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TMC1982

Last reply Mar 17, 2011 · posted in The Sports Section

An open letter to ESPN/ABC Sports President George Bodenheimer

It's Time for Some Changes at ESPN --FanHouse

o Milton Kent
o Sports Media Writer

An open letter to ESPN/ABC Sports President George Bodenheimer:

Dear Mr. Bodenheimer,

As the leader of the self-proclaimed "Worldwide Leader in Sports," not to
mention one of the most powerful men in two industries (sports and
broadcasting), you probably think you don't need much advice in running your
company.

Maybe you're right. After all, ESPN is the dominant force in sports media and
has been for a generation. There are literally millions of sports fans who can't
imagine life without your television channels, your radio network, your website,
your magazine, your award shows and your restaurants.

OK, so the restaurants didn't quite work out so well, but that's still an
impressive record of success you have there. You guys have a hand in every nook
and cranny of sports, and it is an extraordinary empire you lord over, to be
sure.

But like every good empire, it's showing signs of decay, signs you might not be
able or willing to detect from your castle in Bristol, Conn. There is growing
unrest among the sports masses, and it's not just coming from the handful of
nattering nabobs of negativism in sports media that don't work for you.

More and more, fans are expressing dissatisfaction not only with your product,
but with how it's delivered. The sense I get from a lot of people is that they
take in your product not because they want to, but because they have to. You
guys are sort of like a utility, in that everyone has to use your services, but
no one's especially thrilled about it. In the long run, that's not where you
want to be.

The phrase "Must See TV," in its best sense, stems from providing shows and
content that consumers take in because they're compelling, not because they're
forced down their throat.

The easy thing for you to do, of course, would be to sit back, watch the profits
roll in, and dismiss the criticism as so much chirping from the uninformed.

It would be easy, but it would also open the door to competition. One of the
more open secrets in the industry is that once the NBC Universal/Comcast merger
goes through, the Versus channel is going to be molded into something that could
go head-to-head with ESPN.

Being the astute leader you are, I'm guessing that you don't want to give anyone
reason to seek out a worthy, well-funded challenger with the distribution of
Comcast, the leading cable operator.

What follows, George (and I can call you George, right?) is a list of changes –
some subtle, some not – that you might consider making at ESPN.

The Decision should have been 'No':

It's been a little over a week since LeBron James made
known his choice to "take his talents to South Beach" with the Miami Heat this
fall. In case you hadn't noticed, his method of delivering The Decision --
namely a one-hour special -- didn't go over so well.

But while James has understandably taken most of the, um, heat, your channel,
which gave him the forum to deliver the news, as it were, has been taking on the
chin too, albeit to a lesser degree.

And while the numbers (10 million viewers) suggest that you did the right thing,
people in your newsroom would tell you that the James special might turn out to
be the most embarrassing moment in the more than 30-year history of ESPN.

How bad was The Decision, from both yours and James' vantage point? Consider
these words, uttered earlier this week: "But this decision was
ill?conceived, barely produced and poorly executed."

That didn't come from a Cleveland columnist or a New York media critic, but from
NBA commissioner David Stern, the ultimate marketer, and while the
"ill-conceived" part clearly was aimed at James, the rest was likely fired right
at your company.

Just to recap: You cannot hand over an hour of time to someone that you cover.
You cannot let that person dictate where the proceeds from that hour will go,
and you cannot let that person make the call on who will interview him.

At some point, George, you, and not one of your lieutenants, need to come
forward and apologize for what happened last Thursday and pledge that, under
your watch, it will never happen again, ratings be damned.

Bring back "SportsCenter":

You say "SportsCenter" never went anywhere? You'd have a hard time convincing
anyone who watched the show in the 1980s or '90s that the current edition has
any connection to what they used to watch, besides the name.

"SportsCenter" is the rock upon which your church is built, the first place, in
theory, where people tune in to find out what happened. However, its reputation
has been sullied by the fact that it too often has become a promotional vehicle
for whatever event is coming up. To wit, the three hours before The Decision.

