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Last reply Sep 19, 2010 · posted in The Sports Section

Charles Barkley admits to taking cash when at Auburn....

...NOT surprised by this at all. Not because I think Charles is a scumbag or anything like that. I disagree with Barkley alot of times, but he is THE most candid former professional athlete out there. Sometimes, TOO candid....but as far as fans perspective, better than an introvert.

If not for the NCAA's four-year statute of limitations, Auburn might be vacating some victories from one of its few decent eras of basketball.

Charles Barkley was discussing Reggie Bush's decision to return the Heisman Trophy during an interview with Dan Patrick on Friday morning when the conversation turned to his own college career. The always outspoken former Auburn star admitted that he too received money from agents during college in the 1980s, though Barkley described it as "chump change" that he paid back once he signed his first NBA contract.

"If a guy wants to borrow money from an agent because he's poor, what is wrong with that?" Barkley said. "Nobody can tell me what is wrong with that. I got money from agents when I was in college and I went in the '80s. Most of the players I know borrowed money from agents. The colleges don't give us anything. If they give us a pair of sneakers, they get in trouble. Why can't an agent lend me some money and I'll pay him back when I graduate?"

Barkley said the agents who pay potential future clients are "well known" in hoops circles because "they've been giving money to college kids for years." Ironically, however, the only agent who didn't pay Barkley while he was at Auburn ended up being the one that initially landed him as a client.

The revelations from Barkley aren't exactly surprising considering the SEC's reputation was even less pristine when he played than it is today, and the former Auburn star has hinted that he was on the take in the past. Still, at a time when the NCAA is trying to crack down on rogue agents and restore the notion of amateurism to college sports, you can be certain that folks at Auburn and other schools probably weren't thrilled with Barkley's message.

As for Barkley's opinion on the Bush case, it meshes with the former NBA star's belief that top college athletes should both receive a stipend from their universities and be allowed to accept money from prospective agents.

"I'm disappointed Reggie is giving the Heisman back because these colleges are making so much money off these kids," Barkley said. "Reggie made one mistake. He should have paid those [agents] back and this whole thing never would have happened."

Charles Barkley admits he received money from agents at Auburn - The Dagger - NCAAB - Yahoo! Sports

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riffjim4069

Sep 18, 2010

I'm not surprised by any of this either. To be honest, Barkley inadvertantly pointed-out everything wrong with college sports (OK, just football and basketball) when he said, "I'm disappointed Reggie is giving the Heisman back because these colleges are making so much money off these kids." That's the problem...it's all about money and not about education or tradition. Conversely, unlike baseball and hockey these kids use the university sports programs to develop and market their budding professional careers. Why? Because there are no real "farm systems" in these two sports...although playing overseas is now an option. The solution:

- The NFL and NBA should draft kids right out of high school (age 18).
- Serious student/athletes play college ball (note the emphasis on student.
- College football returns to its roots.
- Dummies, rummies and bummies (knuckleheads who have no business or desire being enrolled in college) are drafted into the professoinal ranks at age 18 where a small percentage will become successful...and the others won't give the colles and universities a black eye.

Viola! Problem solved...

salsadancer7

Sep 18, 2010

riffjim4069 said:
I'm not surprised by any of this either. To be honest, Barkley inadvertantly pointed-out everything wrong with college sports (OK, just football and basketball) when he said, "I'm disappointed Reggie is giving the Heisman back because these colleges are making so much money off these kids." That's the problem...it's all about money and not about education or tradition. Conversely, unlike baseball and hockey these kids use the university sports programs to develop and market their budding professional careers. Why? Because there are no real "farm systems" in these two sports...although playing overseas is now an option. The solution:

- The NFL and NBA should draft kids right out of high school (age 18).
- Serious student/athletes play college ball (note the emphasis on student.
- College football returns to its roots.
- Dummies, rummies and bummies (knuckleheads who have no business or desire being enrolled in college) are drafted into the professoinal ranks at age 18 where a small percentage will become successful...and the others won't give the colles and universities a black eye.

Viola! Problem solved...

Would not solve everything. There is NO WAY the college president would agree because some of those "dummies, rummies and bummies" brings them MILLIONS for OTHER things other than new shinny equipment and nice stadiums. They ALSO bring alumni money. And non-alumni, non-sports money too.

It could NEVER go back to pre-big time sports and big time TV money.

riffjim4069

Sep 18, 2010

salsadancer7 said:
Would not solve everything. There is NO WAY the college president would agree because some of those "dummies, rummies and bummies" brings them MILLIONS for OTHER things other than new shinny equipment and nice stadiums. They ALSO bring alumni money. And non-alumni, non-sports money too.

