or something to put them to sleep.

Direct also seems to have way more issues with billing. It seems like every month I have to call in and get something adjusted. Like a movie I didn't order or they charge a different price for service than they were suppose to. Thats really aggravating.

But to be honest.
If I didn't have Absolute on Dish or the cheap price on Direct?, I would drop both of them and go back to a regular antennae. My locals went from 6 stations before the HD switch to around 16 now and we now have a 24 hour news channel and a 24 hour weather channel.

Jhon69

Jun 9, 2010

flody1 said:
THanks, local installer put it up 1000.2 I think for 110/119/129 Hd200 package. Storm showed up red on the radar/lightning. He had a bigger dish , but said if I bought it DISH monthly insurance plan would be void. They must tell him what to install ?? VIP 622 receiver

The only way then is to read Dish's Protection Plan and see what that says:

http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads/legal/ServicePlan.pdf

It maybe a blessing because normally when you quit Dish they want their LNB back!.

You would have to weigh your options and go from there.Good Luck!

Jhon69

Jun 9, 2010

flody1 said:
THanks, local installer put it up 1000.2 I think for 110/119/129 Hd200 package. Storm showed up red on the radar/lightning. He had a bigger dish , but said if I bought it DISH monthly insurance plan would be void. They must tell him what to install ?? VIP 622 receiver

Here's another site:

Satellite Equipment

allargon

Jun 9, 2010

Jhon69 said:
When it comes to standard definition programing both providers come up short with Dish a little less with more Premium Movie Services in standard definition Dish-39,DirecTV-31,and while I'm talking about Premium Movie Services Hey Dish! Where's my HBO Zone in MPEG2 SD!.:rant:

If it's available in HD, you can downgrade it to SD provided you have a HD capable receiver.

Things to complain about in the SD world are the missing Viacom music channels like MTV The Hits, The Gospel Music Channel, Jazz, VH1 Soul, etc. Complaining about a non-stretched HD channel (even a fake one like Logo) w/ no space wasting SD channel seems a bit rich.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 42 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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dishstaller

Today at 10:32 AM

I Wanna Talk About Me - Toby Keith

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Bobby

Today at 10:51 AM

98.6 - Keith

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Today at 11:25 AM

I'm Easy - Keith Carridine

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Today at 11:41 AM

It's Easy - Boston

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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

mobilemusthave.com

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJy0WnejlF4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WHEcmortfK0?feature=share

dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

www.dailymail.com