How about if you stick to news and highlights, get rid of the product-sponsored
segment (a la the "Coors Light Six-Pack") and leave the extraneous
interpretations and commentaries to the sport-intensive shows ("NFL Live,"
"Baseball Tonight," et al)?

Oh, and lose the screaming guitar music beds underneath the highlights. This
ain't MTV.

Lose the attitude:

NFL reporter John Clayton is one of the best in the business, and provides
quality information to viewers/listeners on a regular basis. So, why should such
a respected man be regularly subjected to having someone yell insults at him?

This is standard practice on "SportsCenter" and all the sport-intensive shows,
where every subject becomes a debate topic and the screaming commences between
analysts after the host throws out the question.

It turns those shows into low-rent versions of CNN's "Crossfire," and if we're
lucky, Jon Stewart will come on and kill those shows the way he did that
monstrosity.

Branding is for sodas and cows, not sports channels:

We know that the letters in ESPN don't stand for anything anymore, but that
hasn't stopped some wags from imagining that it means Endlessly Self Promoting
Network.

In hindsight, we should have known that we were in for the relentless
attempt to turn ESPN into a brand 15 years ago when Disney, the ultimate in self
promotion, bought ABC, your parent company.

On the morning the sale was announced, then-Disney CEO Michael Eisner went on
"Good Morning America" to affirm that the most important part of the sale was
ESPN.

In the nearly 12 years since you completed your meteoric rise from the mailroom
to the boardroom, George, you've endorsed the approach to never miss a chance to
hype your company, often attempting to make ESPN more important than the sports
it covers.

For goodness sakes, you wiped out the most prestigious name in sportscasting,
ABC Sports, a name that was home to such revered broadcasters as Jim McKay,
Keith Jackson, Chris Schenkel and Howard Cosell, and replaced it with ESPN's.

This strategy may be smart marketing, but it's wearying, because sports aren't a
commodity like sodas or hamburgers. Or at least they shouldn't be.

Leave the manufacturing to GM or Honda:

Before last Thursday, the previous nadir at ESPN was the November, 2005 days
where former New York Mets general manager Steve Phillips, who currently works
here at FanHouse, pretended to be the GM of different teams and fielded
questions about their respective needs from real reporters.

Come to think of it, that's really no worse than the ESPY Awards, the
annual attempt to marry the red carpet with the red zone, as if the two need to
be joined.

By chance, who was in the meeting when poker was deemed to be a "sport"
warranting extensive time? And why, when the suggestion was made, didn't
someone, preferably you, roll up a newspaper, swat that person on the nose and
say, 'No"?

And then there are the movies and series like "Playmakers", "3", the Yankees'
miniseries, the Pete Rose film and the upcoming Vince Lombardi biopic starring
Robert DeNiro. With all the naturally occurring drama inherent in sports, why do
you perceive the need to create some?

You're not the only game in town. Don't act like you are.

Did you know that the Arena Football League is back in business with games going
on? And did you know that the Chicago Blackhawks recently won the Stanley Cup
for the first time in nearly 50 years?

Fans of both the AFL and the NHL wouldn't be surprised to hear that you didn't
know either fact, given the paucity of their highlights on your air. From the
outside, it appears that if a sport doesn't have a relationship with ESPN, it
doesn't merit a mention.

Oh, and, from a journalist's perspective, there are few more insulting phrases
heard on sports news broadcasts than "ESPN's (fill in name here) has confirmed
that..."

The implication that flows from that statement is that news isn't news unless
ESPN says it is or unless one of its reporters who has been beaten on a story
has caught up. It's really bad form.

Well, George, that's about it from here, There's probably more, but your time is
valuable. There's a house on a block in Uzbekistan that doesn't get ESPN 3-D and
you'll want to do whatever you can to rectify that ASAP.

