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Good evening, all. This is my first post here, and I've been experiencing an interesting issue with a Super Dish installation that I'm betting some of you veterans can help out with, if you'd be so kind.
I've installed a few dishes for both Direcway (HughesNet) and Echostar. but haven't seen this particular anomaly before.
My father (David) doesn't want a commitment with Dish for equipment, so he had me to buy him a used 301 receiver and a used 105 SuperDish and point it at 110 and 119. He doesn't care about 105. Receiver has been activated with Dish and appears to function normally.
His zipcode is 37341. His locals are on 110. There are no line of sight issues - nearest tree is over 200' away.
The issue I'm having with the installation is getting 119 to show much of any signal strength at all. 110 gets signals in 70's on many transponders, and all local channels show fine. However, 119 shows 8 or 9 at best, and fails to lock, of course.
Elevation seems best at about 44 degrees, Azimuth at 220 or so, and skew about 115. These don't exactly agree with what DishPointer.com told me to expect, but they're pretty close.
Pole is perfectly plumb, and RG6 cabling is sound.
That in and of itself is not unusual to be sure, but there's more. When I had no luck getting a signal at 119 even though 110 was great, I decided I just had the thing pointed incorrectly and went to my father-in-law 's (Ed) house nearby.
I had installed Ed's setup (the same used 105 SuperDish with a used 301 receiver pointed at 110 and 119) a year or so ago, and it functions perfectly. Checked his pointing, and it was identical to what I was doing at David's house a couple miles away.
So I decided I had bad hardware. Changed out 119 LNB with a known good one. No 119 signal. Changed out DP34 switch with a known good one. No 119 signal. Changed out his 301 receiver with a known good one. No 119 signal. Swapped RG6 cables between the 2 LNB's. Still no signal on 119, always a great signal on 110. Hmmmm....
So then I measured the 2 SuperDishes that were at Ed's house and David's house. To my surprise, they were not identical. The SuperDish that works fine at Ed's house is metal, David's is fiberglass. Ed's metal one is slightly taller (24") than David's (22") and Ed's is slightly narrower (34") than David's (36").
Also, both of the 110 LNB's are different between the two Dishes - one comes to a pretty sharp point, and the other has a flat lens on it about 2 inches around. Bear in mind that 110 works on BOTH dishes. And also, the 119 LNB's are identical on both dishes, and are on the same side of the dish arm and in the same position best I can tell.
So, my question is: do I not have two 105 Superdishes, or did I inadvertantly buy a SuperDish that cannot tune 119? Are the differences betweeen my two dishes causing my 119 tuning problem, even though the 119 LNB's on both dishes are identical?
I have swapped out every other piece of hardware, so it's either down to a pointing problem, (which is unlikely since the same setting work just a couple miles down the road) or a Super Dish hardware issue.
Anyone have any ideas? Thank you very much for your time spent reading this long question!
I've installed a few dishes for both Direcway (HughesNet) and Echostar. but haven't seen this particular anomaly before.
My father (David) doesn't want a commitment with Dish for equipment, so he had me to buy him a used 301 receiver and a used 105 SuperDish and point it at 110 and 119. He doesn't care about 105. Receiver has been activated with Dish and appears to function normally.
His zipcode is 37341. His locals are on 110. There are no line of sight issues - nearest tree is over 200' away.
The issue I'm having with the installation is getting 119 to show much of any signal strength at all. 110 gets signals in 70's on many transponders, and all local channels show fine. However, 119 shows 8 or 9 at best, and fails to lock, of course.
Elevation seems best at about 44 degrees, Azimuth at 220 or so, and skew about 115. These don't exactly agree with what DishPointer.com told me to expect, but they're pretty close.
Pole is perfectly plumb, and RG6 cabling is sound.
That in and of itself is not unusual to be sure, but there's more. When I had no luck getting a signal at 119 even though 110 was great, I decided I just had the thing pointed incorrectly and went to my father-in-law 's (Ed) house nearby.
I had installed Ed's setup (the same used 105 SuperDish with a used 301 receiver pointed at 110 and 119) a year or so ago, and it functions perfectly. Checked his pointing, and it was identical to what I was doing at David's house a couple miles away.
So I decided I had bad hardware. Changed out 119 LNB with a known good one. No 119 signal. Changed out DP34 switch with a known good one. No 119 signal. Changed out his 301 receiver with a known good one. No 119 signal. Swapped RG6 cables between the 2 LNB's. Still no signal on 119, always a great signal on 110. Hmmmm....