It could NEVER go back to pre-big time sports and big time TV money.

I know it will never happen since you can't put the lid back on Pandora's box...however, it SHOULD happen.

salsadancer7

Sep 18, 2010

Yep. Once those college presidents got a taste of those TV dollars, there was no turning off that cash faucet.

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SamCdbs

Sep 19, 2010

First, you are never going to change college sports. Aside from the (huge) direct money that comes from it, a very wise college president once said "sadly, most people in most states who never went to college think the quality of an institution is directly proportional to the quality of its football team". This is true. If the US had college sports similar to, say, Canada's, most ordinary people in, lets just pick a state, say Ohio, would be only vaguely aware of Ohio State and the difference between it and Ohio U. Unless you, or your kids, went there, you would no more care about it than you would any other state bureau or department. The simple fact is that state universities uses sports to promote themselves in a never ending funding war between the various schools in a state.

It is sports that make non-alumni people think of North Carolina, Alabama, Texas, or any other "named for the state" school as "we".

Try this. Pick any 20 people and ask them to name a really "great" college. After a few Ivies, you will get a list of Division I-A football schools. Ask them to name the "best" college in their state and 19 out of 20 will name the named for the state Div I-A football power. Now in some cases (Michigan, Penn State, UNC, etc) it is true that the state has a "selective" system of admissions and the smartest kids go there and others have to settle for other schools, but its more common that "state U" and and all of the various directional state colleges around a state are pretty much the same, and a Ohio State degree is about the same as a Miami degree is about the same as a Cincinnati degree is about the same as a Youngstown degree.

That said, I am tired of people talking about the "exploited" college athlete. Free tuition and all of that at these schools (some of which they would not be admitted to, as noted above, under normal circumstances), is a great deal. The college makes money? What is the biggest money maker for most colleges? Sports? No, health care. The Big Centeral State Referral Hospital. Where the hard cases are sent. Ever know anybody who went into healthcare. Years of free work at those hospitals to be a nurse, pharmacist, therapist, whatever. Not to mention an MD. Two years of totally uncompensated work followed by 2 to 4 years of 100 hour weeks as a resident for a token salary. All to be, no earlier than one's mid 30s, making upper middle class money, not the 1/10th of 1% highest bracket that an athlete is paid.

For that matter, get an advanced degree in anything. A legit Master's or a PhD. You will spend several years teaching undergrads and doing research that the college will own the rights to, for no money at all.

Cry me a river about college athletes and their explotation.

Now, all that said, I do not see the problem with all of this current agent stuff. Taking money from a booster is wrong. It is cheating by the college. It is being a professional in an amateur sport. But why is a booster slipping a guy money a big deal. The agent could care less what college the guy went to, he is just fronting him some money on the promise of future payments. To continue my medical analogy, I had a friend who was a pharmacy student. Pharmacy is a great major because of high demand and the fact that a pharmacist one day out of school is just as good to the drug store chains as one 50 years out of school, probably better. Now he got entertained during his senior year by all these big companies. What is so different from being entertained by various prospective agents?

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dfergie

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Last reply 4 minutes ago · posted in What's Cooking?

What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.

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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.

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TRG said:
Fanta orange soda.

Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)

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Garlic cheese bread
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Peter Parker

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Last reply 7 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Saturday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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naptime

Yesterday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 1:01 PM

reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.

Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Tried-Turning-Again-T-Shirt/dp/B07G1ZV9W9/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3NNRAEED195WV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.86TxUTPcw48CRYlDcLntwpMxbPDBfjiLu4wMZGX3VN6ajG_cFCuoDBJT7pS9CW2mjThKlke5Z6dlXH8bJKkQF4s892wGVU1ca_00S0BQz6F15V30_4szIdWeycvw3_zoVtsULQASM8bGcgvsKms930xApC43y_-YBVN0Q8Xsf_csSqXcmhWpresARdXHfx2VazllrXI8asduvrbnk9S3CGnzjqnVTkjzFSpSQLdQKA6Dx_7UfbQIBBJsqAmQwwtDGqM0YKVIkjV4ARgVJvJ69vLPhxV0m8pkJQd_2w_QX_A.-jSy9OqrqWdxPBsgZGia1hHMbvDAKxxhRn9kK1EBdCc&dib_tag=se&keywords=have%2Byou%2Btried%2Bturning%2Bit%2Boff%2Band%2Bon%2Bagain&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792342839&sprefix=have%2Byou%2Btried%2B%2Caps%2C265&sr=8-11&customId=B0752XJYNL&customizationToken=MC_Assembly_1%23B0752XJYNL&th=1&psc=1

