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Last reply Aug 9, 2010 · posted in The Dish Network Uplink Center (archive)

8/5/2010 3:05am - Uplink Activity Report - 49 changes

SatelliteGuys.US DishNetwork Uplink Activity Report - 8/5/2010 3:05am - 49 changes

Uplink Comparison Range: 08/05/2010 02:49A - 08/05/2010 03:05A

Channel Additions:
5250(7) - WVII [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-ABC) (NA)
5251(5) - WABI [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-CBS) (NA)
5252(2) - WLBZ [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-NBC) (NA)
5253(22) - WFVX [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-FOX) (NA)
5254(12) - WMEB [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Orono, ME-PBS) (NA)
8097(19) - WABID [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Mkt:Bangor, ME-Bangor, ME-CW) (NA)
5250(29) - WGTU [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Traverse City, MI-ABC) (NA)
5251(9) - WWTV [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Cadillac, MI-CBS) (NA)
5252(7) - WPBN [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Traverse City, MI-NBC) (NA)
5253(33) - WFQX [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Cadillac, MI-FOX) (NA)
5254(27) - WCMV [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Cadillac, MI-PBS) (NA)
5260(13) - WHAM [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-ABC) (NA)
5261(8) - WROC [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-CBS) (NA)
5262(10) - WHEC [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-NBC) (NA)
5263(31) - WUHF [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-FOX) (NA)
5264(21) - WXXI [MPEG4 HD] added to Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Mkt:Rochester, NY-Rochester, NY-PBS) (NA)
5150(16) - WNEP [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Scranton, PA-ABC) (NA)
5151(22) - WYOU [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Scranton, PA-CBS) (NA)
5152(28) - WBRE [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Wilkes-barre, PA-NBC) (NA)
5153(56) - WOLF [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Hazleton, PA-FOX) (NA)
9249(38) - WSWB [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Scranton, PA-CW) (NA)
9250(53) - WQMY [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Williamsport, PA-MY) (NA)
9251(44) - WVIA [MPEG4 SD] added to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Mkt:Wilkes Barre, PA-Scranton, PA-PBS) (NA)

Channel Removals:
4861 - VCT1 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4862 - VCT2 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4863 - VCT3 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4864 - VCT4 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4865 - VCT5 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4866 - VCT6 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4867 - VCT7 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
4868 - VCT8 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam
6804 - UP7 (NA) [MPEG2 SD] removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 32 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)
6822 - UP5 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from Echostar12 61.5W TP 17 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)
6826 - UP6 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)
6846 - UP11 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 26 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)
6847 - UP11 (NA) [MPEG4 HD] removed from EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Virtual Channel)

Channel Moves:
4150 - SPEED [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Speed TV) (A) (H)
5344 - SPEED [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Speed TV) (A) (H)
5944 - TP204 [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (NA)
9452 - HBOZ [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Ooffice Zone) (A) (H)
9453 - HBOFM [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Office Family) (A) (H)
9454 - HBOSG [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Office Signature) (A) (H)
9459 - HBOLT [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Office Latino) (A) (H)
9468 - SPEED [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Speed TV) (A)
9478 - HBO-W [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Home Box Office (West)) (A) (H)
9486 - STZC [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Starz Comedy) (A) (H)
9497 - SK&FM [MPEG4 HD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (Starz Kids & Family) (A) (H)
9587 - LTD7 [MPEG4 SD] moved from Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam to EchoStar6 61.5W TP 28 ConUS beam (NA)

Transponder Changes:
Echostar12 61.5W TP 24 ConUS beam 21500 8PSK 2/3 removed

Channels in the system: 7508
(A) = Available to subscribers
(NA) = Not Available
(H) = Hidden from non-subscribers
(FP) = Free Preview

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Mr Tony

Aug 7, 2010

from the FCC info

digital 25...575Kw 199m
analog 2...51Kw same height...so about 1/2 the power of a "normal" full powered station (analog 2-6 was 100kw max)
digital 2....3000 watts at 192m

They should have stayed on UHF...the power they put out would travel farther than the VHF would. I'm shocked they went back to digital 2 as VHF low is BAD for digital....very few stations did it.
Reason is low-band VHF signals are more prone to interference from atmospheric conditions than higher channel numbers

drdroo

Aug 7, 2010

Seems stupid to me.

