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Last reply Oct 12, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Latino Dos Questions

Is this information (which I typed up) correct for the Dish Latino Dos package? I am just curious about it. So, locals and local RSNs are included? EA can now get all the Dish Latino channels now, right (I saw a recent uplink the other day.)? This package does not seem horrible. If anyone knows any other channels in the package, let us know. Also, if anyone sees any channel mistakes, let me know. I am concerned more about the channels than the channel numbers, but be free to correct any channel number errors.

Dish Latino Dos [200+ channels] $39.99 (eligible for HD FOR LIFE)

LOCALS:
SD/HD
Varies.

LOCAL SPORTS NETWORKS:
SD/HD
Varies.

ENGLISH CHANNELS:
SD/HD
118/5312 A&E HD
9413 Alma Vision Hispanic Network
890 AMC
219 America Live
262 Angel One
887/5332 Animal Planet HD
873 Boomerang
880/5309 Bravo HD
9403 BYUTV
176/5335 Cartoon Network (East) HD
177 Cartoon Network (West)
265 CCTV-9
267 Christian Television Network
9406 Classic Arts Showcase
200/5314 CNN HD
9407 Colours TV
107/5317 Comedy Central HD
210 C-SPAN
182/5330 Discovery Channel HD
888 Disocvery Kids
847 Disney XD
197 Documentary Channel
261 EWTN
110/5311 Food Network HD
877/5306 Fox Soccer Channel HD
9415 Free Speech TV
878/5345 FX HD
229 Gems & Jewelry
226 Gems TV
9402 Health & Human Services Television
112/5310 HGTV HD
202/5315 HLN HD
404 HorseRacing TV
84 HSN
882 ION (East)
217 Ion (West)
230 In Country Television
894 Independent Film Channel (IFC)
259 Inspiration Network
227 Jewelry Television
264 KTV
108/5343 Lifetime HD
9410 LinkTV
218 Mercury
160/5321 MTV HD
161 MTV 2
212 NASA
886/5334 National Geographic Channel HD
170/5340 Nick HD (East)
171 Nick West
137 QVC
9405 Pentagon Channel
224 SHOP
228 ShopNBC
168/5303 Spike TV HD
104 SRi
223 SRN
122/5329 Syfy HD
260 TBN
139/5342 TBS in HD
9393 Three Angels Broadcasting Network
183/5331 TLC HD
138/5353 TNT HD
405 TV Games Network
117 TV Guide Network
9411 University House
9412 University of California TV
105/5328 USA HD
829 Vecindario DISH
889 WE: Women's Entertainment
214/5367 Weather Channel HD

