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cparker

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Last reply Sep 30, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Whole house DVR

I've waited years. No whole house DVR. Sorry, but Sling just ain't it. I have a pair of VIP 6xx receivers and all my TVs are HD TVs. Both receivers are connected to my network. And for some reason Dish apparently can't or doesn't CARE to figure out how to link them together.

DirecTV apparently has this now. It's funny. I've been with Dish since before they even had installers. They sent you everything in a box and you self installed.

But this ONE THING could be what pushes me over to the other side. My wife has been asking about whole house DVR for years. Every time I've looked at DirecTV it looked like it would cost me a LOT to get started and the monthly charge was considerably more. Now.... not so much. Might be time to have another look at D*

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kellerpaulsdad

Sep 28, 2010

Whole home dvr is ok it works but not like you are expecting, you must have hd recievers at any location you want to share viewing. then you can only use at 2 locations at once so its almost the same as a 622/ 625 on dish.

Liquidforce88

Sep 28, 2010

Whole Home Skinny

You can network all MRV capable receivers together. That means all HD equipment. If you want more than 1 DVR it's an extra 200. Want more than 1 HD it's an extra 100. You can get 1 HD & 1 HDVR free on the initial order. Any other HDDVR's or HD and you will pay 200 and 100 for them.

So you can network several MRV receivers. The thing is only the DVR's can DVR....thats right I don't agree with them calling it Whole Home DVR, because it's not. All those HD receivers can not pause live TV. That is a major feature for me. Yes you can watch what is on the DVR's at the locations with the HD receivers, but only 1 receiver at a time can access what is on a DVR, unless they have changed it recently because every time I have tried it only one could work at a time.

So if you want to pause at multiple locations you are going to need more than 1 DVR, and you want more than 2 HD locations, be ready to pony up some cash to get them.

cparker

Sep 28, 2010

I already have my receivers on hard wired ethernet so that's no problem. I've never activated the EHD so that's not an issue. And I was just on D*'s site and the promo running for the next 9 days would give me one HD DVR free and instead of just an HD receiver I could get a second HD DVR for $99.

What D*'s site does NOT show me is how much it would cost to add an AM21 to the main HD DVR or the other HD DVR. Why is that such a secret?

And if I add the AM21 to both receivers, does that then allow me to record 3 things at a time or are you still limited to recording only 2 things at a time? And come to think of it.... if you add an AM21 for OTA, can you record from the AM21 (OTA) and one satellite tuner while watching the other satellite tuner in real time? 'Cause that's how we'd want to use it. Otherwise I'd just go OTA direct to the TV if we can only record off 2 tuners at a time.

Wife's reaction to all of this is "We already HAVE satellite service", to which I reply, "Yeah, but we don't have whole house DVR AND we could save $400 this year on service."

I'm not sure she's on board with changing. I thought if nothing else she'd go for saving $400.

DishSubLA

Sep 29, 2010

kellerpaulsdad said:
Whole home dvr is ok it works but not like you are expecting, you must have hd recievers at any location you want to share viewing. then you can only use at 2 locations at once so its almost the same as a 622/ 625 on dish.

Thanks for the clarification. I have been trying to find out how it really worked. It certainly isn't what I had hoped. It is certainly far from "whole home" DVR solution. I don't think any provider out there has a true "whole home" DVR solution. They all seem to be variants of DirecTV's.

SpaethCo

Sep 29, 2010

cparker said:
And if I add the AM21 to both receivers, does that then allow me to record 3 things at a time or are you still limited to recording only 2 things at a time?

The HR2x series only has 2 tuners -- unlike the Dish receivers, the AM21 requires the resources of one of those tuners when it is being used. So you can add the AM21, but you will still only be able to record 2 things at once.

As for the whole home DVR, the implementation on DirecTV still feels half-baked, but can work quite well if you can live with the negatives.

The Good
- Same-as-local video quality when streaming over the network. (Digital is digital)
- When you pull up your list of recorded programs, you're presented with a sorted list of all of the programs on every DVR on the network in one common menu. The user selection and playback interface is well integrated as a whole-home unit.
- User AI for viewing and management is seamless. You can navigate (ff/rewind/etc), stop on one unit play from the same point on another unit, and delete programs out of the central list regardless of DVR.

The Bad
- Each DVR can only stream one program over the network at a time, so don't plan on getting a DVR and a bunch of HD receivers and expect to be happy with the outcome.
- Each program can only be accessed by one DVR at a time. 2 people can't watch the same recording at a time, and you can't pause in one room and resume in another like the DirecTV commercials show. You have to hit stop to free up the program on one DVR, then you can select it for playback on another DVR.

The Ugly
- There is no central timer management. Even though the DVRs are networked together to share recorded content, you need to setup timers for recording on each DVR independently. There is no central to-do list, and the boxes cannot push a recording onto another DVR in the event of a conflict, so a good portion of your recording conflict management needs to be handled manually.
- The HD non-DVR receivers can schedule a new recording and have it sent to a DVR (similar to submitting a recording via the on-line tool), but that is the extent of their integration. Still no common To-Do, and the receivers cannot delete timers from the DVRs.

cparker

Sep 29, 2010

First of all, thank you for the detailed response. I know I don't have all of the information and this helps a great deal.

espaeth said:
The HR2x series only has 2 tuners -- unlike the Dish receivers, the AM21 requires the resources of one of those tuners when it is being used. So you can add the AM21, but you will still only be able to record 2 things at once.

