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HD anti-piracy code crack leaked online
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The "IntelGlobalPR" Twitter page which links to the code that supposedly unlocks anti-piracy software for high-def movies is available.
By Suzanne Choney
The software code used to prevent piracy of movies shown on HDTVs, Blu-ray players and set-top boxes appears to have been cracked, with the code for unlocking that "master key" posted on the Internet, first via Twitter.
The news comes at a bad time for the movie industry, which is getting ready to offer films that are still in theaters to folks at home in front of their HD sets, with playback limited by the Digital Rights Management software that may have been hacked.
Intel created the piracy-prevention software, called HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection). It is used on every device that plays high-def content to prevent copying of movies. A Twitter account, named "IntelGlobalPR" — which clearly is not Intel's — posted a link to a Web page supposedly containing the code to unlock the copy protection "master key."
"How many metaphorical bloody noses will it take before the movie and music industries realize that DRM is a waste of their time — and ours?" wrote Richi Jennings, who writes about security for Computerworld. "And, as for 'pirates', the futility of DRM is clearly shown by the timeliness and quality of the Blu-ray rips available in BitTorrent and USENET."
"We are, of course, aware of the rumors and stories about this, and we are investigating this as we speak," a spokesman for Intel told msnbc.com Wednesday.
Engadget, one of the first to report the possible breach, said, "Who discovered this and by what technique isn't immediately clear, but as early as 2001 security researcher Niels Ferguson proposed that it could be easily revealed by knowing the keys of less than 50 different devices. Hardware HDCP rippers like the HDfury2 and DVIMAGIC have been around for a while and various AACS cracks easily allow rips of Blu-ray discs ... but if this information is what it claims to be, then the DRM genie could be permanently out of the bag allowing perfect high definition copies of anything as long as the current connector standards are around.
"While it's unlikely your average user would flash their capture device with a brand new key and get to copying uncompressed HD audio and video, keeping those early releases off of the torrents in bit perfect quality could go from difficult to impossible."
HD anti-piracy code crack leaked online
msnbc.com
The "IntelGlobalPR" Twitter page which links to the code that supposedly unlocks anti-piracy software for high-def movies is available.
By Suzanne Choney
The software code used to prevent piracy of movies shown on HDTVs, Blu-ray players and set-top boxes appears to have been cracked, with the code for unlocking that "master key" posted on the Internet, first via Twitter.
The news comes at a bad time for the movie industry, which is getting ready to offer films that are still in theaters to folks at home in front of their HD sets, with playback limited by the Digital Rights Management software that may have been hacked.
Intel created the piracy-prevention software, called HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection). It is used on every device that plays high-def content to prevent copying of movies. A Twitter account, named "IntelGlobalPR" — which clearly is not Intel's — posted a link to a Web page supposedly containing the code to unlock the copy protection "master key."
"How many metaphorical bloody noses will it take before the movie and music industries realize that DRM is a waste of their time — and ours?" wrote Richi Jennings, who writes about security for Computerworld. "And, as for 'pirates', the futility of DRM is clearly shown by the timeliness and quality of the Blu-ray rips available in BitTorrent and USENET."
"We are, of course, aware of the rumors and stories about this, and we are investigating this as we speak," a spokesman for Intel told msnbc.com Wednesday.
Engadget, one of the first to report the possible breach, said, "Who discovered this and by what technique isn't immediately clear, but as early as 2001 security researcher Niels Ferguson proposed that it could be easily revealed by knowing the keys of less than 50 different devices. Hardware HDCP rippers like the HDfury2 and DVIMAGIC have been around for a while and various AACS cracks easily allow rips of Blu-ray discs ... but if this information is what it claims to be, then the DRM genie could be permanently out of the bag allowing perfect high definition copies of anything as long as the current connector standards are around.
"While it's unlikely your average user would flash their capture device with a brand new key and get to copying uncompressed HD audio and video, keeping those early releases off of the torrents in bit perfect quality could go from difficult to impossible."
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goobenet said:Okay, i can't help but chime in because people seem to think this whole digital copy thing is black and white. (pardon the pun)
Now, the movie industry hated the invention of instant replay back in the 60's, they REALLY hated the invention of the VCR (with integrated tuners!) in the 70's, but never really tried to lobby it because there were too many other loopholes. (some days i miss analog)
Then came the digital revolution. DVDs had to be encrypted, and that was defeated. BD player keys, defeated. Now the master key for HDCP which will ALLOW for a "Man-in-the-middle" copy scheme. They really don't like this... it screws up EVERYTHING. Because distributing on disc is one thing, they know it's expensive, they know people will figure out how to copy it. "If man can make it, man can most certainly break it." It even screws up the next generation of "on-demand" delivery. Streaming, because it can now be sucked off the once-thought secure interface. They don't even have to BUY a copy of it anymore! Ut oh!