64 SIRIUS MUSIC CHANNELS:
Audio
6001 Siriux XM Hits 1 - Top 40 Hits
6002 The Blend - Lite Pop Hits
6003 Sirius XM Love - Love Songs
6004 '40s on 4 - '40s Pop Hits/Big Band
6005 '50s on 5 - '50s Pop Hits
6006 '60s on 6 - '60s Pop Hits
6007 '70s on 7 - '70s Pop Hits
6008 '80s on 8 - '80s Pop Hits
6009 '90s on 9 - '90s Pop Hits
6010 E Street Radio - Bruce Springsteen 24/7
6011 BBC Radio 1 - UK Pop Hits
6012 The Pulse - Modern Adult Hits
6013 Elvis Radio - Elvis Presley 24/7
6014 Classic Vinyl - '60s & '70s Classic Rock
6015 Classic Rewind - '70s & '80s Classic Rock
6016 Deep Tracks - Deep Classic Rock
6017 Jam On - Jam Bands
6018 The Spectrum - Adult Album Rock
6019 Boneyard - Classic Hard Rock
6020 Octane - New Hard Rock
6021 Alt Nation - New Alternative
6022 First Wave - Classic '80s Alternative
6023 Hair Nation - '80s Hair Bands
6024 Lithium - '90s Alternative/Grunge
6025 Underground Garage - With Little Steven
6026 Sirius XM U - Indie/College/Unsigned
6027 Liquid Metal - Heavy Metal
6028 Faction - Action Sports/Punk/Ska
6029 The Loft - Comfortably Eclectic
6030 The Coffee House - Acoustic Singer-Songwriters
6031 Radio Margaritaville - Escape to Margaritaville
6032 Grateful Dead - Grateful Dead 24/7
6033 The Bridge - Mellow Rock
6035 Sirius XM Chill - Smooth Electronic
6036 BPM - Dance Hits
6038 Area - Trance/Progressive
6039 Backspin - Old Skool Rap
6040 Hip-Hop Nation - The Nation's Hip-Hop Hits
6045 Shade 45 - Eminem's Uncut Hip-Hop
6050 The Heat - Rhythm/R&B Hits
6051 Heart & Soul - Adult R&B Hits
6053 Soul Town - Classic Soul/Motown
6060 The Highway - New Country Hits
6061 Prime Country - '80s & '90s Country Hits
6062 The Roadhouse - '60s & '70s Country
6063 Outlaw Country - Rockin' Country/Americana
6064 Willie's Place - Traditional Country
6065 Bluegrass Junction - Bluegrass
6066 The Message - Christian Pop & Rock
6067 Enlighten - Southern Gospel
6068 Praise - Gospel
6071 Watercolors - Smooth/Contemporary Jazz
6072 Real Jazz - Traditional Jazz
6073 Spa - New Age
6074 B.B. King's Bluesville - Blues
6075 Siriusly Sinatra - Sinatra/American Standards
6076 Escape - Beautiful Music
6077 On Broadway - Show Tunes
6078 Met Opera Radio - Opera/Classical Vocals
6079 SIRIUS XM Pops - Classical Pops
6080 Symphony Hall - Traditional Classical
6081 The Strobe - Disco/Classic Dance
6083 Caliente - Tropical/ Latin Pop
6084 The Joint - Reggae

31+ MUZAK CHANNELS:
Audio
819 Latin Music-Viva Mariachi
820 Latin Music-Fiesta Mexicana
821 Latin Music-Latin Styles
822 Latin Music-Mojito
823 Latin Music-La Frontera
824 Latin Music-La Musica
950 Screen Door CD 1 Alternative Country
951 Rawhide CD 2 Country Classics
952 Nashville USA CD 3 Current Country Hits
953 Jukebox Gold CD 4 Rock 'n Roll Classics
954 Songbook CD 5 1970s Singer/Songwriters
955 Unforgettable CD 6 Adult Favorites
956 Cashmere CD 7 Adult Contemporary/Pop
957 Backpages CD 8 Adult Alternative
958 Strobe CD 9 Electro Pop
959 Rock Show CD 10 Classic Rock
960 Feedback CD 11 Alternative Rock
961 Ink'd CD 12 Power Rock/Metal
962 NuJazz CD 13 Acid Jazz
963 Concrete Beats CD 14 Hip-Hop/Rap
964 Estilos CD 15 Smooth Latin Music
965 Fiesta Mexicana CD 16 Mexican Music
966 Frequency CD 17 Club/Dance
967 Jazz Traditions CD 18 Classic Jazz
968 Impressions CD 19 Contemporary Jazz Instrumental
969 Acoustic Crossroads CD 20 Contemporary Folk
970 Plaza CD 21 Contemporary Instrumental
971 Ensemble CD 22 Classical Ambience
972 Intermezzo CD 23 Light Classical
973 Easy Instrumentals CD 24 Classic Easy Listening Instrumental
974 Swing Kings CD 25 Big Band Swing
975 The Light CD 26 Contemporary Christian
976 Kid Tunes CD 27 Children's Music
977 Aura CD 28 New Age
978 Lucille CD 29 Blues
979 Kingston CD 30 Reggae
980 BYU Radio
981 Hawaiian CD 32 Hawaiian Music