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cpdretired

Yesterday at 6:58 PM

dishstaller said:
Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Tried-Turning-Again-T-Shirt/dp/B07G1ZV9W9/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3NNRAEED195WV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.86TxUTPcw48CRYlDcLntwpMxbPDBfjiLu4wMZGX3VN6ajG_cFCuoDBJT7pS9CW2mjThKlke5Z6dlXH8bJKkQF4s892wGVU1ca_00S0BQz6F15V30_4szIdWeycvw3_zoVtsULQASM8bGcgvsKms930xApC43y_-YBVN0Q8Xsf_csSqXcmhWpresARdXHfx2VazllrXI8asduvrbnk9S3CGnzjqnVTkjzFSpSQLdQKA6Dx_7UfbQIBBJsqAmQwwtDGqM0YKVIkjV4ARgVJvJ69vLPhxV0m8pkJQd_2w_QX_A.-jSy9OqrqWdxPBsgZGia1hHMbvDAKxxhRn9kK1EBdCc&dib_tag=se&keywords=have%2Byou%2Btried%2Bturning%2Bit%2Boff%2Band%2Bon%2Bagain&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792342839&sprefix=have%2Byou%2Btried%2B%2Caps%2C265&sr=8-11&customId=B0752XJYNL&customizationToken=MC_Assembly_1%23B0752XJYNL&th=1&psc=1

Works every time. My wife needs one.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:14 PM

dishstaller said:
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

Here's the one I need:

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 10:15 PM

Foxbat said:
Here's the one I need:

View attachment 194877

Just ordered one....that's great.

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jsmit86

Today at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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long_time_Dish

7 minutes ago

jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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dfergie

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Last reply 11 minutes ago · posted in TV Shows

Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed

Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner

The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld

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dfergie

Sep 10, 2026

The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)

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reubenray

Today at 1:30 PM

I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

osu1991

Today at 2:00 PM

Watch Stargate SG-1 for Free Online | Pluto TV

Stargate SG-1 picks up where the blockbuster film left off as the SG-1 team sets out to explore the mysteries of the Stargate and the worlds beyond it in the pulse-pounding series which became a worldwide phenomenon and a science fiction classic. Stream Stargate SG-1 for free on Pluto TV.

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long_time_Dish

18 minutes ago

reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

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reubenray

11 minutes ago

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 36 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles

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Today at 9:30 AM

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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles

The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take Me to the River - Talking Heads

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Today at 3:02 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Elon Musk’s Wildest Demo Yet! Is It Real?

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beerzKBCSUo

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Bobby

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Last reply Today at 2:37 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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Tuesday at 8:48 PM

MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 8:50 PM

CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

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Tuesday at 8:52 PM

NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.

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Bobby

Thursday at 3:57 PM

CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.

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Today at 2:37 PM

CFB, Ole Miss at Texas, Saturday 10-24, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.

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Ramy

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Last reply Today at 2:11 PM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:19 AM

A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.

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Yesterday at 6:34 PM

Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"

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Today at 11:08 AM

osu1991 said:
View: https://youtu.be/mUq0cZaflyc?si=odZ2TTCweQXCWNBR

They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.

. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!

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Jimbo

Today at 2:11 PM

Mike0616 said:
They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!

Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.

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klang

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Last reply Today at 2:04 PM · posted in TV Shows

Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.

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klang

Jul 28, 2025

I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

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klang

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.

Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

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MikeD-C05

Oct 11, 2026

klang said:
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.

Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.

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harshness

Tuesday at 11:28 AM

MikeD-C05 said:
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.

Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

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MikeD-C05

Yesterday at 12:51 PM

harshness said:
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?

There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.

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harshness

Yesterday at 2:00 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.

Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

MikeD-C05

Today at 1:35 PM

harshness said:
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.

I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

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osu1991

Today at 1:59 PM

MikeD-C05 said:
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that.

Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping

klang

Today at 2:04 PM

I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.

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Linus Tech Tips

Today at 1:32 PM · posted in Linus Tech Tips

This video was pain and suffering

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Today at 1:22 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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dishdude

Today at 1:45 AM

They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:50 AM

They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.

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HipKat

Today at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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AZ.

Today at 9:02 AM

Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?

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telstar_1

Today at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.