Do me a favor, though: Just don't forget about keeping your American audience
happy too, huh?

Sincerely,

Your biggest fan

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Hart5150

Jul 24, 2010

The radio side of ESPN I find to be even more excruciatingly unbearable than the TV side. From 6am to 2pm the stupidity of the hosts makes listening feel like butter knives twisting in your eardrums.

Jimbo

Jul 24, 2010

Hart5150 said:
The radio side of ESPN I find to be even more excruciatingly unbearable than the TV side. From 6am to 2pm the stupidity of the hosts makes listening feel like butter knives twisting in your eardrums.

Of course this is WHY they have that Time Slot !

SignGuyDino

Jul 25, 2010

It is always in espn's interest to ignore or run down anything sports related it doesn't broadcast.

Versus won't be a major player unless they get serious parts of major sports programming, or start showing some programming of rugby league or union, and other sports programming. Spike had some not-bad numbers for NRL playoff games and that was with little notice. HD picture was incredible.

I mean, seriously, bull riding? I can see fishing shows on any regional sports network, too.

The main thing I hate about espn is how politically-correct it is. Remember how commentators partially defended Ron Artest for jumping in the crowd when he was hit with a drink, and about 5 minutes later they were all against him? Despite all the bluster of the personalities, when it comes to social issues, do not dare say the non-PC thing. Take the example of how Mike Leach got railroaded out of Texas Tech because Craig James didn't like how Leach treated his drama queen son on the football team, and how incredibly one-sided espn's coverage was.

In fact, I'm tired of social issues being discussed every 5 seconds. Why can't sports just be an escape from the "real world" once in a while?

The only thing that will cause change won't be the threat of competition, but the existance of it.

SignGuyDino

Jul 25, 2010

Hart5150 said:
The radio side of ESPN I find to be even more excruciatingly unbearable than the TV side. From 6am to 2pm the stupidity of the hosts makes listening feel like butter knives twisting in your eardrums.

I actually was listening in the Raleigh/Durham area on espnradio at 1:00 a.m. a few months ago. Heard Bob Valvano (yes, that one) talk detailed on how if the Big 12 imploded how it would change college athletics. Talked about how many sports would have sport-specific conferences like hockey and how college fans value the program's traditions more than the individual players. Really detailed stuff that's over the head from most of the sheeple watching sports today.

TMC1982

Jul 27, 2010

The basic problems with ESPN these days if you ask me, is that number one, without a strong rival or competitor (Versus is not quite there yet, Fox Sports Net is really more of collection of regional sports nets than a strongly concentrated entity, and Turner already tried and failed with CNN/SI), they'll continue to rest on their laurels so to speak. The same sort of thing happened to World Wrestling Entertainment when World Championship Wrestling and Extreme Championship Wrestling went under in the year 2001. Also, ESPN seems more interested in being a "brand name"/marketing machine (a la Coca-Cola) than a viable journalistic source. In a way This is partially why I believe that if ESPN doesn't have a contract with your league (like the NHL at the moment), it's not going to get much press or exposure. This has become even more apparent when Disney came into the fold. ESPN is more interested in being the news and being in bed with pop culture than reporting it. In a way, it's arguable that ESPN has turned into the Fox News (where larger than life personalities, frequently delving into sensationalism, and carving your own personal ends/means take prescience more than anything) and/or MTV of sports television.

And speaking of how Disney helped ruin ESPN:
ESPN: A Requiem in Five Parts

Mets82

Mar 17, 2011

I think all of your opinions are right. Look, ESPN does a great job with College Basketball and College Football. As far as the NBA, I dont watch the NBA so I cant tell you about that. I might be in the minority here but I think showing the Womens Tourney is a great thing for the the womens game to get exposure.