NOW, the real point people seem to be forgetting is that the MPAA/RIAA shot themselves in the foot a LONG time ago. Go read those documents. Digital media (be it movie, data, music, whatever), is licensed, not purchased. HOWEVER, because of possible defects and the venerable knowledge that physical media WILL go bad, you are allowed ONE BACKUP COPY of any digital media you "license".
Oops.
Of course there's provisions in there, not for public display, not for resale, cannot turn profit, non-transferable, etc. BUT, you are allowed one backup per license you purchase. It's funny that DRM actually PREVENTS you from creating this back up copy because they assume guilt.
I work in radio, i had a media lawyer explain this to me for $400 an hour. Worth every penny.
Speaking of radio and copy protection. Remember when we would get copies of full CD's in the mail with the big sticker that said 'for your convenience, this is NOT copy protected'?
We rebelled when they were sending us CD's that we couldn't rip into our automation and dropped all of a certain labels songs. That ended that real fast. Of course now everything is watermarked, but at least I get to download a wav instead of an mp3.
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Yeah, we stopped taking Sony discs too.
We're actually kinda pissed that we don't get CDs anymore from a lot of labels. They all want us to go to myspace and get them from there... they seem to think that audio quality is universal. This is our new fight. Dumbasses who think 24khz mono tracks are just as good as the CD cut...
(BTW, i'm an engineer, the PDs worst nightmare, and best friend. )
Yeah, we stopped taking Sony discs too.
We're actually kinda pissed that we don't get CDs anymore from a lot of labels. They all want us to go to myspace and get them from there... they seem to think that audio quality is universal. This is our new fight. Dumbasses who think 24khz mono tracks are just as good as the CD cut...
(BTW, i'm an engineer, the PDs worst nightmare, and best friend.
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Ahh.Yeah, we stopped taking Sony discs too.
We're actually kinda pissed that we don't get CDs anymore from a lot of labels. They all want us to go to myspace and get them from there... they seem to think that audio quality is universal. This is our new fight. Dumbasses who think 24khz mono tracks are just as good as the CD cut...
(BTW, i'm an engineer, the PDs worst nightmare, and best friend.
The most insecure jobs on the planet are those of the PD and the on air talent. Poor ratings means those people becoem expendible.. Real fast.
OTOH, engineers can last forever because nobody ever sees them. As long as they keep the station on the air, they are relatively safe.
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Yep, it's rather unfortunate too. Ratings can drop through no fault of your own. Trends change. Though engineers are now becoming an expendable item around a station too, we spend money and save money, we provide no revenue. GMs are thinking that it's cheaper to call a guy in an emergency than to have one on staff... Penny wise, pound foolish.
I did once get in the face of a PD. He had an ego that the building couldn't hold, he thought i was his personal "bitch". I stood up to him in front of the OM and GM and said "I CAN REPLACE YOU WITH A VERY SMALL COMPUTER PROGRAM TOMORROW, THEY STILL NEED ME TO FIX THE COMPUTER!". He got really quiet after that... Honest to god GOOD air talent is becoming a very rare item these days. PDs tend to just swing their balls around now days and blame the part-timers for any problems or issues so they don't take the heat. It's very much a political game in radio. 
But yes, i know how to change a tube in a 30kW transmitter in under 1/2 an hour. The GM doesn't. That gives me the ability to name my price when he calls. =)
Yep, it's rather unfortunate too. Ratings can drop through no fault of your own. Trends change. Though engineers are now becoming an expendable item around a station too, we spend money and save money, we provide no revenue. GMs are thinking that it's cheaper to call a guy in an emergency than to have one on staff... Penny wise, pound foolish.
I did once get in the face of a PD. He had an ego that the building couldn't hold, he thought i was his personal "bitch". I stood up to him in front of the OM and GM and said "I CAN REPLACE YOU WITH A VERY SMALL COMPUTER PROGRAM TOMORROW, THEY STILL NEED ME TO FIX THE COMPUTER!". He got really quiet after that...