We only record 2 things at once now on the E* receivers. We have to balance what we're recording against what we want to watch WHILE things are recording so that we maintain the ability to just watch TV on that receiver. If I want to watch a hockey game on a satellite tuner, my wife knows to set recordings to only record from 1 satellite tuner and if she wants to record a second program while I'm watching hockey it has to be on the OTA tuner. Since we also have a VIP612 in the bedroom, she can also decide to simply record in there instead of the TV I'm watching hockey on. So I guess we're already adhering to the "only 2 tuners recording at a time" rule. From what you're saying above it sounds like even with an AM21 I wouldn't be able to record 2 programs and also watch something in real time.
Example: Record from a satellite tuner and the AM21... would I still be able to watch something real time on satellite or is the unit now tied up due to recording?

espaeth said:
The Good
- Same-as-local video quality when streaming over the network. (Digital is digital)
- When you pull up your list of recorded programs, you're presented with a sorted list of all of the programs on every DVR on the network in one common menu. The user selection and playback interface is well integrated as a whole-home unit.
- User AI for viewing and management is seamless. You can navigate (ff/rewind/etc), stop on one unit play from the same point on another unit, and delete programs out of the central list regardless of DVR.

The Bad
- Each DVR can only stream one program over the network at a time, so don't plan on getting a DVR and a bunch of HD receivers and expect to be happy with the outcome.
- Each program can only be accessed by one DVR at a time. 2 people can't watch the same recording at a time, and you can't pause in one room and resume in another like the DirecTV commercials show. You have to hit stop to free up the program on one DVR, then you can select it for playback on another DVR.

We would only have 2 HD DVRs. The primary goal would be able to watch any recorded program in either the bedroom or living room regardless of which DVR actually recorded it. I heard D* has some computer program you can run that would let (for example) my son access the DVRs and watch TV through his computer. He's have to watch from a DVR that's not currently streaming over the network. Might not be the most convenient, but he has NO access to satellite TV right now so it might be a plus for him. This assumes that teh program I've heard about both exists and that it works OK.

espaeth said:
The Ugly
- There is no central timer management. Even though the DVRs are networked together to share recorded content, you need to setup timers for recording on each DVR independently. There is no central to-do list, and the boxes cannot push a recording onto another DVR in the event of a conflict, so a good portion of your recording conflict management needs to be handled manually.

We have 2 DVRs now and we have to be at each one to set up programming. Sit in front of living room TV and set up that DVR for recording. Go to bedroom TV and set up that DVR for recording. If wife forgets there's a hockey game on (for example) then she has to go into the living room and delete timers from that DVR and go into the bedroom and recreate them in that DVR. If she could simply sit in one place and set them both up, even if she was bouncing back and forth between the 2 of them, at least she wouldn't be running back and forth between 2 physical TV locations. This could be a plus.

espaeth said:
- The HD non-DVR receivers can schedule a new recording and have it sent to a DVR (similar to submitting a recording via the on-line tool), but that is the extent of their integration. Still no common To-Do, and the receivers cannot delete timers from the DVRs.

We wouldn't have any HD non-DVRs so this probably isn't an issue.

Right now it SOUNDS LIKE we might be going backwards in our ability to record multiple programs at the same time if I switch to D*. It is not uncommon for us to have both DVRs recording from 2 tuners (each) while we are watching something in real time on both (me watching hockey in the living room while recording 2 programs and she watching NCIS or something in the bedroom while recording 2 programs in there as well). We make fairly heavy use of the DVRs. I'm beginning to wonder if I shouldn't be looking at a separate DVR device (media server) just for the OTA programming. A lot of the shows that go onto the DVR are available OTA. HMMmmmmm..... food for thought. I just don't know how I'd distribute it.

SpaethCo

Sep 29, 2010

cparker said:
Example: Record from a satellite tuner and the AM21... would I still be able to watch something real time on satellite or is the unit now tied up due to recording?

It's tied up. The AM21 doesn't add a tuner, it just lets one of the unit's internal tuners pull from OTA instead of sat.

cparker said:
I heard D* has some computer program you can run that would let (for example) my son access the DVRs and watch TV through his computer. He's have to watch from a DVR that's not currently streaming over the network.

The software does indeed exist, but you can only use it to watch programming off a DVR drive. The programming providers have required DirecTV to lock that software down though, so there is a good chance it won't work for you. I have a combination of 5 netbooks and laptops in the house, and none of them meet the hardware / driver requirements to comply with the software's copy protection implementation.

I did get the software to run on one of my desktop systems with a standard NVidia video card, but the video stuttered like crazy. Others have reported success, but YMMV.

cparker said:
We have 2 DVRs now and we have to be at each one to set up programming. Sit in front of living room TV and set up that DVR for recording. Go to bedroom TV and set up that DVR for recording. If wife forgets there's a hockey game on (for example) then she has to go into the living room and delete timers from that DVR and go into the bedroom and recreate them in that DVR. If she could simply sit in one place and set them both up, even if she was bouncing back and forth between the 2 of them, at least she wouldn't be running back and forth between 2 physical TV locations. This could be a plus.

DirecTV DOES NOT have central management as I stated above. You still need to schedule the recordings on the individual units the same way you do today; the DVRs can only schedule on the local unit. The HD non-DVR receivers have a feature where they can send a timer event to any DVR on the network, but that's it. The HD non-DVR receivers can't manage timers on DVRs after that. The principle advantage is once a recording is on any given unit, you can watch it anywhere.

cparker said:
It is not uncommon for us to have both DVRs recording from 2 tuners (each) while we are watching something in real time on both (me watching hockey in the living room while recording 2 programs and she watching NCIS or something in the bedroom while recording 2 programs in there as well). We make fairly heavy use of the DVRs. I'm beginning to wonder if I shouldn't be looking at a separate DVR device (media server) just for the OTA programming.

There are a number of options for OTA. In my case I push all OTA recording off to a TivoHD after giving up on a HD Homerun & media recorder solution. Tivo's guide data, recording schedules, and conflict resolution just worked better for my needs than any of the software I was looking at 2 years ago. I take my OTA recordings, download them, recode them to H.264 and archive shows. If you're not going to do that, probably your easiest option would just be to add a 3rd DirecTV DVR to your house at $5/mo to get the same number of tuners you have now with Dish receivers.

mike123abc

Sep 29, 2010

DishSubLA said:
Thanks for the clarification. I have been trying to find out how it really worked. It certainly isn't what I had hoped. It is certainly far from "whole home" DVR solution. I don't think any provider out there has a true "whole home" DVR solution. They all seem to be variants of DirecTV's.

