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Last reply Jul 8, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Upgrade Letter From Dish

I received a letter from Dish today dated 2 Jul. They need to upgrade an existing receiver. I have a 501 that will be replaced with a 612. This will be free of charge. There will not be any additional charges on my monthly statement. So is Dish replacing all of the SD units with HD receivers?

It looks like Dish is starting to replace the old MPEG2 receivers.

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r10fret

Jul 8, 2010

Makes perfect sense for the bean counters if you can dump a bunch of obsolete hardware into the market place and commit those people you just dumped on into 24 month terms then get them when they contact you for free HD upgrade into a second extended term.

That is why I will not enter a commitment with either provider, I wish both directv and dish would go back to the beginning and just sell the hardware outright and give people 36 month replacement warrenties on the equipment, this business of people gameing the system to get 10 receivers and every possible dish config is ridulous, have you seen the thread in the directv forum? Some dude ordered international, spanish, and HD with 9 receivers just so he could get the latest and greatest 2 dish install with a 16 way switch and 9 tuners, then he admitted that he was going to call in and drop all the extra stuff after one month just to keep the dishes and switcher with 3 tuners, I have been a sub to both companies for 10-15 years now and think that $100 a month for tv is just ridulous, I have to believe that long time steady account subs like myself are paying for all these gamers, If somebody wants all this stuff installed let them pay upfront. This whole lease deal is a racket, the same reason I go with prepaid cell service. People are getting scammed, the biggest scam is service plan $15 a month, in 6 months that equals $90 and for $90 you could just about buy a new 211 or 222 with a 1 year upon activation warrenty. So in a whole year if you save your $15 x 12 months thats a $180 and you could buy a 612 or almost a 722 and get a one year warrenty. Its a racket, I say!

bill42

Jul 8, 2010

I received a letter about a week ago from Dish. Didn't read it, toss it in the round folder. Thought it was a sales pitch but I already have Dish so it was pitched. Maybe Imissed something

Bobby

Jul 8, 2010

r10fret said:
Makes perfect sense for the bean counters if you can dump a bunch of obsolete hardware into the market place and commit those people you just dumped on into 24 month terms then get them when they contact you for free HD upgrade into a second extended term.

That is why I will not enter a commitment with either provider, I wish both directv and dish would go back to the beginning and just sell the hardware outright and give people 36 month replacement warrenties on the equipment, this business of people gameing the system to get 10 receivers and every possible dish config is ridulous, have you seen the thread in the directv forum? Some dude ordered international, spanish, and HD with 9 receivers just so he could get the latest and greatest 2 dish install with a 16 way switch and 9 tuners, then he admitted that he was going to call in and drop all the extra stuff after one month just to keep the dishes and switcher with 3 tuners, I have been a sub to both companies for 10-15 years now and think that $100 a month for tv is just ridulous, I have to believe that long time steady account subs like myself are paying for all these gamers, If somebody wants all this stuff installed let them pay upfront. This whole lease deal is a racket, the same reason I go with prepaid cell service. People are getting scammed, the biggest scam is service plan $15 a month, in 6 months that equals $90 and for $90 you could just about buy a new 211 or 222 with a 1 year upon activation warrenty. So in a whole year if you save your $15 x 12 months thats a $180 and you could buy a 612 or almost a 722 and get a one year warrenty. Its a racket, I say!

Yada, yada, yada.... The service plan is $6 a month, not $15 as you wrote. Yeah, it's still $72 a year, but it damned sure isn't $180.....

navychop

Jul 8, 2010

I joined Dish (1999?) under a $10/month promo. I now pay over $100/month. Even after my son leaves, it'll be close to $100. I get a lot more channels today, movie premiums, HD, DVRs, pay new taxes, far better hardware and EHDs. Is it worth a ten fold increase over around ten years? I guess so, especially considering the original promo was less than half the going rate. But it still is something of a shock.

r10fret

Jul 8, 2010

Bobby said:
Yada, yada, yada.... The service plan is $6 a month, not $15 as you wrote. Yeah, it's still $72 a year, but it damned sure isn't $180.....

Not according to my account, it says 14.99 a month under view additional programming since the June 3rd changes, in addition I have repeatly asked for dish to update the RCA residential customer aggreement on their website since June 3rd or send me a new one that reflects the new fee structure and they have not more then a month later.

DISH Network - Customer Agreements
http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads/legal/RCA.pdf

Bobby

Jul 8, 2010

r10fret said:
Not according to my account, it says 14.99 a month under view additional programming since the June 3rd changes, in addition I have repeatly asked for dish to update the RCA residential customer aggreement on their website since June 3rd or send me a new one that reflects the new fee structure and they have not more then a month later.

DISH Network - Customer Agreements
http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads/legal/RCA.pdf

OK, define what you mean by service plan that is costing you $14.99 a month. I am talking about what was called the DHPP which was $5.95 and is now $6.00.

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"MysteryMan"

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EarDemon

Oct 13, 2026

If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

WhiteBeard

Oct 13, 2026

EarDemon said:
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.

To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

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EarDemon

Oct 14, 2026

WhiteBeard said:
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.

For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.

harshness

Oct 15, 2026

EarDemon said:
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.

What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.

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EarDemon

Oct 15, 2026

harshness said:
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?

Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.

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EarDemon

Oct 15, 2026

I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

harshness

Oct 16, 2026

EarDemon said:
Because it's what I prefer.

I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.

HipKat

Oct 16, 2026

EarDemon said:
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.

I used to pin the C: drive to the Win Taskbar and it would open in cascading style

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