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james1937

Last reply Aug 4, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

No signal

My daughter is having trouble with her dish tv. She thinks the cables or cable may have a short. She has two of the twin receivers with 4 tv's (for her boys). She switched one receiver to the tv's not working and it still does not have a signal. I don't have the rg6 cables but do have rg59. Would the rg59 be ok JUST to check to see if this is the problem?
You may comment on what other things may be the problem. Open to all suggestions.
She is a single mom with limited income and don't want to pay a service tech to come out and that is why I am trying to help.

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Andrewwski

Jul 31, 2010

Definitely something between the LNB or switch and the receiver that isn't working.

What are the model numbers of each receiver? Also, on each receiver (working and not), go to Menu>6>1>1 (Signal Meter), then go up and run a check switch test. Post the results here - will give some information that can help give a better clue as to what the problem is.

james1937

Aug 1, 2010

Andrewwski said:
Definitely something between the LNB or switch and the receiver that isn't working.

What are the model numbers of each receiver? Also, on each receiver (working and not), go to Menu>6>1>1 (Signal Meter), then go up and run a check switch test. Post the results here - will give some information that can help give a better clue as to what the problem is.

The model number on both receivers is 322 dual receivers.

She ran the switch test and it ran ok on second "Good receiver" for both sat1 and sat2
But when she ran the switch test on the "bad receiver" the test ran up to 38 on both sat1 and sat2 and came back with this message:

Warning 836 The check switch test has found you have fewer satellites than previously detected. Selecting "save" will result in a loss of channels. Press "cancel" to keep the original setting and return to the previous menu. Only select :save" if you are sure that this new setting is correct for your installation or you have (the sentence ended there).

She changed all cables at the "bad receiver" and also the one to the wall but did not help.

If she has a bad LNB who is responsible for the repair? Could it be possible that the separator or diplexer at the "bad receiver" is bad? Depending on your answer to the last question I will remove my separator and diplexer and put it on hers to see if that resolves the problem. (Just didn't want to go to the trouble of removing them unnecessarily.

whatchel1

Aug 1, 2010

DPP

james1937 said:
The model number on both receivers is 322 dual receivers.

She ran the switch test and it ran ok on second "Good receiver" for both sat1 and sat2
But when she ran the switch test on the "bad receiver" the test ran up to 38 on both sat1 and sat2 and came back with this message:

Warning 836 The check switch test has found you have fewer satellites than previously detected. Selecting "save" will result in a loss of channels. Press "cancel" to keep the original setting and return to the previous menu. Only select :save" if you are sure that this new setting is correct for your installation or you have (the sentence ended there).

She changed all cables at the "bad receiver" and also the one to the wall but did not help.

If she has a bad LNB who is responsible for the repair? Could it be possible that the separator or diplexer at the "bad receiver" is bad? Depending on your answer to the last question I will remove my separator and diplexer and put it on hers to see if that resolves the problem. (Just didn't want to go to the trouble of removing them unnecessarily.

Do you have the Dish Protection Plan? If you do it will cost 15 if not somewhere near 100 to get a tech out there. I does sound like bad LNB or switch so far.

scoobyxj

Aug 1, 2010

First switch receivers if the problem follows the receiver then receiver is bad.
If problem is still in same location try switching the wires coming down from the dish at the ground block (Unless the coax from the dish is damaged this will determine if the LNB has a bad port.).
Then try switching each component sep for know working one DPX for known good one. You can actually remove the DPX , and connect the coax directly to the separator to test (you just wouldn't have a TV2 signal). Same deal with the outside/basement DPX just connect the coax running to the receiver to the GND block.

Andrewwski

Aug 2, 2010

If it runs up to 38, it didn't find any Dish Pro or Dish Pro Plus equipment, thus it is looking for legacy switches.

Since you mention separators, I'd imagine she has a Dish Pro Plus LNB (on a Dish 500) with one run from it to each receiver.

Yes, a bad separator or diplexer could cause it. That would be the first thing that I would try.

If that's not it, it's either the cable between the LNB and diplexer or the LNB itself. Switch the cables on the LNB - if the problem switches to the other room, it's the LNB. If not, have you tried a new section of cable all the way from the LNB to the diplexer (not just from a wallplate)?

james1937

Aug 4, 2010

I just wanted to let you know that "we" found the problem with your help and the help of my daughter. She kept saying she thought it was in the two silver shining boxes on the back of the tv. But we did not have a replacement. I tried to switch the cables at the ground block....no cigar. I checked all the runs in the attic and did not see anything that looked troublesome. I had just about given up and was getting my tools and cables up to leave and she said she had a long rg59 cable from a previous installation. I checked and it was long enough to reach from the ground block to the receiver. Well, I plugged it in and it seem to download programs but no pic. Daughter still insist it was the bright shiny boxes on the back of the receiver. So after reading the many post here she got up and took the diplexor out of the circuit and hooked it to the separator. To make a story shorter...it worked. So she immediately order a new diplexor.
Now I am the blunt of her jokes. She said she was adding Dish network Tech to her resume, Ha. She was one happy camper.
Thanks to all who responded.
James1937

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osu1991

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USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

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After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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b4pjoe

Today at 3:49 PM

osu1991 said:
Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?

vazhog

Today at 4:05 PM

that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

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osu1991

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b4pjoe said:
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?

Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.

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meStevo

Today at 4:52 PM

vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.

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dishstaller

Today at 5:05 PM

meStevo said:
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."

That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

- California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
- Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
- Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
- New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
- Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
- Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
- Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

meStevo

Today at 5:55 PM

dishstaller said:
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]

Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]

Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]

New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]

Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]

Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]

Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.

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I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

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I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

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