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Help.

since my update to L670 my SD channels randomly are stretched to full screen, i press aspect button and the aspect desciption changes,but the screen stays stretched, i can switch to another sd channel and sometimes it will go back to regular gray bar screen, other time it wont,when it does i then go back to the channel i want and it still is stretched, my HD channels are all fine.

if i go into hd setup and select 480i and then reset to 1080i it will fix the stretch channels for that session, but next time i watch tv my SD are stretched again.

i wish the 2 or 3 channels i am watching in SD were Hd (disney,local CW,local news) but since they are SD this is driving me crazy,its like the old TBS stretch o vision.

anyone lese with this issue?
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still stretching SD on one tuner

I finally got the beginnings of an answer from a loyalty rep--this stretching is only on the TV2 tuner, but since I'm using Single mode, I couldn't tell which tuner I was watching. No stretching if I tune to an SD station when I swap tuners. The hard reboot didn't solve it for me, so I'm looking for any other suggestions anyone can give please.
KKlare
TV1 and TV2 tuners are identical and like the OTA and are HD or SD depending on the channel.
The outputs labeled 1 and 2 are HD/SD and SD-only, respectively.
The */format key changes the output shape, differently for the two outputs, not changing the inputs.
Which output and which remote are you using? Press * while watching and check the formats.
It should remember the selected format, separately for SD and HD programs on each output.
-Ken
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I'm having the exact same problem with my 722 ever since L670 was installed around 30 Sep or 01 Oct. The SD picture on Tuner 2 is stretched permanently. I operate my 722 in the Single Mode so that I get both tuners on one single TV. In Dual Mode, Tuner 2 can be sent to a second TV which would operate in SD only. I called Dish and reported the stretched picture to them well over a month ago and they authorized a brand new 722 for me. They agreed that Tuner 2 should not be stretched on SD even though Tuner 2 is an SD tuner only when used in the Dual Mode for a second TV. After I hooked up and formatted the new 722, I called Dish to authorize the new 722 and de-authorize the old 722. They authorized my new 722 and both tuners worked properly for about four hours. The SD picture on Tuner 2 was not stretched and responded from the 4:3 Normal Mode to the Stretch Mode to the Zoom Mode and back to the 4:3 Normal Mode just like it was supposed to. Unfortunately, that didn't last. Four hours after the authorization of my new 722, the SD on Tuner 2 froze in the Stretch Mode just as my original 722 did. BTW, the main tuner, Tuner 1, always operates normally without any stretch on SD.

I immediately suspected that the latest software version L670 was the culprit. L670 was on my original 722 and was now it was on the new 722. After I called Dish again, a new rep agreed that L670 might be the problem and that I should wait for L671 to be downloaded within the week and to see if that doesn't cure the problem. Well, L671 didn't cure the problem and I was pissed. I called Dish back again and still another different rep this time tried to tell me that my TV was to blame and not the 722. He said he had no idea what was going on but regardless it wasn't the fault of the 722. I decided to wait one additional week and I called Dish one more time for an update. This rep, yet still another one, listened to my problem closely and after several tests agreed that my TV was fine and that it was definitely the 722 acting up. He asked me to wait another day until he went home and personally checked both his 722 and 722K. The next day, the same rep called me back and told me that sure enough that his 722 was doing exactly the same thing as mine was doing and also that his 722K was acting normal and was not affected by L670. I felt finally vindicated. We both agreed that the culprit was faulty software and in this case it was L670 that was the culprit. He told me that he would turn in a technical report to the Engineering people and that was about a week ago. I haven't heard anything since.

I don't know how much longer I'm going to be patient with Dish. Their customer service with very few exceptions sucks. I am not going to keep paying them my hard earned dollars for an inferior product. Either they get this problem straightened out or I am gone. I've been with Dish almost 10 years and I like their product. But, I don't like being made to feel like a fool when I report a legit problem and I don't appreciate being ignored while they take their own sweet time fixing this problem that is if they are even fixing it.
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I had to replace my receiver that was affected by this stretch for an unrelated issue. When it went through setup, it skipped straight to L671. Don't want to jinx myself, but this 722 is working much better. I think that having it skip straight over L670 made all the difference. I worked with several very patient CSRs/Techs while ordering this replacement and doing my own swap-out, and when they saw that I'd had a few issue calls involving L670, one CSR offered to extend the Starz package (I'd gotten 3 months free during the Fox issues) out to a year for free :)

So hats off to the Loyalty department -- they understood that I knew how to do my own troubleshooting and didn't make me do it again, and then offered to reward me for having to have done it. I hope this stretch issue clears up for everyone soon!
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I have the solution...

It is NOT bad software or a bad receiver...

Symptoms - (ONLY one tuner affected in Single mode) Picture is in stretch mode regardless of FORMAT setting. When in PIP (side-by-side) one tuner video is always stretched to fill entire half screen.

I had my 722 replaced last week after a hard drive failure, and experienced the same stretched picture issue, on one tuner only, on the new receiver. I immediately suspected the new receiver, of course. I called Dish tech support last night and spoke to two different techs. The first insisted there was something wrong with my Sony TV! Absurd!! I demanded to talk to his supervisor. The second tech kept asking about my "second TV." I couldn't seem to get it into his head that I only had one TV and ran in single mode. He admitted that he ran his 722 with two TVs and was not familiar with the single TV setup. After arguing with Dish for 20 minutes I finally got a new receiver authorized.

This morning I woke up with an epiphany. I pulled up the System Setup (6) menu and selected Shared View (2). Shared View for Single Mode Only was Disabled. I changed this to Enabled, and voilà, problem resolved.