SPANISH CHANNELS:
SD/HD
825 Azteca America
867 Bandamax
848 CBeebies
865 Cinelatino
859 CNN en Espanol
832 Centroamerica TV
845 Discovery en Espanol
884 CCTV-E
853 Discovery Kids en Espanol/Discovery Familia
854 ESPN Deportes
862 De Pelicula
863 De Pelicula Clasico
855 Fox Sports en Espanol
833/833 Galavision HD
850 History en Espanol
843 HITN
838 mun2
834 Pasiones
487 Playboy en Espanol
857 SUR
839 TeleAmazonas
858 TeleFormula
830 TeleFutura (East)
5348 TeleFutura HD (West)
868 Telehit
835 Telemundo (East)
836 Telemundo (West)
844 Television Dominicana
841 TV Colombia
840 TVEI
842 Utilisima
872 Tr3s: MTV Musica y Mas
827/827 Univision HD (East)
828 Univision (West)
846 V-ME

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kikenovic

Oct 11, 2010

Since RSNs are part of the package (well, for those who still have a RSN), I'd assume it is possible to add the multi "sports" pack to those latino packages.

I ask mainly because these packages don't include NBATV, NFL Net or NHL net.

Other than that, at 52.99 latino MAX has some of the AT250 channels. Pretty interesting choice.

ghia

Oct 11, 2010

kikenovic said:
Since RSNs are part of the package (well, for those who still have a RSN), I'd assume it is possible to add the multi "sports" pack to those latino packages.

I ask mainly because these packages don't include NBATV, NFL Net or NHL net.

Other than that, at 52.99 latino MAX has some of the AT250 channels. Pretty interesting choice.

Yes you can add multisports to latino MAX package. It is a good way to go. Especially if you are a soccer fan.

kikenovic

Oct 12, 2010

Thanks Ghia. One more question, do you know if switching from AT200 to Latino Max counts as a downgrade?

Mojo Jojo

Oct 12, 2010

kikenovic said:
Thanks Ghia. One more question, do you know if switching from AT200 to Latino Max counts as a downgrade?

Didn't Dish do away with the downgrade fee as long as you had the package for a month?

ghia

Oct 12, 2010

kikenovic said:
Thanks Ghia. One more question, do you know if switching from AT200 to Latino Max counts as a downgrade?

I am not sure as I own my equipment and do not have issues with changing packages. I do not think there would be a problem with it though.

While I like the LatinoMAX package the best, it would be much improved if GOLTVHD was added back to it. Not sure if ESPN Deportes is available in HD or not, but that would be a great addition as well and that could be enough to drop down to LatinoDos, as the MNF games are on Deportes. There also seems to be more La Liga games along with an occasional Bundesliga match than the regular ESPN channel has.

radiator65

Oct 12, 2010

ESPNDeportes is not in HD.

kstuart

Oct 12, 2010

ghia said:
Yes you can add multisports to latino MAX package. It is a good way to go. Especially if you are a soccer fan.

There is no soccer in the multisports pack that is not already in Dish Latino Max.

ghia

Oct 12, 2010

kstuart said:
There is no soccer in the multisports pack that is not already in Dish Latino Max.

I was refering to the soccer in the Latino pack. Mutlisports get you the NFL RZ and Network for those that like the NFL and soccer. There are some MLS games in Mutlisport that can be seen though most all of them can be view on Fox soccer or fox sports espanol.

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JSheridan

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 11:27 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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Foxbat

Sep 25, 2026

Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:37 PM

Foxbat said:
Unless Dish acquires DirecTV and its mid-USA satellite slots, I may not have Dish Network to reach 40 years. Or, I guess we could buy a new house…

have charlie buy you a new house :biggrin

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 8:46 PM

Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:53 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
have charlie buy you a new house

Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 9:11 PM

Foxbat said:
Unfortunately, I don't think my social proximity to Charle Ergen provides any special perks. Maybe if Foxbat, Jr. were to marry his daughter…

that would be one hell of a convo :biggrin

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osu1991

Yesterday at 11:27 PM

telstar_1 said:
Well, I didn't immediately think of broadcast, where there are all kinds of digital "subchannels"- I remember back when digital broadcast began that supposedly the 6mhz channel would likely support just 1 HD program and that the added subchannels would likely have to remain SD. I don't watch enough broadcast to know. Are there a lot of the subchannels in SD-only, and how do they do that, like are they in 4:3 or some kind of low-res widescreen?