AT&T's Uverse has it. You can record 4 shows at once and playback on any TV at the same time. You can pause on one TV go to another and continue the show if you want.

AT&T's solution is limited by their delivery bandwidth, not the actual DVR. It could handle 4 HD streams if they ever get their rickety DSL system to deliver 4 at once.

harshness

Sep 30, 2010

espaeth said:
It's tied up. The AM21 doesn't add a tuner, it just lets one of the unit's internal tuners pull from OTA instead of sat.

This is not an accurate statement. The AM21 contains two ATSC tuners and it pushes out video streams through a USB connection, not an RF connection.

SpaethCo

Sep 30, 2010

harshness said:
This is not an accurate statement. The AM21 contains two ATSC tuners and it pushes out video streams through a USB connection, not an RF connection.

There still only exists the ability for 2 tuners to be used by the DVR based on the architecture of the system.

So your correction is noted, I guess, even though it changes absolutely nothing in the context of this discussion.

DishSubLA

Sep 30, 2010

mike123abc said:
AT&T's Uverse has it. You can record 4 shows at once and playback on any TV at the same time. You can pause on one TV go to another and continue the show if you want.

AT&T's solution is limited by their delivery bandwidth, not the actual DVR. It could handle 4 HD streams if they ever get their rickety DSL system to deliver 4 at once.

I've been aware of AT&T Uverse "whole home" solution and I don't count it as being a real one either because of the effect or the result of its limitations of bandwidth that diminishes the 4 channel experience into only a TWO HD streams (channels) /I] into each residence experience and we are HD in this house, big time. In other words there is an unacceptable cost or compromise to using Uverse "whole home" solution with HD. However, I do believe Uverse has addresed the limitation in some areas by now providing an additional HD stream for a total of three, but still, the result is a diminished experience and not an enhancement as as many as 4 or even 6 HD streams (channels) are being recorded or viewed in our household at any one time.

My point is that any "whole home" solution has to at least maintain it best bandwidth situation, in Uverse's case it is 4 channel (in SD), and at an appropriate scale for a family household: hubby, wife, and at least 2 kids? Sorry, but when adding HD service a providers' quantity of service decreases by a whopping 50%, leaving at least half the household not able to even watch live the HD channels, let alone record them, it just doesn't meet the standard.

Further, while Uverse does allow for up to 4 SD channels recording at any one time, I don't think Uverse "whole home" solution provides for each of the four channels to be viewed in separate 4 rooms by 4 different people at the same time. Please correct me on that if I have it wrong but that was last I knew of Uverse's solution. While I'm willing to concede that if a provider allows at a minimum of only one tuner per person in a 4 person household for the "whole home" solution, it would meet only the most restrictive notion of such a solution, but it would still have to be considered a diminished one as each individual would not be able to watch one channel while recording another at the same time in a 4 person household, a reasonably sized household, but, yes a one tuner solution could work in some households were there is less demand than others.

Again, I don't think there is any provider out there who provides a true "whole home" solution. Certainly not at the appropriate scale for multi-person households. However, I understand the point you were making and appreciate it.

jetsetter

Sep 30, 2010

Liquidforce88 said:
Whole Home Skinny

You can network all MRV capable receivers together. That means all HD equipment. If you want more than 1 DVR it's an extra 200. Want more than 1 HD it's an extra 100. You can get 1 HD & 1 HDVR free on the initial order. Any other HDDVR's or HD and you will pay 200 and 100 for them.

So you can network several MRV receivers. The thing is only the DVR's can DVR....thats right I don't agree with them calling it Whole Home DVR, because it's not. All those HD receivers can not pause live TV. That is a major feature for me. Yes you can watch what is on the DVR's at the locations with the HD receivers, but only 1 receiver at a time can access what is on a DVR, unless they have changed it recently because every time I have tried it only one could work at a time.

So if you want to pause at multiple locations you are going to need more than 1 DVR, and you want more than 2 HD locations, be ready to pony up some cash to get them.

Does anyone know if FIOS Home DVR viewing works the same way? Does it have the same limitations as Direct's? Thanks

cparker

Sep 30, 2010

OK, well I guess the D* whole home DVR solution probably won't work for us here. If we wanted to DVR a pair of network shows in the same time slot, we would either be taking one DVR completely out of comission as far as watching live TV or we'd have one show on each of the 2 DVRs. If we wanted to record something from HGTV at the same time as those 2 network shows (this happens a lot, believe it or not), we'd just basically be screwed on one DVR. One whole TV out of comission because the DVR can't handle more than 2 streams.

Now if I came up with an alternative solution for the OTA recording that would be great except the expense of setting that up would negate any benefit of switching to D* and I'd lose the "whole house DVR" if I'm using more than one complete system of doing things.

I guess whole house DVR is still a pie in the sky (pun intended).

I would actually consider going back to cable and getting a couple of HD TiVo units if I was sure they could actually get them to work with the switched signal being used by Time Warner now. Seems to be a pain to set up and keep working reliably. And how many things can a TiVo record at the same time while watching live TV? I think it's the same limitation as D* (1) if they're using the dual tuner cable card.

harshness

Sep 30, 2010

cparker said:
If we wanted to DVR a pair of network shows in the same time slot, we would either be taking one DVR completely out of comission as far as watching live TV or we'd have one show on each of the 2 DVRs.