With that being said, I've noticed on a couple of posts people saying that MLB Network has MLB highlights, NFL Network has NFL Highlights etc. so Sportscenter has become passe. I think thats what ESPN WANTS YOU to believe. There thinking is that why should we have extensive highlights when you can get your highlights somewhere else. I think thats a give up attitude on there part. I mean with the competition like NBA TV, MLB Network, NFL Network and NHL Network and the Big Ten Network plus the internet, blogs, tweets etc. you would think ESPN would work even harder to keep there audience. I mean I know there the big dogs and can do what they want but if there was real competition, like Versus or Fox or something like that you would see how fast they would change there toon.

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BlackHitachi

Supporting Founder

Last reply 32 minutes ago · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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osu1991

Saturday at 9:48 PM

Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

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dfergie

Sunday at 8:42 AM

osu1991 said:
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

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"MysteryMan"

Yesterday at 4:39 AM

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harshness

Yesterday at 9:58 AM

dfergie said:
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

dfergie

Yesterday at 10:07 AM

harshness said:
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.

osu1991

Today at 9:56 PM

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3

Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.

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dfergie

32 minutes ago

Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

45 minutes ago · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Paul's Microsoft Build 2026 Takeaways #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ue4NAM2-j90

Direct YouTube Link - Paul's Microsoft Build 2026 Takeaways #shorts
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 59 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Tapatalk Removed

Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

Thanks for your understanding.

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Foxbat

Today at 9:28 AM

Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

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dweber

59 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 9:52 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

XBOX's 2026 Game Plan & Console Comeback

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25hZtsi5420

Direct YouTube Link - XBOX's 2026 Game Plan & Console Comeback
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Peter Parker

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 9:27 PM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Brave Browser for Androud

I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.

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b4pjoe

Today at 7:50 PM

I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker

Today at 9:27 PM

b4pjoe said:
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

View attachment 191721

Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success

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RJT79

Last reply Today at 9:22 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

MLB Extra Innings Issue with DISH

Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Yesterday at 4:59 PM

I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

MyDISH

Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.

my.dish.com

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RJT79

Yesterday at 5:54 PM

zippyfrog said:
I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

MyDISH

Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.

my.dish.com

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Today at 7:01 PM

RJT79 said:
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois

Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Today at 7:38 PM

RJT79 said:
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

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RJT79

Today at 7:41 PM

RJT79 said:
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Today at 9:22 PM

RJT79 said:
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Ill

RJT79 said:
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Final Update... As of 8:08 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026.

I now have MLB Extra Innings back! Look at the photo! (I did not include full image of the game due to copyright)

Let me just say it was rough! Very rough! And lets just say Charlie Ergen should be ashamed of his customer service team and how they handled this whole issue.

After multiple calls after my last post only to get the run around with answers like there are no refunds on MLB Extra Innings once the season starts, to they are working on it, to accessing my screen and sending multi hits to the box.

All I asked was one simple question remove the MLB Extra Innings which they confirmed I had and reauthorize free of charge. I was given a 1,000 reasons why this couldn't be done.

Well..........

I paid for it myself.... $120.00 current rate and it works!

I called back in to let them know what I done and what I thought of the customer service and told them I needed refunded. I was told they didn't do refunds....

Well again I called back and got someone who refunded the original payment of $150.00 back to my account. A $30 discount for all the hard trouble I went though.

It is now up to you all out there that have MLB Extra Innings to try to get them to do this but I am afraid you are going to have to take your own action and purchase again and beg for a refund or be out the $150.00 originally paid.

Persistence pays off. I don't give up very easily.

You can all go here below to make the purchase if you have any trouble.

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

I hope it all works well for you! And best of luck to everyone who has it!

I will still be around on this forum. You all sound like a fine group of people! I hope I can contribute more.

Take care!

RJ T.
From Illinois

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"Bonus View" Channel List

I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.

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Easy come, easy go- can't count on anything.

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2 Bonus View channels removed today:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.

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tparker

Today at 6:10 PM

One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.

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Today at 6:26 PM

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One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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A dandilion by any other name.

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