New more efficient encoders. I think there's around 60 channels/sub channels now in the Tulsa dma. 480 widescreen for most of the sub channels, but some have 2 HD channels and a couple of SD sub channels while others have 1 HD and 5 or more SD sub channels. If they moved to mp4 or hevc encoding they could do higher bitrates for SD or more HD or even 4K in that 6Mhz channel. That could render some early digital tvs unable to tune though as they may not have the codecs for that. Considering 4K tvs have been on sale for years, I think it would be a very small minority of TVs with the problem. I'd rather see that happen and keep ATSC 1 than continue the move to a DRM enforced ATSC 3 world.

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SatZach

Last reply Yesterday at 10:51 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Is Roku the new Legacy Cable?

The title was to catch everyone's eye lol! But it is a thought I've been having as I dev a Roku app for a client. You see many MAAANY years ago I got really interested in cable TV channels and even chatted with a regional carrier, Insight about what it took to get a channel number. It was surprisingly easy although prohibitively expensive.

You could petition, reserve a high channel number, they monitored performance and if they liked you, you'd get lower channel number overtime and cut into ad overlays.

Roku has a similar setup. Make an app, if it has a strong, original linear component you could get channel assignment on The Roku Channel.

As mixed as my feelings are on the current media landscape, I can't help but feel a little excited interest when I scope out the apps in the Roku store.

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navychop

Yesterday at 9:53 PM

Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.

SatZach

Yesterday at 10:51 PM

navychop said:
Hmmm. I think Roku will last. But will Firestick? With their backing, I guess so. Apple TV STB? Of Course. Walmart? Seems someone ought to go, but with their backing?….

Off brands have, as probably expected, very short lives.

All of those services have FAST Channels. FAST is a linear online broadcast stndrd. You notice how their linear channels all have some overlap? They are gettting paid for every second those streams are up without really having to do their own accounting. Best part is they don't even facilitate any of the stream bandwidth. Over glorified app stores on some android hardware. No reason NOT to stay in the game.

klang

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 9:52 PM · posted in TV Shows

Star Trek: Starfleet Academy - Paramount+

Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.

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harshness

Yesterday at 11:53 AM

Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 3:35 PM

harshness said:
Females wearing any clothing is unthinkable on Ferenginar.

Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...

Jimbo

Yesterday at 8:14 PM

long_time_Dish said:
Was never a huge of the Ferengi-centric episodes in Trek...

Me either ...
They turned out to be a Poor adversary ....

Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:02 PM

They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"

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long_time_Dish

Yesterday at 9:52 PM

Foxbat said:
They got their proper due on "Deep Space Nine"

And too many episodes centering on/around them as well...

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply Yesterday at 8:43 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Strega

Wednesday at 6:21 PM

I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!

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Almighty1

Thursday at 8:53 PM

I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

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Bobby

Thursday at 9:21 PM

Almighty1 said:
I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.

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SuperDish_Fan23

Friday at 4:24 PM

SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

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slow_poke_pete

Friday at 5:51 PM

SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg

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telstar_1

Friday at 5:58 PM

Slicker guides never did much for me

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Almighty1

Friday at 10:33 PM

Bobby said:
That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.

Good point as part of that time mentioned was before I was even alive.

While reports from the family's case focused entirely on the equipment rental charges, media records show that Ester Strogen originally started by paying $29.95 per quarter ($9.98 per month) in the 1960s for her combined telephone connection.
The actual base cost for standard residential telephone service over a 42-year period (spanning roughly 1964 to 2006) reveals how basic connection costs evolved compared to the equipment rental fees:

Historical Phone Service Rates

1960s – 1970s Base Rate: Standard local phone service was heavily subsidized and tightly regulated under the Bell System monopoly. A basic landline package with unlimited local calling typically cost between $5.00 and $10.00 per month.
1980s – 2000s Post-Deregulation Rate: Following the AT&T divestiture in 1984, base line service rates steadily climbed due to the introduction of subscriber line charges, touch-tone fees, and local infrastructure adjustments. By 2006, basic flat-rate local residential phone service hovered around $15.00 to $25.00 per month (excluding long-distance packages and taxes).