There exists another option over in D* land where you could, for quite a few dollars less each month than with DISH Network, have three DVRs ($17 lease fee for two E* DVRs versus $10 for three D* DVRs). Over the course of a couple of years, the lease fee savings goes a long way towards offsetting the initial lease entry cost of the third receiver.

harshness

Sep 30, 2010

espaeth said:
So your correction is noted, I guess, even though it changes absolutely nothing in the context of this discussion.

It certainly adds substantial credibility to the discussion to have the simplest facts right.

mike123abc

Sep 30, 2010

DishSubLA said:
I've been aware of AT&T Uverse "whole home" solution and I don't count it as being a real one either because of the effect or the result of its limitations of bandwidth that diminishes the 4 channel experience into only a TWO HD streams (channels) /I] into each residence experience and we are HD in this house, big time. In other words there is an unacceptable cost or compromise to using Uverse "whole home" solution with HD. However, I do believe Uverse has addresed the limitation in some areas by now providing an additional HD stream for a total of three, but still, the result is a diminished experience and not an enhancement as as many as 4 or even 6 HD streams (channels) are being recorded or viewed in our household at any one time.

My point is that any "whole home" solution has to at least maintain it best bandwidth situation, in Uverse's case it is 4 channel (in SD), and at an appropriate scale for a family household: hubby, wife, and at least 2 kids? Sorry, but when adding HD service a providers' quantity of service decreases by a whopping 50%, leaving at least half the household not able to even watch live the HD channels, let alone record them, it just doesn't meet the standard.

Further, while Uverse does allow for up to 4 SD channels recording at any one time, I don't think Uverse "whole home" solution provides for each of the four channels to be viewed in separate 4 rooms by 4 different people at the same time. Please correct me on that if I have it wrong but that was last I knew of Uverse's solution. While I'm willing to concede that if a provider allows at a minimum of only one tuner per person in a 4 person household for the "whole home" solution, it would meet only the most restrictive notion of such a solution, but it would still have to be considered a diminished one as each individual would not be able to watch one channel while recording another at the same time in a 4 person household, a reasonably sized household, but, yes a one tuner solution could work in some households were there is less demand than others.

Again, I don't think there is any provider out there who provides a true "whole home" solution. Certainly not at the appropriate scale for multi-person households. However, I understand the point you were making and appreciate it.

The HD limit is not the DVR but the DSL connection.

Uverse supports 4 TVs at once playing back/watching 4 different streams. They can even all be watching the same recorded program at different spots in the program with rewind/FF working independently.

https://uma.att.com/general/2086-UMA-X-DMA1-IFRAME.html

You of course need the receiver box at each of the 4 TVs to talk to the DVR.

The commercials show all the time 4 people watching different shows at the same time. The also love pointing out the ability to pause on one TV and go to another TV and resume.

Again the limit of the system is the DSL only providing 2 and in some areas now 3 HD streams at once.

There of course are going to be restrictions. If you are recording 4 shows at once, you will have to watch a previous recording or one of the current recordings. You cannot watch a 5th show live while the other 4 are recording.

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TRG

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Prescription drug costs

Now that I'm retired, obviously I have different health care insurance. I take 2 prescriptions. With my old insurance I didn't have to pay for either of them, now I do. It's not a huge amount but it led me to dig a little into the cost of prescription medications. I have been using Walgreens for the longest time. But what I found was that Walgreens price is 4.8 times more for one of my prescriptions and the other is 2.3 percent more compared to the lowest price pharmacy. If you pay for prescription medications you might want to have a look at trumprx and see if you can get a lower price.

https://trumprx.gov/

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comfortably_numb

Today at 6:09 PM

I run them through several different providers to see who has the lowest cost

Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

Also...

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You can also price them through the CareCard and WellRx apps.

Sometimes Amazon Pharmacy is cheapest.

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telstar_1

Today at 7:48 PM

TrumpRx?!?

I went on Medicare recently (not an "advantage" plan) and my prescriptions at HyVee were very low out of pocket. The clerk said she was putting them on "Good Rx".

Jimbo

Today at 7:54 PM

telstar_1 said:
TrumpRx?!?

I went on Medicare recently (not an "advantage" plan) and my prescriptions at HyVee were very low out of pocket. The clerk said she was putting them on "Good Rx".

When I went on Medicare, I was paying $10 a Month for my most expensive drug .... NOW I am paying $ 375 for the 1st 3 months and $120 for the rest of the year, every 3 months. (this is a Tier 4 drug) the rest of my drugs are Tier 1 and are free.

Mr Tony

Today at 8:06 PM

I'm lucky. I have half a dozen pills and Continuous Glucose Monitor (diabetic) and it's all covered

On my old plan (different job) the pills cost about $100 for 90 days and couldn't get the CGM. Insurance wouldn't give a discount.

osu1991

Today at 8:12 PM

I take 10mg Rosuvastatin (Crestor). I was paying $34 for a 90day supply at Walgreens last year when I was on Blue Cross. My Blue Cross premiums were going up to $1800 a month this year, so I switched to an Ambetter Bronze plan (I think that's a Cigna company) for $825 a month. I now have a $40 copay for doctors visits which is fine as I usually only see them once or twice a year, so a huge cost savings. My Rosuvastatin was going to go up to around $90 for a 90 day supply at Walgreens and even more at CVS or one of the local family pharmacies. Ordering online thru my insurance portal from Express Scripts it's $0.74 for a 90 day supply.

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comfortably_numb

Today at 8:18 PM

telstar_1 said:
TrumpRx?!?

Scripts arrive in a gold paper sack.

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dishstaller

2 minutes ago

comfortably_numb said:
Usually it's Walmart or Sam's + GoodRx

I'm fortunate and don't take any medications. A couple years ago I had to take some antibiotics and used the GoodRx app. Went to Walmart and the person behind the desk knew me and told me to just buy them outright....the GoodRx price was a LOT higher. She said they aren't supposed to tell customers when they see they are being screwed.

