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i have a set up a c-band satellite dish, the only signal i have is the signal intensity which is 81%, and signal quality is 1%. tried to change the azimuth and elevation based on dishpointer.com but didn't change the signal quality.

what can i do to increase the signal quality

thxs
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i have a set up a c-band satellite dish, the only signal i have is the signal intensity which is 81%, and signal quality is 1%. tried to change the azimuth and elevation based on dishpointer.com but didn't change the signal quality.

what can i do to increase the signal quality

thxs

Signal quality is based on:

1) How well the dish is tuned to the satellite it needs to aim at
2) How well the lnb/lnbf picks up that exacting signal the dish is receiving
3) How well the receiver tunes with it's supplied parameters, such as correct SR setting, etc. for the channel it wants to tune.
4) The channel being sent from the provider depends on the amount of bandwidth it uses, and it's combo of signal "qualifiers", which is then transmitted, and affects how quickly it can be scanned or picked up with a quality reading. which is a part of "signal quality"; these are the video/audio program (PID/AID) numbers, whcih uniqely identify...

Therefore, without quality, no picture will show.

A good installation tool for you might be a digital/programmable satellite meter. These meters allow the technician to programme the satellite wanted into the meter, then they can aim for that "one satellite" and "one quality" that their client needs...

Your problem sounds like the dish needs to be aimed to the exact satellite your receiver is set on to receive, that is, use you receiver as your metering device for the satellite in question by setting up the channel manually to tune one tuning selection. Check for other transponders on the satellite, a second transponder can be easier to find and make tunig your dish a little easier at first, then tune for max on the channel/channels you want.
Other possibilities are that the channel/channels have moved recently, changed a parameter, or are not compatible with the kind of receiver you are using, because they do change "formats" occasionally, or on command by contracting with those "other" companies for inclusionary reasoning.:rolleyes:
Skyscanner
Quality = picture, which is really what we're intersted in. Rich and BJ have it right but #1 What bird are you aiming at? #2 Do you have the bird in your installaton menu? #3 Do you have a known hot transponder freq, polarity, and symbol rate programmed in? Go to The LIst and find one. #4 Are the settings [LNB Freq, type, power, etc] for your LNB correct? #5 Get your receiver and monitor on site. #6 Align your dish to the Azimuth, Elevation, and skew for the bird you want. #7 Go to "manual scan" menu of the bird you want in your receiver, make sure the bird, hot transponder, freq, polarity, and symbol rate are in display. #8 GRADUALLY move your dish while watching the signal and quality "meter". Understand that 1 degree of movement on earth = about 400 miles at satellite distance, it doesn't take much to be way off. #9 Watch both SIGNAL and Quality. In most cases, signal will DECREASE the CLOSER you get to a satellite, and INCREASE the FURTHER you are away [the opposite of quality]. The difference is slight, may be only a percent or 2, so watch close. When you swing your dish east or west, and you see a dip in signal, that means you are close to a bird, but it may not be the 1 you want. When the SIGNAL is lowest, adjust elevation also looking for lowest signal and if you are as close as you think you are, the quality might pop up. If it doesn't, you may be pointed at a neighboring bird. Sometimes when the SIGNAL shows the minimum after fine adjustment for AZ and EL, a blind scan can be done, even tyhough no QUALITY shows, and if channels show up, they can be compared to The LIst to determine what bird you have hit and you can adjust east or west to get where you want. Some might disagree with me on the information I gave you on SIGNAL, but it has proven reliable for me. Anyone who has a motorized dish can see the fluctuations in SIGNAL [and of course quality] when their dish swings, and can see the signal is highest between birds. Good luck
B.J.
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#3 Do you have a known hot transponder freq, polarity, and symbol rate programmed in? Go to The LIst and find one.
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Assuming that "au" means Australia, he might be better off looking at Lyngsat, because there isn't anything in the list visible from Australia. But maybe au means something else.

...... In most cases, signal will DECREASE the CLOSER you get to a satellite, and INCREASE the FURTHER you are away [the opposite of quality]. The difference is slight, may be only a percent or 2, so watch close. When you swing your dish east or west, and you see a dip in signal, that means you are close to a bird,....
I have seen behavior like this occasionally on Ku when there are strong DBS sats nearby, but I think in general I've observed signal strength increasing when closer to the sats, particularly on C-band. Of course that could depend on specific receivers or meters, which can behave differently. In general I usually ignore signal strength readings from DVB receivers because they aren't very sensitive to change, and sometimes can give misleading behavior.
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BJ
I agree wholeheartedly, not every situation is going to be the same for everyone, just saying it has been reliable for me. If the OP is from Oz, who knows what that would mean. Can you imagine pointing North to get Q? How weird is that?
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Signal

i have 2.3m motor satellite, adjusted elevation azimuth and LNB by satellite finder to maximum signal which i can get.