Honest to god GOOD air talent is becoming a very rare item these days. PDs tend to just swing their balls around now days and blame the part-timers for any problems or issues so they don't take the heat. It's very much a political game in radio. But yes, i know how to change a tube in a 30kW transmitter in under 1/2 an hour. The GM doesn't. That gives me the ability to name my price when he calls. =)
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Talk about a thread drift!
I'm the "project analyst" for KVSC-FM in St. Cloud, MN. One of the few public stations not part of NPR/MPR. Typical college radio. Rule is, if it's been on mainstream radio in the past 10 years, we don't play it!
I'm the "project analyst" for KVSC-FM in St. Cloud, MN. One of the few public stations not part of NPR/MPR. Typical college radio. Rule is, if it's been on mainstream radio in the past 10 years, we don't play it!
WSOU-FM ( Seton Hall Univ) was like that in the 80's. They played the all deep cuts and other AOR that went right by the market analysts. Hence never saw a playlist at any NY metro area AOR station.Talk about a thread drift!
I'm the "project analyst" for KVSC-FM in St. Cloud, MN. One of the few public stations not part of NPR/MPR. Typical college radio. Rule is, if it's been on mainstream radio in the past 10 years, we don't play it!
Yep, it's rather unfortunate too. Ratings can drop through no fault of your own. Trends change. Though engineers are now becoming an expendable item around a station too, we spend money and save money, we provide no revenue. GMs are thinking that it's cheaper to call a guy in an emergency than to have one on staff... Penny wise, pound foolish.
I did once get in the face of a PD. He had an ego that the building couldn't hold, he thought i was his personal "bitch". I stood up to him in front of the OM and GM and said "I CAN REPLACE YOU WITH A VERY SMALL COMPUTER PROGRAM TOMORROW, THEY STILL NEED ME TO FIX THE COMPUTER!". He got really quiet after that...
But yes, i know how to change a tube in a 30kW transmitter in under 1/2 an hour. The GM doesn't. That gives me the ability to name my price when he calls. =)
As Broadcast engineers become more IT engs as I did we are less out of sight out of mind. I was given the boot right after I got them up an running on their non-linear news play out system was finished. They decided to make the remote admin start earning his money again instead of making me do 95% of his job. You mean there still is "good" on air talent? I'm TV but what is being said about radio goes for TV as well. Ha good on air talent. All most are is journalism majors that can read. They really don't write much anymore just steal their stories off the net from AP then edit them.
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Your journalists re-write the AP stories?!?!
All the stuff around here is rip-and-read... And not pre-read. 
The stations around here give me enough to make a living. There's always something that needs to be done, i just told a few stations "hey, contract me 20 hours a week, i'll give you a discount". They bit. So 3 stations, 20,20,10 and an on-call nature for another one turns decent money. Especially when nobody is buying solid state rigs yet... But they're slowly showing up.
Remember, the engineers goal is to work himself out of a job. I had one station working so well i would go in and fall asleep on the couch most days. Worst thing i had to do was clean a CD player once in a while. Every so often re-align a laser. Now that same station employs me (one of the 20h stations mentioned above) and can't wait to give me crap to do, even if it doesn't need to be done.
Like "figure out how to go AoIP... without spending $500,000". Uh... ok.
Also, those who can merry IT and RF will inherit the engineers world. IT managers have no clue how RF works, and most RF guys have no clue how IT works (on large scales).
Your journalists re-write the AP stories?!?!
All the stuff around here is rip-and-read... And not pre-read. The stations around here give me enough to make a living. There's always something that needs to be done, i just told a few stations "hey, contract me 20 hours a week, i'll give you a discount". They bit. So 3 stations, 20,20,10 and an on-call nature for another one turns decent money. Especially when nobody is buying solid state rigs yet... But they're slowly showing up.
Remember, the engineers goal is to work himself out of a job. I had one station working so well i would go in and fall asleep on the couch most days. Worst thing i had to do was clean a CD player once in a while. Every so often re-align a laser. Now that same station employs me (one of the 20h stations mentioned above) and can't wait to give me crap to do, even if it doesn't need to be done.
Like "figure out how to go AoIP... without spending $500,000". Uh... ok.
Also, those who can merry IT and RF will inherit the engineers world. IT managers have no clue how RF works, and most RF guys have no clue how IT works (on large scales).
NOt that smart
Oh no they are smart enough to rewrite an AP story they just take the story and edit out what they need to fill their little piece on air.
Your journalists re-write the AP stories?!?!