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Bruce

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Last reply 7 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

thehill.com

That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Today at 12:11 PM

Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

Bad News For Blu-ray Fans: Sony Has Stopped Making a Popular Player | Cord Cutters News

Sony has discontinued its final standalone UHD Blu-ray player, the UBP-X700/K, ending shipments of the device with no successor model announced. The move, first spotted by Japanese website Kunkoku.jp and confirmed through the status of the product on Sony’s own website, marks the company’s...

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dishstaller

Today at 2:54 PM

Bruce said:
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

Hate to hear that. If you don't physically have something in your hand, you don't really own it.

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Bruce

Today at 4:29 PM

dishstaller said:
Hate to hear that. If you don't physically have something in your hand, you don't really own it.

Even a physical disc purchase is considered a license, just extremely harder to pull access vs digital.

But once new players are no longer sold and older players quit working, that takes care of the access to your library.

See LaserDiscs for one example of that happening.

ncted

Today at 4:42 PM

Bruce said:
Sony is discontinuing it's last 4K disc player, Panasonic has been rumored to be doing the same, the end of physical media is unfortunately, about to happen.

Bad News For Blu-ray Fans: Sony Has Stopped Making a Popular Player | Cord Cutters News

Sony has discontinued its final standalone UHD Blu-ray player, the UBP-X700/K, ending shipments of the device with no successor model announced. The move, first spotted by Japanese website Kunkoku.jp and confirmed through the status of the product on Sony’s own website, marks the company’s...

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I am so done with Sony on so many levels. This is just one small piece of it.

Jimbo

51 minutes ago

ncted said:
I am so done with Sony on so many levels. This is just one small piece of it.

I Love my Sony equipment

dishstaller

13 minutes ago

Bruce said:
just extremely harder to pull access vs digital.

And dangerous if you get my drift.

navychop

7 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
I Love my Sony equipment

That's an odd name for it.

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 8 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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EatMyVolts

Today at 7:53 PM

One Way Or Another -- Blondie

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long_time_Dish

Today at 8:02 PM

One Way Street - Streets

RaiderPower

Today at 8:04 PM

Working My Way Back To You - The Spinners

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long_time_Dish

55 minutes ago

Find A Way To My Heart - Phil Collins

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dishstaller

8 minutes ago

Heart of Glass - Blondie

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SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply 20 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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Strega

Yesterday at 2:34 PM

That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 7:02 PM

Strega said:
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.

Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

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AZ.

Yesterday at 9:10 PM

Almighty1 said:
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".

someone is showing their age

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:38 PM

AZ. said:
someone is showing their age

LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 1:39 PM

Almighty1 said:
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
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so that persons in hiding lol :biggrin

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 1:41 PM

remembers when ATT had stores and leased home phones

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dishstaller

Today at 3:14 PM

My Wife was recently in an antique store and saw a rotary desk phone and it had one of those sticker overlays that had a business listed with phone number under each number on the dial. She looked closer and it had my old Radio Shack listed under the 8...she bought it. Pretty cool keepsake. Back then I rented vhs movies as well so I had it listed as Radio Shack / Movie Gallery and then the phone number.

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Almighty1

48 minutes ago

I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

Bobby

20 minutes ago

Almighty1 said:
I remember this in the news too...

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.

www.nbcnews.com

That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.

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TvMind

Last reply 28 minutes ago · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

SES 1 101° W Horizontal "Issues" a.k.a "I want my M(e)TV"

Howdy folks long time no write.

Issue(s): Horizontal transponders (esp. Weigel mux) breakup/mosaic/sputtering audio, JTV less so (but received perfectly up until a month or so ago.
Vertical is fine (Daystar). Up until recently couldn't even get any signal on Weigel Mux but JTV was perfect.

What I did to improve things: A slight westward move improved reception but only slightly (approx 72 on the micro HD, sorry no dB to post). I removed the 3-way C-Band splitter and used a 2-way to get a 1-2 db signal gain ( the power port goes to the Startrak - the micro HD doesn't have enough juice ! (1st clue) even after swapping the switching power supply it came with with a heftier linear 12 V supply (less RFI too !).
I have had issues with the uHD before signal breaking up that a reboot would clear up (clue #2 = dying tuner?) - FYI, I reinforced the IF input and removed all flux from the pcb completely with a Flux Removal Pen (MG Chemicals Cat No. 4140-P) which definitely makes a huge difference.

I went outside and pushed and pulled reflector slightly and no improvement. Pole (actually tower in yard - the neighbours love me..NOT) is plumb, checked with carpenters level. Dish was last peaked in 2017 or so, after overhauling 24" Von Weise, new Acme, fresh grease, etc. Focal length, f/d ratio etc meticulously adjusted. One panel has a tear so planning to repair that this weekend when my cousin comes over ( to help me out (old guy here) forecast calls for sunshine.

What has changed: My utility company has installed new high tension line poles (one smack dab in the middle of 101°W target! But they put it in last year and reception (of JTV (HOR) at least) was fine, BUT when they came out to transfer the wires over this year from the old (sawed in half) pole that's about when the troubles started (coincidence?), but again Daystar (VER) was fine. I always had this pole in the light of sight of 101° before with no issues. (fyi my zenith sat 74° is unobstucted, but can't test)

In the meantime Weigel mux is trying to break in MOSTLY in LATE at night (less cell usage?) (audio not video except for a frame here or there) so don't know what has changed with this mux which suddenly "woke up". I have never had to fuss with dish moves on this satellite ( the slightest move +/- motor clicks loses lock, wheres normally on C-band I can go significantly wider east or west and still have a strong signal ( have these gone "spot beam" or narrower somehow and what is the slight difference in Az listed on Lyngsat to 100.9° affect things ( isn't that the declination i.e. requiring a tweak of declination?).