when i connect to the SONYSTAR receiver through DISEQC positioner, comes up with test(c) 00l test 1(h) and a black square it says 'no signal'. when i go to add channel it comes up with this:

satellite :test(c)
TP:2/3
TP freq: 03940
symbol rate: 05950
polarity:V
search:free
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signal intensity: 67%
signal quality: 1%
signal status unlocked : 0/1000000

when i go to search
test(c)
LNB freq 09750
symbol rate: 05950
trans freq: 03940
polarity: V

all the numbers are defaulted

question is why don't i have a signal and how can i set up to use Asia SAT 2 or Asia SAT3s or any Asia SAT, also how can i get all those numbers like LNB freq, Trans freq etc and how to put them in.

thanks
Skyscanner
Infr3kted,
One possible problem I see is that it looks like you are trying to get C band and your lnb freq is 9750. Try 5150 if C band is what you are trying to rx. Not familiar with your particular receiver, but they all have a satellite installation menu that allows you to change those values. If you don't have the manual, you'll just have to experiment. Go to or search for http://www.lyngsat.com/Free TV from Australia to see what satellites have signals in the clear that are viewable from your location. According to Lyngsat, most of the TV viewable in Australia is KU band, but there are some C sats. For example if you wanted to see what's on Intelsat 8, click on it and what's available free will be light tan in color and have an "F" in the grid. If you were to want BBC News for example, it will show the TP freq at 3940, horizontal polarity, and a symbol rate of 27690. If that's the bird you want, program those into your installation menu in the appropriate place. The grid will also give you the PIDs, but until you get QUALITY, they won't matter to you if at all, as when you lock the signal QUALITY, your receiver downloads all that information when it installs the channels. If the Asiasats are viewable from your location, you should be able to get the look angle for your area from an online satellite locator. As Rich mentioned, try to find 1 that gives the "magnetic deviation" for your area because that can be several degrees off and every 1 degree at your dish = about 400 miles at satellite distance in space. It doesn't take much to be way off.
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Signal quality is based on:

1) How well the dish is tuned to the satellite it needs to aim at
2) How well the lnb/lnbf picks up that exacting signal the dish is receiving
3) How well the receiver tunes with it's supplied parameters, such as correct SR setting, etc. for the channel it wants to tune.
4) The channel being sent from the provider depends on the amount of bandwidth it uses, and it's combo of signal "qualifiers", which is then transmitted, and affects how quickly it can be scanned or picked up with a quality reading. which is a part of "signal quality"; these are the video/audio program (PID/AID) numbers, whcih uniqely identify...

5) Dish Size
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
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Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
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owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) -- Tex Williams
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Don't Do Me Like That - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
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I LIKE It LIKE THAT-The Dave Clark Five
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Some wild inflation and significant uptick in earthquake activity in the caldera. Magma intrusion, could lead to new fissure(s). Or not.

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Summary: A shallow intrusion of magma is occurring within the summit region near the existing eruption location in Hawai'i Volcanoes National Park.

Activity Summary: Earthquake activity has increased in the summit region of Kīlauea beneath Halemaʻumaʻu crater and the south caldera region. Ground deformation patterns recorded by summit tiltmeters suggest that magma is intruding beneath the ground in this area, in an east-west orientation, near the western or southern part of Halemaʻumaʻu crater.

Increased earthquake activity began this afternoon, September 30, 2026, at approximately 2 p.m. HST, underneath Halemaʻumaʻu. Since then, about 40 earthquakes have been detected and activity is still on-going. The largest event, so far, a magnitude 3.4 earthquake, occurred at 9:52 p.m. HST, 1.4 km (0.9 miles) beneath the surface in the northeast part of Halemaʻumaʻu. Starting around 8 p.m. HST., summit tiltmeters began to show extremely rapid changes consistent with crack growth in an east-west orientation possible near the current vent area, suggesting that magma is intruding in this region.

Historically, east-west trending fissures have erupted in the southeastern part of Halemaʻumaʻu and extending through the Keanakākoʻi crater area all the way to Chain of Craters Road near Lua Manu. The last east-west fissure in this area erupted in September 2023 and extended from the middle of Halemaʻumaʻu to the eastern wall just beneath the Keanakākoʻi overlook. An event of this type is also possible under current conditions.

