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Claude Greiner said:

Its almost as bad as the "Gold" plated RG59 cables that Radio Shack sells.

The worst ones are the customers who buy a $400 Vizio TV and then spend $79 on an HDMI cable. The problem is the TV, NOT the cable!

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The husband of my wife's friend did just that, except he only paid $50.00 for the cable. This was after having a number of discussions between him & me, and me telling him repeatedly that all my HDMI and other cables were purchased through MonoPrice.com. But he's one of those people that will eat up anything a salesperson will tell him and believe it.

This BS about upper price cables being the best reminds me back to when I would help my friends pick out audio systems. Back in the 70's/80's, there were a few "Audio Stores" in Chicago that were specialty shops ( not like the Best Buys Or CC). Anyway, you would go into there "Listening Room" and they would let you sit down in a nice, comfortable chair, and then play different sound systems for you. All they needed to do was press a button on the console and and you could hear whichever system you wanted. The thing that most people didn't realize, is that they had the volume turned slightly up on the more expensive systems to make it sound more impressive and clearer. Of course the increase volume was always explained as " the added power and lower S/N, along with the very low T.H.D. and the fine attention to the purest and cleanest sound reproduction."
When ask if I could adjust the volume while we listen, you could see small beads of sweat on 95% of the salespersons...LOL.

There were some great salespeople out there at certain places, and it was a great pleasure shopping at those places, mainly because those certain salespeople truly loved audio and really got into discussing the real qualities of certain systems.

Ghpr13

Ghpr13 said:

The husband of my wife's friend did just that, except he only paid $50.00 for the cable. This was after having a number of discussions between him & me, and me telling him repeatedly that all my HDMI and other cables were purchased through MonoPrice.com. But he's one of those people that will eat up anything a salesperson will tell him and believe it.

This BS about upper price cables being the best reminds me back to when I would help my friends pick out audio systems. Back in the 70's/80's, there were a few "Audio Stores" in Chicago that were specialty shops ( not like the Best Buys Or CC). Anyway, you would go into there "Listening Room" and they would let you sit down in a nice, comfortable chair, and then play different sound systems for you. All they needed to do was press a button on the console and and you could hear whichever system you wanted. The thing that most people didn't realize, is that they had the volume turned slightly up on the more expensive systems to make it sound more impressive and clearer. Of course the increase volume was always explained as " the added power and lower S/N, along with the very low T.H.D. and the fine attention to the purest and cleanest sound reproduction."
When ask if I could adjust the volume while we listen, you could see small beads of sweat on 95% of the salespersons...LOL.

There were some great salespeople out there at certain places, and it was a great pleasure shopping at those places, mainly because those certain salespeople truly loved audio and really got into discussing the real qualities of certain systems.

Ghpr13

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raoul5788 said:

There were and still are a few stores like that around here in CT. The reason those systems sound better, and they do, is because they have really nice speakers. They sell Klipsch, B&W, Magnapan, Thiel, Paradigm and other high end names. They really do sound better, but not because of the speaker cables or interconnects, it's the higher quality speakers. At high volumes, better amps matter, too, since they handle the current demands. Basically though, it's the speakers.

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I do agree that sometimes in was because of the difference in speakers (specially the ones you named) or an amp, but when "stereo shops" were plentiful, before the BBs and CCs, some sales people would use "sound tricks" to draw you to a certain brand. Similar to how the BBs and other big box stores have certain HD TVs set to a "demo" setting to draw customers to certain units.

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rhea said:

Tried to be a good wife and.purchased a 3dtv,3d blueray, 4 pairs of glasses so hubby could play ps3 in 3d. Installer hooked me up 4 $600. Then my retAiler tells me I need 1.4 hdmi to view true 3d. InstAller comes back and charges $200 4 difference in the 2 cables and $275 to fish out old & put in new. I find out ps3 has a patch that makes this superfluous. I call tv manufacturer to ask why they don't have a patch that seems could be easily downloaded given their internet accessible tv. I am told that 1.3 hdmi is fine. What is the real story, and any possible solutions? This has become extremely expensive!!!!

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Hope that helps, and sorry that it sounds like that installer got one over on you.

Ghpr13

Ghpr13 said:

I do agree that sometimes in was because of the difference in speakers (specially the ones you named) or an amp, but when "stereo shops" were plentiful, before the BBs and CCs, some sales people would use "sound tricks" to draw you to a certain brand. Similar to how the BBs and other big box stores have certain HD TVs set to a "demo" setting to draw customers to certain units.

Ghpr13

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