Long story short (too late, ha), if I had another DVB-S2 box to try and / or a newer more stable PLL lnb ( I have been meaning to upgrade many a time but never got arround to it) I could determine if it's my antiquated receiving equipment, or my dish/feed alignment ( doubtful as it tracks everything from 55 °W to 133 ° W nicely.) or the dreaded 5G! (BUT only on HOR and not VER?).
I read another post where the OP (with his smaller 7.5 footer) played around with the illumination to peak desired transponder and reduce qrm on interfering/ stronger xpndrs (even on 103° W). So will play with that too - and cut away the RG-6 a and pull up a fresh section with new PPC and coax Seal. Open the throat cap see if any cobwebs are there and check servo operation (also changed in last maintence 10 years ago).

Finally, this will probably be the last chance I get to play with the BUD from the looks of it (providers leaving, auctioning off rest of spectrum imminent above 4.0 Ghz, and to keep the peace with neighbours so it would be nice to have that mux back for the long, cold and dark winters to comfort this old man before I call it quits and buy a VHF/UHF/FM Yagi and get MeTV, H&I from my Vermont local stations (checked at a friends today and they come in nicely - except ABC) .
Only one guy in town (Montreal) I may be able to get a receiver or PLL lnb from to try (RPS Sat) so hopefully with elimnate that as a possible culprit. Be nice to pick up a cheap or used PLL lnb to try w/o 5G BPF (money is tight )

Like others I couldn't care less about "tv" (well maybe just a liitle or a lot) it's the challenge that excites me , I can get MeTV other ways OTA (no pirate crap).

So what do you guys (and gals) think ?. p.s. I don't have a spectrum analyzer and there are def/ cell towers nearby (half a Km or so away).
Oh and time permitting will hammer out dings too and wire damaged mesh on one section for an extra dB or two. Hesitate to touch Declination, Elevation and pole mount but will play around with those a little too... Why is this mux for finicky suddenly ?(8psk, 5/6 fec, beamwidthetc.. man wish they went back to VER I think everthing would be fine! For the engineers out here does 5G QRM affect one poliarization (HOR) more than another (VER)? I understand the strong interference swamps out the input mixer/local oscilator in the hapless old C-band lnb (I think it at time affect KU too esp. LPB on 101°W KU - incidentally thos were weak or "gone' but are back almost at the time MeTV improved..hmm Terrestrial interference?

Any thoughts or suggestions ( cheap or free solutions please) greatly appreciated. Cheers.

p.p.s. Micro HD can't display Decades and Toons but records them fine so I can watch on another box/media player (Ali chip set issue). Another reason to upgrade.

Anybody interested in a nice C/KU system free ? (for next Spring/Summer 2027)

[Sami 10' mesh, Corotor II+, Eagle Aspen (very old) C-band lnb, Norsat Ku lnb, Channel Master C/Ku (H/V) switch, Startrak 400 Analog receiver w/ motor control, Geosat uHD DVD-S2, CW600S for Mpeg-2]

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Titanium

Oct 14, 2026

Our LNBFs are integrated with the feedhorn and no KU option. Maybe install an inline waveguide BPF such as:

www.ebay.com/itm/158077455896
www.ebay.com/itm/960059145385
www.ebay.com/itm/158007483799

brownsfan1

Monday at 9:22 PM

TvMind said:
Howdy folks long time no write.

Issue(s): Horizontal transponders (esp. Weigel mux) breakup/mosaic/sputtering audio, JTV less so (but received perfectly up until a month or so ago.
Vertical is fine (Daystar). Up until recently couldn't even get any signal on Weigel Mux but JTV was perfect.

What I did to improve things: A slight westward move improved reception but only slightly (approx 72 on the micro HD, sorry no dB to post). I removed the 3-way C-Band splitter and used a 2-way to get a 1-2 db signal gain ( the power port goes to the Startrak - the micro HD doesn't have enough juice ! (1st clue) even after swapping the switching power supply it came with with a heftier linear 12 V supply (less RFI too !).
I have had issues with the uHD before signal breaking up that a reboot would clear up (clue #2 = dying tuner?) - FYI, I reinforced the IF input and removed all flux from the pcb completely with a Flux Removal Pen (MG Chemicals Cat No. 4140-P) which definitely makes a huge difference.

I went outside and pushed and pulled reflector slightly and no improvement. Pole (actually tower in yard - the neighbours love me..NOT) is plumb, checked with carpenters level. Dish was last peaked in 2017 or so, after overhauling 24" Von Weise, new Acme, fresh grease, etc. Focal length, f/d ratio etc meticulously adjusted. One panel has a tear so planning to repair that this weekend when my cousin comes over ( to help me out (old guy here) forecast calls for sunshine.

What has changed: My utility company has installed new high tension line poles (one smack dab in the middle of 101°W target! But they put it in last year and reception (of JTV (HOR) at least) was fine, BUT when they came out to transfer the wires over this year from the old (sawed in half) pole that's about when the troubles started (coincidence?), but again Daystar (VER) was fine. I always had this pole in the light of sight of 101° before with no issues. (fyi my zenith sat 74° is unobstucted, but can't test)

In the meantime Weigel mux is trying to break in MOSTLY in LATE at night (less cell usage?) (audio not video except for a frame here or there) so don't know what has changed with this mux which suddenly "woke up". I have never had to fuss with dish moves on this satellite ( the slightest move +/- motor clicks loses lock, wheres normally on C-band I can go significantly wider east or west and still have a strong signal ( have these gone "spot beam" or narrower somehow and what is the slight difference in Az listed on Lyngsat to 100.9° affect things ( isn't that the declination i.e. requiring a tweak of declination?).