So then I measured the 2 SuperDishes that were at Ed's house and David's house. To my surprise, they were not identical. The SuperDish that works fine at Ed's house is metal, David's is fiberglass. Ed's metal one is slightly taller (24") than David's (22") and Ed's is slightly narrower (34") than David's (36").
Also, both of the 110 LNB's are different between the two Dishes - one comes to a pretty sharp point, and the other has a flat lens on it about 2 inches around. Bear in mind that 110 works on BOTH dishes. And also, the 119 LNB's are identical on both dishes, and are on the same side of the dish arm and in the same position best I can tell.
So, my question is: do I not have two 105 Superdishes, or did I inadvertantly buy a SuperDish that cannot tune 119? Are the differences betweeen my two dishes causing my 119 tuning problem, even though the 119 LNB's on both dishes are identical?
I have swapped out every other piece of hardware, so it's either down to a pointing problem, (which is unlikely since the same setting work just a couple miles down the road) or a Super Dish hardware issue.
Anyone have any ideas? Thank you very much for your time spent reading this long question!
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Some pictures for your perusal...
Gentlemen,
Many thanks for your suggestions and input so far. I would like to submit some pictures of the two dishes that might clarify some things.
First, here's a picture of David's SuperDish - the one that doesn't get 119.
Per Harshness, Dishcomm's and Icebergs suggestions, I wanted to verify to all of you that I am indeed connected to the correct LNB and aiming the LNB at the correct satellite. So, instead of messing with foil, I simply hooked the 301 receiver directly to the 110 LNB on the 105 Superdish, ran a check switch and looked at the results.
You can see that the receiver sees the 110 LNB, and in this configuration receives the local channels perfectly with signal strength in the 70's.
Now here's the view of the sky from Davids dish.
Camera was held under the feedhorn arm of the dish at close (best I could do) to the same angle as the dish itself. A few trees to the right, but a nice clear view overall. I'm getting great signals in other locations with far more tree blockage, as you'll see later...
Now here is the metal 105 Dish at Ed's that works perfectly.
Here's Ed's dish's view, taken (as best I could) in the same way as was David's.
Note the much heavier tree blockage - yet this dish gets 110 in the 70's and 119 in the upper 60's! Go figure.
Now check out this side image of Ed's dish:
Some have suggested warpage as the issue with David's dish, yet Ed's is the one with the dent in the edge, trees half blocking the view, and it works great.
At least these pictures will hopefully convince Timberwolf, Dishcomm, and Iceberg that I am indeed working with 105 Super Dishes, and that I am pointing David's dish at 110.
Any thoughts?
Thanks again for all you guys' help and suggestions!
Tim
Gentlemen,
Many thanks for your suggestions and input so far. I would like to submit some pictures of the two dishes that might clarify some things.
First, here's a picture of David's SuperDish - the one that doesn't get 119.
Per Harshness, Dishcomm's and Icebergs suggestions, I wanted to verify to all of you that I am indeed connected to the correct LNB and aiming the LNB at the correct satellite. So, instead of messing with foil, I simply hooked the 301 receiver directly to the 110 LNB on the 105 Superdish, ran a check switch and looked at the results.
You can see that the receiver sees the 110 LNB, and in this configuration receives the local channels perfectly with signal strength in the 70's.
Now here's the view of the sky from Davids dish.
Camera was held under the feedhorn arm of the dish at close (best I could do) to the same angle as the dish itself. A few trees to the right, but a nice clear view overall. I'm getting great signals in other locations with far more tree blockage, as you'll see later...
Now here is the metal 105 Dish at Ed's that works perfectly.
Here's Ed's dish's view, taken (as best I could) in the same way as was David's.
Note the much heavier tree blockage - yet this dish gets 110 in the 70's and 119 in the upper 60's! Go figure.
Now check out this side image of Ed's dish:
Some have suggested warpage as the issue with David's dish, yet Ed's is the one with the dent in the edge, trees half blocking the view, and it works great.
At least these pictures will hopefully convince Timberwolf, Dishcomm, and Iceberg that I am indeed working with 105 Super Dishes, and that I am pointing David's dish at 110.
Any thoughts?
Thanks again for all you guys' help and suggestions!
Tim
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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