The True Lifetime Service Bill

Assuming an average baseline connection fee of roughly $12.00 a month over that 42-year span, the line connectivity itself would have realistically accumulated to approximately $6,000 in raw cash payouts.
When you bundle the actual service costs together with the escalating equipment rental fees, the total cumulative out-of-pocket phone expenses over those four decades easily crossed $12,000 to $14,000. Long-distance phone calls—which were billed entirely by the minute back then and could cost up to 15 to 30 cents per minute—would add significantly more to that historical total depending on usage.

The widely publicized calculation stems from a viral news story from 2006 involving a widow named Ester Strogen. Her family discovered she had been continuously leasing two rotary dial telephones from AT&T for 42 years.
The total cost—which actually came out to more than $14,000 by the time the lease was canceled—was calculated based on the following legacy telecom structure:

The Monthly Fee: At the time her granddaughters discovered the charges, the ongoing leasing fee was $29.10 per month for the two outdated phones.
The Math: Over 42 years (504 months), paying roughly $24 to $30 a month accumulates to between $12,000 and $14,600 ($29.10 × 504 months = $14,666.40).

Why did this happen?
Prior to the landmark breakup of AT&T ("Ma Bell") in 1984, consumers were legally not allowed to own their phones; they were required to lease them directly from the phone company.
When the laws changed and phone ownership became legal, AT&T spun off its rental division into a company called QLT Consumer Lease Services. Millions of customers, particularly elderly individuals who were used to seeing a single unified phone bill, simply never realized that the small recurring "equipment lease" line-item could be canceled by buying a cheap phone at a retail store.

Yes, leasing absolutely cost that much in reality, and the math is entirely accurate. However, the calculations performed by the family did contain one major historical nuance: they multiplied the final 2006 rate across all 42 years, which means the actual total cash paid out was likely a bit lower.
The original viral story focused on 82-year-old widow Ester Strogen from Canton, Ohio, who paid $29.10 a month for two black rotary phones until her family intervened in July 2006.
The reality behind how the cost reached that staggering total breaks down into two distinct phases:

Phase 1: The Historical Base Rate (1960s – 1984)

When Strogen first got the phones in the 1960s, renting was a legal mandate and cost a fraction of the 2006 price—usually just a few dollars a month.

The "Insurance" Mirage: In exchange for that fee, Ma Bell promised free, lifetime maintenance. If the phone broke, they replaced it instantly at no extra cost.
The Cost-Plus Reality: Because these solid-state phones were built like tanks out of heavy plastic and steel, they almost never broke. Consumers paid a continuous premium for decades for a repair service they rarely used.

Phase 2: The Deregulation Rate Hikes (1984 – 2006)

After AT&T was forced to break up its monopoly in 1984, the rental side of the business was shifted to Lucent Technologies and later a legacy holding company. To maximize profit off a shrinking customer base, they steadily increased the monthly rental fees over the next 20 years.

By 2006, the rental cost had quietly ballooned to roughly $14.55 per phone per month.
When the family discovered the $29.10 monthly charge, they looked back at the 42-year span and estimated the collective loss at over $14,000.

Even adjusted for historical inflation—where $2 a month in 1964 had the purchasing power of roughly $20 today—Ester Strogen and hundreds of thousands of other elderly Americans realistically paid thousands of dollars out-of-pocket for standard desk phones they could have purchased at retail for $10.

The exact out-of-pocket dollar amount Ester Strogen paid over those 42 years was never publicly determined, as neither AT&T nor the family had access to monthly billing records stretching all the way back to the 1960s.
The figures reported in the media are entirely mathematical estimates based on the 2006 rate. The two primary numbers used to define the "cost" are:

The Stated Media Total: More than $14,000.
The Exact Family Formula: $14,666.40. This was derived by taking her final recorded bill of $29.10 per month and multiplying it across the full 42 years (504 months).