Long story short (too late, ha), if I had another DVB-S2 box to try and / or a newer more stable PLL lnb ( I have been meaning to upgrade many a time but never got arround to it) I could determine if it's my antiquated receiving equipment, or my dish/feed alignment ( doubtful as it tracks everything from 55 °W to 133 ° W nicely.) or the dreaded 5G! (BUT only on HOR and not VER?).
I read another post where the OP (with his smaller 7.5 footer) played around with the illumination to peak desired transponder and reduce qrm on interfering/ stronger xpndrs (even on 103° W). So will play with that too - and cut away the RG-6 a and pull up a fresh section with new PPC and coax Seal. Open the throat cap see if any cobwebs are there and check servo operation (also changed in last maintence 10 years ago).

Finally, this will probably be the last chance I get to play with the BUD from the looks of it (providers leaving, auctioning off rest of spectrum imminent above 4.0 Ghz, and to keep the peace with neighbours so it would be nice to have that mux back for the long, cold and dark winters to comfort this old man before I call it quits and buy a VHF/UHF/FM Yagi and get MeTV, H&I from my Vermont local stations (checked at a friends today and they come in nicely - except ABC) .
Only one guy in town (Montreal) I may be able to get a receiver or PLL lnb from to try (RPS Sat) so hopefully with elimnate that as a possible culprit. Be nice to pick up a cheap or used PLL lnb to try w/o 5G BPF (money is tight )

Like others I couldn't care less about "tv" (well maybe just a liitle or a lot) it's the challenge that excites me , I can get MeTV other ways OTA (no pirate crap).

So what do you guys (and gals) think ?. p.s. I don't have a spectrum analyzer and there are def/ cell towers nearby (half a Km or so away).
Oh and time permitting will hammer out dings too and wire damaged mesh on one section for an extra dB or two. Hesitate to touch Declination, Elevation and pole mount but will play around with those a little too... Why is this mux for finicky suddenly ?(8psk, 5/6 fec, beamwidthetc.. man wish they went back to VER I think everthing would be fine! For the engineers out here does 5G QRM affect one poliarization (HOR) more than another (VER)? I understand the strong interference swamps out the input mixer/local oscilator in the hapless old C-band lnb (I think it at time affect KU too esp. LPB on 101°W KU - incidentally thos were weak or "gone' but are back almost at the time MeTV improved..hmm Terrestrial interference?

Any thoughts or suggestions ( cheap or free solutions please) greatly appreciated. Cheers.

p.p.s. Micro HD can't display Decades and Toons but records them fine so I can watch on another box/media player (Ali chip set issue). Another reason to upgrade.

Anybody interested in a nice C/KU system free ? (for next Spring/Summer 2027)

[Sami 10' mesh, Corotor II+, Eagle Aspen (very old) C-band lnb, Norsat Ku lnb, Channel Master C/Ku (H/V) switch, Startrak 400 Analog receiver w/ motor control, Geosat uHD DVD-S2, CW600S for Mpeg-2]

I had the EXACT same problem happen to me with 101w, MeTV mux (Weigel). Working great when about 3 weeks ago I started to get the pixelating, especially at night. Sometimes Jewelry TV would also do it, sometimes not. Tweaked my dish. I have a Titanium 240 feed with the 5G filter 4.0-4.2 band pass. Every other satellite is working fine. Something on their end for sure. Power reduction? My signal seems fine like always. Running a Winegard 8.5 ft dish using a GT Media UHD V8. I'm sure my receiver isn't maybe sensitive enough for lower signal levels. Frustrating here too. I'm in the Canton, Ohio area. Thanks!

arlo

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

To me it looks like all of the intelligent things to diagnose the problem 'on the cheap' are being done.
I have my own thoughts of lnbf's using an external filter between the feed and coax. It would be cool to see what Brian could add.
Do his units have the filter before the actual LNA chip in the circuit? In other words, signal is focused at the lnbf throat. The probes for h & v polarity send the signal to.......filtering......then to the lna IC......
Or probes, lna, then filtering. Makes sense to trap the bad stuff before amplification to me.

On the cheap sometimes leaves questions. Enosat and El Bandido both use dvb-s pci cards and TBS USB receivers.
With those, and software. Signal analysis becomes sort of easy. Or tapping into your coax with a dc pass splitter, decoupling capacitor, and using a spectrum analyzer. Tuning across the LO band. Finding signal spikes. Digging deep.

Still making my decision on a (most probably) TBS PCIe tuner card. But I have tapped into my coax with my ancient but quite impressive HP spectrum analyzer and tinysa.
I don't have 5G interference so far that I know of. But have my suspects because I'm only able to snag signal from 131W in the winter when the leaves drop. But out of curiosity do scan it in the fall. And seem to be getting a signal that 'shouldn't' be there and a scan shows no channels. Far as I got.

An idea pops up to rig up an LNBF on a stick. Along with the tinysa and power supply and do some rogue signal searches. War Driving, of sorts. But. I wouldn't think that a chinabox, firmware based receiver would be of much help.
From what I see scanning across the frequency band. 5G cell transmission is always on and is very wide spectrum.
Whether anyone is actually using talking, texting, watching stupid human tricks on YouTube Makes no difference. The RF is there. So why would a C Band setup come and go? And what if you dumped the corotor and went modern voltage controlled polarity?

Another thought. Since you've learned the optimal position to place the scalar to illuminate out to the dish rim. And peaked the feed. There's most of a roll of aluminum flashing out in my garage that would most definitely wrap around my dish perimeter. That and a bag of large binder clips from the office supply. wally world. Ideas?

brownsfan1

Today at 8:23 PM

arlo said:
To me it looks like all of the intelligent things to diagnose the problem 'on the cheap' are being done.
I have my own thoughts of lnbf's using an external filter between the feed and coax. It would be cool to see what Brian could add.
Do his units have the filter before the actual LNA chip in the circuit? In other words, signal is focused at the lnbf throat. The probes for h & v polarity send the signal to.......filtering......then to the lna IC......
Or probes, lna, then filtering. Makes sense to trap the bad stuff before amplification to me.