I called Dish tech support back immediately and asked to cancel the replacement reciever (can't do it - need to reject delivery) and then asked why two technicians did not know about this setting. She did some research and found nothing related to this problem. I had her document this as a known issue, so maybe (in six months) it will be in every techs notes.

Please let me know if this fixes the issue for anybody else. I would hate to find out that it only works for me.

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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Waiting On A Sunny DAY-Bruce Springsteen
ewindowman
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Bruce
tanman
For your viewing pleasure...
comfortably_numb
For your viewing pleasure...

That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
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That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:
comfortably_numb
That's ALL Verizon needs.....more congested towers :mad:

They don't care... they're milkin' the cow. Buddying up with Elon to provide him an MVNO network will make their investors and shareholders salivate. All of their recent marketing efforts have failed, so this move makes a lot of sense.
fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
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That's ok, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to take them.
Yep, they could stick it in with thier other dozen or so MVNO's, including the five they own.
b4pjoe
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harshness
Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
dishstaller
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
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navychop
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
osu1991
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?
Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.
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Juan
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm
The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
HipKat
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
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The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue
Had a customer come in a couple weeks ago to pay her internet bill. She let me know in no uncertain terms that she did NOT appreciate me running the same ads over and over. I looked at her and waited for her to laugh and say she was just joking.......still waiting for that laugh.
osu1991
Shouldn't this thread be in the IPTV forum?
There is one there too. I would think either is justifiable as they make both the device and provide a streaming program service.

Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
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Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
rvvaquero
Parity is growing in College Football. Making it even harder to tell who is better than each other.
I agree to a point. The transfer policy is creating parity, but only for the top 20-25 teams. The other 110+ teams in the FBS are just breeding grounds for the bigger schools which have more money and more recruiting appeal.

If a smaller school recruits, trains, and matures a quality player, they can't keep them past their sophomore year because the bigger schools snatch them up. Example: LSU didn't cultivate Sam Leavitt, they just harvested him from other schools. LSU is a top contender, in large part because of Leavitt. Michigan State and Arizona State.................are not. If either of those schools had been able to retain his services, who knows where they would be now.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Coach says afternoon game result of SEC "conspiracy". The rivalry game vs. Ala. will kick off in the afternoon at Baton Rouge rather than at night, which head coach Lane Kiffin says is intentional in order to neutralize fan craziness and noise, which is believed to help lead to wins for squads playing at home. "Obviously the SEC wanted to change this year from how it had been to give LSU less advantage, (considering) how well LSU plays at night and how intimidating it is to play here. So I guess when I look at it that way, I'm not surprised."

But he's come up with an ingenious solution. "Go to bed earlier Fri. night, then start your day earlier. Have breakfast earlier. Start drinking earlier. Whatever your routine is, just move it up."

Meantime ads have been running for a "Protect College Sports Act" moving through Congress.
Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
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Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
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similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.
"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.
TRG
TRG
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.
I have gigabit fiber in an underground box on my property. But it's not lit up yet so I'm stuck with copper too. For now anyway.
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After a strange reboot last night in the middle of viewing, this morning several more reboots and about a half an hour download.
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Almighty1
Just did the update check manually about an hour ago with Hopper 3 on H713 and Hopper Plus on P15403.
Noticed something new when I clicked on the Update Software, it presented a pop-up as follows:
"Update software 1573
Update later Update now Cancel" with those three buttons which did not exist before.

After updating the H715 - I guess there must be major bugs as both H709 and H714 were skipped.

So here are the issue(s):

Issue #1
It did fix the problem with H713 which was:
"One of the problems I am seeing is that the Available Joey Software section no longer is showing the Android TV versions even after a manual software reset twice and the nightly reboot. Until it does, nether Technician Android TV download and Hopper Plus is able to check, download and update the Android TV software."

This was a major problem with H703.

H710 removed that dependency so H711 and H712 were working without that dependency but H713 brought it back which is fixed in H715 as no P versions or Android TV versions are shown in the Available Joey Software on the main Diagnostics screen.
However, with that said, the TECHNICIAN SETTINGS, Download ATV (Android TV) Files is not working correctly as the Download ATV Files shows:
"Download ATV Files 3000
Download in progress. This operation will be
complete when the files are downloaded

Joey 4 : P554- Failed
Joey 4 : P55403- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P654- Failed
Wireless Joey 4 : P65403- Complete
HopperPlus : P154- Complete
HopperPlus : P15403- Failed

OK"
From what I can tell, each of them goes through the Downloading followed by the Processing stages first before it goes into the Failed or Complete stage. It seemed to be going in a loop earlier as it will start downloading from the first item being the Joey 4 each time before it eventually stopped. This is the first time ever since 2023 that I had ever seen it Failed.

With that said, the dependency appears to still be required for the Hopper Plus to check, download and update the Android TV software as it says Failed, No Target when going to "Device Preferences", About, "Software Update"

Issue #2
Still cannot cast to Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus(Software P15317) with the Hopper Plus "Google Chromecast Built-In" feature" as it shows up as a casting device when the Hopper Plus is online and disappears when the Hopper 3 and Hopper Plus does it's nightly reboots but times out when one tries to cast to it and always shows up as Not available in the Google Home app on Android phone. No one else anywhere on the internet had confirmed whether it is working for them or not. Per brittanygarden in DM on October 16, 2026:
"We've been working with Google on this. We have a fix on the Google side projected for Q4. I know we're in Q4 now, but I will try to get a narrowed down timeline for you."

brittanygarden and Rick Durham

jsmit86 and naptime - If you are able to use H715, does the issue mentioned below still exist?
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