Our FOX station received Digital Flash Cut permission in Sept of last year (They applied in April 2008 I believe) and still seems to have no public plan to move to UHF 22.

I'm really curious what the standard for this thing is with other stations (they were low power analog and weren't forced to go digital). Their construction permit ends next year though.

mike123abc

Aug 7, 2010

Iceberg said:
from the FCC info

digital 25...575Kw 199m
analog 2...51Kw same height...so about 1/2 the power of a "normal" full powered station (analog 2-6 was 100kw max)
digital 2....3000 watts at 192m

They should have stayed on UHF...the power they put out would travel farther than the VHF would. I'm shocked they went back to digital 2 as VHF low is BAD for digital....very few stations did it.
Reason is low-band VHF signals are more prone to interference from atmospheric conditions than higher channel numbers

That is really surprising. Why would they give up a 575kw UHF transmitter for a 3kw VHF one? I wonder if they are doing it just to hold the spectrum and rely on cable/satellite instead of paying a high electric bill. It probably saves them $30k/month in electricity. VHF-Lo also has bad multipathing issues too, very poor choice.

Mr Tony

Aug 7, 2010

drdroo said:
Seems stupid to me.

Our FOX station received Digital Flash Cut permission in Sept of last year (They applied in April 2008 I believe) and still seems to have no public plan to move to UHF 22.

I'm really curious what the standard for this thing is with other stations (they were low power analog and weren't forced to go digital). Their construction permit ends next year though.

They are a subchannel on ABC from what I see. Seems like thats what stations are doing when they own more than one station and one is on analog. They just keep it analog and piggyback it as a subchannel on the "main" network

Mr Tony

Aug 7, 2010

mike123abc said:
VHF-Lo also has bad multipathing issues too, very poor choice.

I agree...at least if they wanted to stay VHF use a VHF Hi station for digital.

Its probably a market that relies mainly on cable & satellite. Looking at the market there are a couple "thundersticks" power wise
This one we've talked about
PBS goes from 316Kw to 15Kw (they stayed on VHF Hi)
ABC goes from 316Kw to 14Kw

Thats just crazy

Bobby

Aug 7, 2010

VHF travels much further on much less wattage then UHF. KGO, San Francisco operates on channel 7 and transmits at 23.8kw. I get it very strongly, as well as any of the UHF stations, 50 miles away. It's not crazy at all, it's transmission theory, and of course, economics. VHF is much cheaper to transmit than UHF.

tjwgrr

Aug 9, 2010

[5254(27) - WCMV [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar3 61.5W TP 18 ConUS beam (Mkt:Traverse City, MI-Cadillac, MI-PBS) (NA)

I see TC got PBS HD. Why can't the larger markets get it?????

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telebiker

Last reply A moment ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.

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Almighty1

Mar 14, 2026

tanman shows the Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. The Hopper 3 connected to Hopper Plus has a different screen which for me does not have Amazon Alexa either, probably because with the Hopper Plus connected, the DISH Settings is actually an app on the Hopper Plus.

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KAB

Mar 15, 2026

Almighty1 said:
tanman shows the Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. The Hopper 3 connected to Hopper Plus has a different screen which for me does not have Amazon Alexa either, probably because with the Hopper Plus connected, the DISH Settings is actually an app on the Hopper Plus.

Yep, I got a Joey 4 (designed to work with H Plus) and no Alexa iconl

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HipKat

Mar 15, 2026

Guys,
Android is Google. Google is Android. Android OS and Google TV are the same thing.
The Hopper+ and Joey 4's run Android TV, which is Google's television version of Android.
That means under the hood, you have:

Linux kernel
Android framework
Google TV / Android TV interface
Google Play Store for TV apps

Alexa is the competition. Google is not going to host their competition.
The old Hopper Carbon UI is NOT Google so that's why Alexa was on there.

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Harryhaggle

Mar 18, 2026

Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.

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navychop

Mar 18, 2026

Ungood.

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reubenray

A moment ago

What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

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cpdretired

Supporting Founder

Last reply 6 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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Darrell S

Yesterday at 3:21 PM

I tried on Hopper last night. Many more offers than the website has. I even got 3 free months of Gallery. Only offered 1 month on website

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 4:35 PM

I got Starz/Encore again for 50% off for 3 months yesterday.