On the cheap sometimes leaves questions. Enosat and El Bandido both use dvb-s pci cards and TBS USB receivers.
With those, and software. Signal analysis becomes sort of easy. Or tapping into your coax with a dc pass splitter, decoupling capacitor, and using a spectrum analyzer. Tuning across the LO band. Finding signal spikes. Digging deep.

Still making my decision on a (most probably) TBS PCIe tuner card. But I have tapped into my coax with my ancient but quite impressive HP spectrum analyzer and tinysa.
I don't have 5G interference so far that I know of. But have my suspects because I'm only able to snag signal from 131W in the winter when the leaves drop. But out of curiosity do scan it in the fall. And seem to be getting a signal that 'shouldn't' be there and a scan shows no channels. Far as I got.

An idea pops up to rig up an LNBF on a stick. Along with the tinysa and power supply and do some rogue signal searches. War Driving, of sorts. But. I wouldn't think that a chinabox, firmware based receiver would be of much help.
From what I see scanning across the frequency band. 5G cell transmission is always on and is very wide spectrum.
Whether anyone is actually using talking, texting, watching stupid human tricks on YouTube Makes no difference. The RF is there. So why would a C Band setup come and go? And what if you dumped the corotor and went modern voltage controlled polarity?

Another thought. Since you've learned the optimal position to place the scalar to illuminate out to the dish rim. And peaked the feed. There's most of a roll of aluminum flashing out in my garage that would most definitely wrap around my dish perimeter. That and a bag of large binder clips from the office supply. wally world. Ideas?

I did some more investigating and found I got the MeTV mux in the early hours, until about 6am then the pixelating starts. Gets worse until around 8am its totally gone. I suspect my local cell tower is ramping up traffic as the morning goes on. My Titanium feed does a super job and most everything is clear that wasn't before but this mux is aggravating! I seem to just be over the signal threshold to work until the 5G total overwhelms my system. I'm using an old 9 foot spun aluminum dish and was wondering if I went to a 12 ft dish this would solve the problem? I know bigger is better in most satellite dish related signal problems. If this is true I will be searching for a bigger dish. I like your idea of flashing put around the dish perimeter. I have some I need to dig out and try before I start ripping out my dish. Anybody have any ideas if the bigger dish would do better? Any help would be appreciated!

SDA_FL_USA

28 minutes ago

brownsfan1 said:
I did some more investigating and found I got the MeTV mux in the early hours, until about 6am then the pixelating starts. Gets worse until around 8am its totally gone. I suspect my local cell tower is ramping up traffic as the morning goes on. My Titanium feed does a super job and most everything is clear that wasn't before but this mux is aggravating! I seem to just be over the signal threshold to work until the 5G total overwhelms my system. I'm using an old 9 foot spun aluminum dish and was wondering if I went to a 12 ft dish this would solve the problem? I know bigger is better in most satellite dish related signal problems. If this is true I will be searching for a bigger dish. I like your idea of flashing put around the dish perimeter. I have some I need to dig out and try before I start ripping out my dish. Anybody have any ideas if the bigger dish would do better? Any help would be appreciated!

8 1/2 Foot mesh here with the c140 lnbf and a verizon 5g tower nearby. Got no issue with the Metv transponder. Are you sure you have the lnbf setup correct? When I set my c140 up I noticed it was about 1/4 to 1/2 inch pushed in closer to the dish, sticking out of the scaler ring than my old lnbf was. Thought I may have trouble with that but my signal readings are higher than they had ever been.

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Former member 209992

Last reply 56 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Yesterday at 11:18 AM

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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harshness

Yesterday at 3:13 PM

More specifically, these:

https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2026-109618

https://www.cve.org/CVERecord?id=CVE-2026-109619

A more scholarly story is here:

PHP warns admins of two critical flaws, emergency patches coming tomorrow

The PHP security team is warning administrators to prepare for emergency security updates tomorrow to address two critical vulnerabilities, as information about the flaws has reportedly leaked ahead of their scheduled disclosure.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

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navychop

Yesterday at 3:43 PM

"WARNING Will Robinson!"

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Don in CT

Today at 10:19 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it.

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 4:54 PM

Don in CT said:
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it.

12 minutes after the patch was release I had it patched.

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Foxbat

56 minutes ago

A.I. - Be careful what you wish for…

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Lon.TV

Today at 6:52 PM · posted in Lon.TV

Lithium UPS Battery Backup Review - Oupes UPS 1200 Review

Time for another AWESOME video from Lon Seidman of LON.TV!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwivKnNZrw

Direct YouTube Link - Lithium UPS Battery Backup Review - Oupes UPS 1200 Review
The Official LON.TV Website
Lon on Facebook

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niembre

Last reply Today at 6:24 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

OTA no working after Update

My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?

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Briant73

Yesterday at 9:19 PM

Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 9:48 PM

Briant73 said:
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.

No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...ftware-version-713-is-out.423921/post-5108817

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 9:57 PM

Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.

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navychop

Yesterday at 11:21 PM

In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

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brittanygarden

Today at 6:24 PM

Hi all. If you were using a single tuner USB OTA adapter that is no longer working, please PM me. Thanks.

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dfergie

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Last reply Today at 6:14 PM · posted in TV Shows

Survivor 51

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dfergie

Oct 1, 2026

Loose lips sink ships for her...

teachsac

Oct 3, 2026

Dang. That had to hurt. I would have not handled it that well. Surprised it wasn't brought up by Heff at the challenge.

dfergie

Oct 8, 2026

First rule - if you get a clue follow it immediately, 2nd - keep your stuff with you in a strange place, 3rd - pay attention to your ride... (pre first - don't go if you think you might not want to stay Rob)

dfergie

Oct 9, 2026

Still miss "On Fire" podcasts, found these...

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teachsac

Today at 6:14 PM

Loved the tribal

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