Currently, there are no signs of a change at the surface as the existing eruptive vent complex in Halemaʻumaʻu, including the north and south vents, continue to intermittently spatter with strong glow and flames; however, conditions could change quickly. It is possible that this event ends without reaching the surface or it produces a fissure eruption in a new location within the summit caldera region.
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View: https://youtu.be/tv37YPVfHME


Gemini summary:

In this video from Shawn Willsey: Geology Explained, geology professor Shawn Willsey details rapid subsurface and surface changes at Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii:
  • Signs of a Magma Intrusion (Dike): Summit tiltmeters recorded an unprecedented, rapid inflation spike of around 45 microradians [04:00 Opens in a new window ], accompanied by a dramatic surge of over 100 shallow earthquakes within 24 hours (peaking at a magnitude 3.4) [01:44 Opens in a new window ]. The deformation indicates that magma is intruding in an east-west orientation beneath the southern caldera/Halemaʻumaʻu region [01:16 Opens in a new window ].

  • No Rift Zone Migration: Tilt and seismic data confirm magma is remaining confined to the summit area rather than traveling down the East Rift Zone [02:40 Opens in a new window ].

  • Structural Pathways: Willsey notes that pre-existing faults and fractures expanded during the 2018 caldera collapse [08:32 Opens in a new window ]. Because these fracture zones remain unsealed, magma can move and mobilize toward the surface much faster than before [10:17 Opens in a new window ].

  • Potential Outcomes: The intrusion could stall underground without erupting, or it could feed a new east-west fissure eruption inside the summit caldera, similar to the September 2023 event [02:47 Opens in a new window ].

  • Shift to Dome Overflows: Webcam footage from overnight reveals repeated pulses of fluid lava overflowing the spatter cone at the North Vent [11:42 Opens in a new window ]. Occurring roughly every 20 to 50 minutes and lasting several minutes each [12:36 Opens in a new window ], these cyclic overflows suggest Kīlauea may be transitioning away from high-fountaining episodes toward regular surface overflows [14:54 Opens in a new window ].

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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
KAB
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...
Anony55
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.

They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.

Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.

On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.

It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.

I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Nebugeater
Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
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Got a 211k that works fine, and I no longer need it if someone wants to throw me a few bucks and pay shipping. Not tied to my account as of last week. Used with a tailgater and got a wally
Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.
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Is the 211k still available? If so, I'm interested.


Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Anony55
Well, after nine months of being on pause, I finally figured out that I was wasting $5 a month. So I cancelled. For the first time since 2010, I no longer have a Dish account.

I do have to say that I did appreciate the account pause option. That just gives a person some time to see what the fallout of cancelling will be... without having to go all the way over the cliff first.

Since I never once had an "oh shoot, I need Dish Network for..." moment, the decision was a lot easier.

Funny enough, when I called to cancel (for real, not playing the pricing game), all of a sudden, they were offering me deals that I was told before that I couldn't get without changing out my VIP211k. Now, I could have had those specials with them just sending me a new card for the receiver. LOL!

Of course, my mind was already made up because of having not missed the service while on pause. That, and the fact that I bet the 211k still kills recordings.

All in all, I'm glad that I had Dish for all those years. I just outgrew the need, and they pressed the issue by deleting recordings. I would have eventually went this route without the deleted recordings issue. But, for sure, that did hasten the outcome.

I'll still pop in at this site from time to time. Believe it or not, I still have a C/Ku BUD that I intend on playing with again if life ever slows down.
dishstaller
Actually, it is. A couple of people PMed me when I posted this, and when I asked for an address, they never responded. Then I just sort of let it go. Send me a PM to continue the discussion
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
Anony55
Unless things have changed at Dish, which is entirely possible, they won't activate the 211, even as a replacement. I gave one to a customer a while back....which when I turned it off I made sure to tell the CSR I wanted it freed up so another customer could use it, I was assured it was.....and when they called to swap out there's they were told it couldn't be done. Now like I said, things MIGHT HAVE CHANGED.
It hasn't changed. When I cancelled my service the other day, they told me I didn't need to return the receiver (which I already knew because I purchased it).

But in addition to that, the young man told me not to sell it, but to take it to a recycling place. The reason he gave for the advice was because 211Ks can no longer be activated.

So as far as the VIP211k goes... once grandpa dies, he's dead.
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They tell you to trash it and not to sell simply because they're phasing them out, not particularly because someone might be "confused" into buying it and not be able to activate. They tell people that in every case where they're not acting to get a box back, either from a replacement or service cancel.
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Although my VIP211K hasn't been subscribed or connected to a dish in probably 5 years since canceling service, my 1 TB HDD full of programming still works fine.

Upon occasion I power it up to watch something I recorded as far back as 2010. The last time I had it going in September it even let me rescan the local OTA channels which I think it refused at some earlier time. I will use it until the day it fails but this topic makes me think some software download is responsible for current subscribers.
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