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reubenray

49 minutes ago

Darrell S said:
I tried on Hopper last night. Many more offers than the website has. I even got 3 free months of Gallery. Only offered 1 month on website

How do I check for offers on my H3? My contract runs out in January.

OH - how about them Tigers!!

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Darrell S

26 minutes ago

reubenray said:
How do I check for offers on my H3? My contract runs out in January.

OH - how about them Tigers!!

You have to find my account in the settings. Only works if you're connected to internet.

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reubenray

6 minutes ago

Darrell S said:
You have to find my account in the settings. Only works if you're connected to internet.

Thanks, I found it. I have no offers.

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TVHabit

Last reply 6 minutes ago · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Hybrid Dish setup

Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...

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Titanium

Tuesday at 5:10 PM

Yes, many have hacked a DirecTV or Dish Network dish before. Quite undersized, but would receive the 97w KU stations with an LNBF swap. Make a template to set the LNBF face angle and distance from the reflector. Remove the current circular polarity LNBFs and make a bracket to hold the replacement linear LNBF in the correct centered position. Remember to set the polarity skew.

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Brct203

Tuesday at 9:07 PM

would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow

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one_db_compression

Tuesday at 10:22 PM

If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.

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TVHabit

6 minutes ago

I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...

meStevo

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 12 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

AI thread

A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.

Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.

View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k

We've literally got a movie already about this

View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc

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meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point. Nobody needs an innovative fix for a driver error or a creative way to format a report. Let it handle the solved problems so people can spend their time on the ones that aren't.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point.

That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

Addressed by what you didn't quote. This cycle is as old as computing: compilers, libraries, frameworks each automated the tedious part, and the human work moved up a level. Innovation didn't end; it shifted. And people still make new compilers, libraries or frameworks.

Nobody's forced to hand anything off. Anyone who wants to keep doing it by hand still can, and people who couldn't do it at all now can.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
... and people who couldn't do it at all now can.

Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.

You're not wrong, but that's part of learning. Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.

I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

Good thing not everyone will have to learn the hard way then. The same tools can explain why something broke.

harshness said:
There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

This is true of literally anything, though.

Happy to agree to disagree, but I'm already enjoying the dividends personally and helping others at work and at home do the same.

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harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
This is true of literally anything, though.

Do you think that means we ought to be supporting it as the long-term solution?

Foxbat

Monday at 11:01 PM

Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:36 PM

Oops.

AI Agent Blamed for Deleting Entire Upcoming Season of TV Show

An AI agent reportedly deleted the entire final cut of the upcoming season of a Swedish reality competition show.

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dishstaller

12 minutes ago

Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 21 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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long_time_Dish

Today at 12:37 AM

Down On My Knees - Bread

hwkn

Today at 2:34 AM

DOWN ON Me-Jackyl

ClarkGable

Today at 4:41 AM

Down By The Lazy River - The Osmonds

FTA4PA

59 minutes ago

Down On The Corner - Creedence Clearwater Revival

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dishstaller

21 minutes ago

Mississippi Squirrel Revival - Ray Stevens

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Ramy

Supporting Founder

Last reply Today at 6:19 AM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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osu1991

Monday at 10:13 AM

View: https://youtu.be/HjQO7IWmC50?is=JrnzyTNTv5MoX24u

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osu1991

Monday at 9:37 PM

View: https://youtu.be/Dj-pH4x_Z1Q?is=CHrZoqR0K3GnQb35

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Yespage

Thursday at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Thursday at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Thursday at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

Thursday at 9:12 PM

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

Thursday at 9:24 PM

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

Thursday at 9:27 PM

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

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Jimbo

Thursday at 10:07 PM

AZ. said:
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

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meStevo

Friday at 6:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one

Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 7:45 PM

osu1991 said:
View: https://youtu.be/Dj-pH4x_Z1Q?is=CHrZoqR0K3GnQb35

Down Goes the SEC

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:17 PM

osu1991 said:

They ought to have fun with this… :devilish

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osu1991

Yesterday at 10:14 PM

Foxbat said:
They ought to have fun with this…

Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call

reubenray

Today at 6:19 AM

A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.

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brittanygarden

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Today at 6:15 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Are you experiencing an issue with your 3rd party remote since the newest Hopper update?

Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.

If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.

Thanks!
Brittany

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bookworm370

Monday at 9:50 AM

I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!