The stations around here give me enough to make a living. There's always something that needs to be done, i just told a few stations "hey, contract me 20 hours a week, i'll give you a discount". They bit. So 3 stations, 20,20,10 and an on-call nature for another one turns decent money. Especially when nobody is buying solid state rigs yet... But they're slowly showing up.
Remember, the engineers goal is to work himself out of a job. I had one station working so well i would go in and fall asleep on the couch most days. Worst thing i had to do was clean a CD player once in a while. Every so often re-align a laser. Now that same station employs me (one of the 20h stations mentioned above) and can't wait to give me crap to do, even if it doesn't need to be done.
Like "figure out how to go AoIP... without spending $500,000". Uh... ok.
Also, those who can merry IT and RF will inherit the engineers world. IT managers have no clue how RF works, and most RF guys have no clue how IT works (on large scales).
Oh no they are smart enough to rewrite an AP story they just take the story and edit out what they need to fill their little piece on air.
I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.
It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.
Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?
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After having continuing trouble with my eight+ year old Dell Inspiron laptop I am looking to hopefully catch a good deal on new one. My options to buy is Costco and Sam's Club. It seems like a lot of new laptops are 2 in 1 which I do not need. I use the laptop to mainly surf the web and keep up with my finances, money and bills. I would like to have at least a 15" screen and having a touchscreen is a plus. The keyboard would need to lighted also. I don't game any. It would have to be Windows instead of and not Mac. The brands I see the most are Asus, Dell and HP. My two last laptops has been Dell's. Of these brands are there any standouts over the other brands. My budget (hopefully) is $600+-. Also while researching I noticed that do not have ethernet ports.
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Dang female lions don't mess around when it comes to their kiddos....aka whelps.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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when was the last time they innovated something
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.when was the last time they innovated something
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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..I hate playing in Ames.
I hate playing in LA ...
Buckeyes had 2 weeks off and came out and looked absolutely terrible ... broke in a new Freshman Qb, but that wasn't the worst part ... undiscipline play, at last count they had 10 penalties.
Freshman in the end of the game trying to play catch up, had a lot of Over throws ... Bucks lose ...
#1 Miami struggled but pulled away in the end beating North Carolina by 3 ...
Tuesday the CFP brings out thier Playoff Top 12 again ... Buckeyes should drop from #2 to about #22 (they won't) had they had thier Starting QB, it would have been a different game ...
They could lose the rest of thier games at this point.
My in-Laws came from Iowa, she was a graduate of ISU. Unranked Iowa teams beat the #24 and #25 teams on Halloween.
And I heard that your QB made a poor choice after scoring the tying touchdown, leading to a fifteen yard penalty on the ensuing kickoff. The Cyclones were then able to take advantage of the resulting field position to get close enough to score the winning field goal.
In a NCAA Football season of bizarre endings, this has to rank right up there.
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Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.
Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.
After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.
I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Such a scam. Healthcare.gov shows me cheaper individual plans available for 2027 from ambetter that ambetter doesn't show on their website. Looked it up. I've spent $68,000 in premiums the last 5 years and got nothing out of it except a few doctors visits and labs.
I'm on Medicare but the rest of the family is on ACA. ACA is ridiculus. The ACA premium has been about about $1900/month with a $9K deductible for the past 10 years - no eye or dental. A lot of money and yet we get so little in return. I haven't signed up for 2027 yet but I expect the cost to be higher.
Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.
Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.
After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.
I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
I had an old Wireless Joey replaced by a Wireless Joey 4 (Android TV) - still have a Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. What do I have to do to get the EPG to show channel logos instead of "Dish"? This is annoying as hell and it's been this way for over a month…
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Amazon to acquire Globalstar and expand Amazon Leo satellite network
Globalstar satellites, radio frequency spectrum, and operational expertise will enable Amazon Leo to add Direct-to-Device (D2D) services to future generations of its low Earth orbit satellite network.
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SpaceX reportedly seeks 80,000 cell sites to become a wireless carrier | Fox News
SpaceX is reportedly pursuing 80,000 cell sites to turn Starlink into a wireless carrier that could compete with Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile for cell coverage.
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This should hit a lot of folks with a dose of reality. I can only imagine how much more common this will get as AI progresses.
I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.
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I read several stories on this and most are clear as mud. They say a lot of the stolen bitcoin has been "locked out" and that everyone will be made financially whole. I guess time will tell if either of these statements are actually true.
Hackers steal $6.3 billion from Binance in biggest-ever cryptocurrency theft
The company later added it began recovering assets impacted by the breach after pledging to cover losses using its Secure Asset Fund for Users.
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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