What the True Cash Cost Likely Was

Because AT&T did not charge $29.10 a month back in 1964, the true historical cash sum she handed over was lower than $14,000. In the 1960s and 1970s, basic phone lease fees were generally bundled into standard service or itemized at just $1.00 to $2.00 a month per phone.
If we realistically assume she paid lower base rates for the first 20 years before the post-1984 deregulation price hikes took effect, a realistic estimate of the actual cash paid is between $5,000 and $7,000.

The Real Cost When Adjusted for Inflation

While the family's $14,000 calculation overestimates the raw cash paid, it actually underestimates the true economic damage when factoring in the time value of money.
Paying $2.00 a month for equipment in 1964 sounds minor, but due to severe inflation during the 1970s, those early single dollars had the purchasing power of roughly $20.00 each in 2006 terms. If you adjust every historical lower monthly payment upward to account for inflation, Ester Strogen realistically lost the equivalent of well over $15,000 in modern purchasing power by renting instead of buying.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:28 PM

telstar_1 said:
Slicker guides never did much for me

me either. sometimes it seems like things disappear when they start changing sh*t around :biggrin

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:43 PM

Strega said:
I looked for wrecked trains on ebay and those are hard to find too!

you would be better off looking in ca for a train wreck to nowhere :biggrin

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jcrandall

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Yesterday at 8:42 PM · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum

Channels on DIRECTV Satellite and not on Stream/Internet

So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.

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KyL416

Aug 3, 2026

WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.

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harshness

Oct 15, 2026

One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.

mario315

Friday at 11:55 PM

harshness said:
One might get the impression that what DIRECTV does, or doesn't, is becoming far less consequential than it used to be.

KyL416

Saturday at 12:00 AM

WPLG/10 Miami is now available to stream customers

The CW stations WCWW/25 South Bend and WBKP/5 Marquette are testing on the stream server

Last week they also added a bunch of CW stations that are still not available to sat customers:
WETM-DT/19 Elmira
WJET-DT/25 Erie
KLFY-DT/11 Lafayette LA
KARD-DT/15 Monroe
WVBT-DT/44 Norfolk
WTWO-DT/3 Terre Haute
WFXV-DT/34 Utica
KFDX-DT/4 Wichita Falls

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mario315

Saturday at 12:07 AM

Well, that was fast ! DTV Stream brought back WTCN's HD signal today.

I have to assume the station signing up a week ago as the Miami Heat affiliate here (to carry their games) did the trick. NBA magic !!!

Or the station engineer took care of the problem after hearing about it.

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darren_s

Yesterday at 8:29 PM

KyL416 said:
WNPX/28 Nashville (The new home of the Predators) and WMYD/20 Detroit (the new home of the Pistons) are testing on the stream server.

Channel 28 Nashville hasn't been added so far, correct?

KyL416

Yesterday at 8:42 PM

WNPX Nashville and WMYD Detroit were added to stream about 2 months ago.

They also now have PRDTRS/651 for those in Predators territory outside of the Nashville DMA and PISTONS/663-2 for those in Pistons territory outside of the Detroit DMA.

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TheForce

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Last reply Yesterday at 8:32 PM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Apple Event September 2026

Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.

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comfortably_numb

Oct 10, 2026

Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

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Foxbat

Saturday at 11:47 AM

If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.

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comfortably_numb

Saturday at 11:56 AM

Foxbat said:
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!

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harshness

Yesterday at 12:18 PM

comfortably_numb said:
medieval chain armor

Aka "mail" or "maille".

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 7:05 PM

IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:31 PM

comfortably_numb said:
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me

slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 8:32 PM

Foxbat said:
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00

. can we say over priced garbage!!!

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meStevo

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 8:17 PM · posted in The Sports Section

NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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rvvaquero

Tuesday at 11:33 AM

Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.

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Yespage

Thursday at 9:15 AM

rvvaquero said:
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.

Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.

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b4pjoe

Thursday at 9:53 AM

Yespage said:
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.

Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.

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rvvaquero

Thursday at 11:50 AM

Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.

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meStevo

Thursday at 10:53 PM

View: https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/2113438192913588676?s=20

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meStevo

Yesterday at 8:17 PM

Got to unfurl and hold the flag at Allegiant for the anthem today - amazing experience.

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