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GRB1959

Monday at 10:31 AM

bookworm370 said:
I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!

Excellent suggestion.

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Foxbat

Tuesday at 6:49 PM

I think I have a separate issue with our Hopper 3 when watching/recording a 4K event. I have had many instances of it spontaneously restarting when I "disturbed" it during a 4K event. I learned to not touch the remote after a given point.

But it might be the IR code subroutine and 4K that make it touchy. I'll try it Wednesday night during the NLCS Game 3.

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JeffN9

Tuesday at 7:14 PM

Foxbat said:
I think I have a separate issue with our Hopper 3 when watching/recording a 4K event. I have had many instances of it spontaneously restarting when I "disturbed" it during a 4K event. I learned to not touch the remote after a given point.

But it might be the IR code subroutine and 4K that make it touchy. I'll try it Wednesday night during the NLCS Game 3.

I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.

A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won

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bookworm370

Yesterday at 3:13 PM

GRB1959 said:
Excellent suggestion.

Yea, I've only been a CIO for the last 30 years!

Trust me, when something important breaks, they get to own it!

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Astroman3427

Yesterday at 7:20 PM

Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.

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long_time_Dish

Today at 12:39 AM

Astroman3427 said:
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July. <-----|

Absolutely!!!---------------------------------------------|

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reubenray

Today at 6:15 AM

Astroman3427 said:
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.

I got 713 a few days ago and nothing has changed concerning the IR/RF remote issues.

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Peter Parker

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 6:14 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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BatStang2000

Yesterday at 1:29 PM

This happened to me. I was outside mowing and my wife came out and said that our nieces and nephews were going to be on the Noon News. She had it on in the bedroom on our Joey3. Since they weren't on yet, I decided to turn it on in the Living Room on our Hopper3. When I selected the channel (through Dish, not OTA) the Joey3 turned itself off. When I went back to the bedroom to turn it back on, the Hopper3 did a reboot. Luckily it all finished before their story came on, but I just found it strange.

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bookworm370

Yesterday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:40 PM

I got the 713 update yesterday.

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naptime

Today at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Today at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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Ham Radio 2.0

Today at 3:12 AM · posted in Ham Radio 2.0

The Truth About Cheap CB Radios for Off-Grid Travel

Time for another AWESOME video from Ham Radio 2.0!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5qI_-JKD8

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JohnGalt1234

Last reply Today at 12:02 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

H3 EHD lists upcoming airings instead of recordings on EHD and often won't recognize EHD is connected after reboot

This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).

On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 6:55 PM

Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.

At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.

This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.

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JohnGalt1234

Yesterday at 6:55 PM

Sorry about dupe images... having a heck of a time trying to post an image of other H3 that my gf text to me.

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JohnGalt1234

Yesterday at 6:56 PM

JohnGalt1234 said:
Sorry about dupe images... having a heck of a time trying to post an image of other H3 that my gf text to me.

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JohnGalt1234

Yesterday at 7:00 PM

Almighty1 said:
Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.

At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.

View attachment 194853

This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.

The image I just sent for master H3 is on hopper+., casino is not but both Vs and bootstraps are the same.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:18 PM

JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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JohnGalt1234

Yesterday at 9:02 PM

Almighty1 said:
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

View attachment 194857

As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.

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Almighty1

Today at 12:02 AM

JohnGalt1234 said:
As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.

It is not just a display signal as explained above. When you have the Hopper+ connected, it uses Android TV for pretty much everything except for the satellite signal which is why it uses the DISH app for the standard Hopper 3 functions. But that should not matter because in your case, CasinoH3 is the Hopper 3 with the EHD which is what you call the naughty one based on the dates you mentioned and Master Bedroom which has the Hopper Plus connected to the Hopper 3 that does not have the problem. So one way to test the theory is disconnect the Hopper Plus from that Hopper 3 and then use the EHD's connected to CasinoH3 currently to see if the same issue exists. That way you will know if the problem is there without a Hopper Plus connected or if CasinoH3 is just a bad hopper to begin with.

Normally when you disconnect the Hopper Plus, it will be 30 minutes or more before you can use the Hopper 3 again.

What you want to do is:
hold the POWER button in, not the red reset button, for about 45 seconds or so while disconnecting the power to the Plus and moving the HDMI cable and it will reboot to the normal Hopper only immediately.

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