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Last reply · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support
How To North Americanize Your AZBOX.

I used 3 programs to do the task.

1) Maz3 was used to FTP the "all_channel.dat" file from the azbox to the pc.
2) AZbox Edit was used to do the actual editing even though it was fluky in windows 7 but it did work well enough.
3) Azbox control center ver 1.1
(In a Google search I somehow obtained an AZ Toolbox by Xonic Team which has all the above programs loaded into one)

Using Maz3
Setup your Profile: Name = Azbox
IP: = 198.168.x.xxx (fill in the address to match your Azbox IP Address.)
*IP set here to make it easier for most people*
FTP Port = 21
Telnet Port = 23
Login = root
Password = azbox
(login & password are case sensitive; all lower case)
Under Options
Style = Office 2003 Classic * again set for your preference*
Language = English (or whatever you can read)

Now press the "Connect" button above the profile section.
Then click on "Channel List" over on the left side & then hit the Green down arrow button which is located above the word "Name".
Your channel list from the azbox should now appear on the left side in the large box.
Directly to the left of the green down arrow is your "SAVE" button.

This is what you need to do to the channel list save it to your computer where you know it is. There will be 3 files saved.
all_channel.dat
antenna_list.dat
DVBS.dat

Once this is saved to your pc, you are ready to move on to the next step.

Now open AZ Edit (your going to edit the sat list and delete the unwanted tp's)
Once azedit is open go to the "File" button and click on "OPEN"

Now find the all_channel.dat file where you just saved it on your hard drive

Highlight it so it appears on the lower part of the box and then hit "open".
Then click on "Organize Sat & TP"

Do not worry if you get a box popping up saying "subscript out of range"

If you have to click on ok to make it go away then do so.

The satellite list is now on the screen in the middle box.
Go all the way to the top using the side bar in the program and highlight the very top one which should be an Eastern Sat. You can tell by looking to the left side of the screen next to the satellite name is the Degree. You do not want any that say "E".

Now move your mouse over to the delete button under the satellite list and keep deleting. When you get to 169°E, STOP ::
now save the file under the "File" menu.

Sometimes this program is very tricky and temperamental and crashed on me every time I reached this point. To get around it what I did was exactly what I wrote here, then re-open the file and now instead of deleting the very top satellite go to the 2nd on the list and delete it first, then delete the top satellite name.
*Your Mileage May Vary Using AZEDIT *

Once you have the list down to what you want remember to save the file on your pc.
You may also use Maz 3 to edit your satellite list but for beginners like me, this is how I made it happen.

So now you have the file saved on your pc with no Eastern Sat's and you can also delete any TP's on each sat you still have left but just for caution leave 1 TP on each satellite you have in your list. Why? Well we have found that deleting every TP causes the receiver to go wacky and revert to the old files. Leaving one TP under each satellite satisfied the receiver and it has always remained stable doing it this way

Now open the program: ACC (Azbox Control Center) version 1.1
Go to "Connection" (top right) click on it and set up your connection again using the same info you did for Maz3 near the top of this note.
Add the profile or a new profile here so it will always be there for the future.
There is also a Language setting here under Connections so set it up the first time around here.

Now…. Open the Tools-2 button


Everything should be setup on this page so DO NOT UNCHECK ANYTHING HERE!


Now Stop for a second and make sure you have the azbox turned on and connected to your internet. Do not proceed until you have done this!
After you have verified your azbox is connected; now on your pc:
Look on the left side for a button called: send to AZBox and click on it.
The new channel maps are now being sent to your azbox and the azbox will reboot on it's own, do not touch it yet.

After the azbox has rebooted go into your settings using your remote find…
TV Channel:: Tuner A.DVB-S:: Antenna Setup.
Now setup your LNB Frequency and DiSEqC settings if you have it set up.

When your done you can FTP them back to your pc and your settings will be backed up now just in case.

I found that after I reset the Frequency settings on just a couple of satellites that were not set proper before then after the edit I started over by downloading it to my pc and once I was satisfied all the new changes were there I used the ACC program and re-sent it to the azbox. Now my settings are set in both the backup files along with the ones in use. If the box wants to revert back now it is from this starting point.

The trick of all this is the Azbox control center program.
Not only will it write the file to the Azbox and reboot, but it also
uploads all 3 files in disk 2 and additionally rewrites in disk1 \ disk2 backup file dvbs.dat which the other channel editors do not do.
The back up file is what causes all the problems with the satellite list changing back to the factory default on azbox users. Now your backup file is set for North America and if you have done everything above, you also deleted all those TP's that are no good and now your blind scan should improve time-wise.
I am now doing a blind-scan on some satellites in under 7 minutes.
(I did delete all but 1 of the transponders on each satellite)

Once you get re-setup and you have a channel list that is a good starting point for you, it is recommended you ftp it to your pc after all the settings have been made for your set-up. If anything happens in the future you now have a solid starting point and only have to use the Azbox control center program to upload your satellite and channel list.

This has been tried on firmware version 0.9.4890 & 0.9.5020 and on the Az-Ultra & the Az-Premium Plus receivers.

After playing around with the azboxes, using the above directions, I then used the AZEdit program and re-named the channels I had in the azbox, Now instead of showing a frequency I have the actual name. Once again downloaded it to my pc using Maz3 and after editing uploading it using the ACC program.

The only potential pitfall I can foresee is what will happen if you install a new firmware version to the azbox. I don't know yet. Maybe you will have all those Eastern Sats back in if it is installed along with new firmware updates, but if you have a folder on your pc with the last change you made using this procedure all you have to do then is to open ACC and upload the all_channel.dat file and your good to go once more.

If you deleted all the Eastern Satellites you now have a North American Unit. How sweet is that!
Those in Europe can do it in reverse.
I've purposely tried fouling up the box to make it re-boot on it's own, tested power failures, frequent turn ons and offs and the azbox has remained stable.
So much so, that I have written it all down for others to give it a whirl!

I have personally used this now for 4 days and one of those days the azbox was on and being used aggressively for 24 hours straight. Any glitch where the box hung up on me was fixed by doing a re-boot and no information changed in the box nor was any information lost.
The files mentioned here, channel and satellite files can be interchanged between the Ultra & the Premium Plus receivers, even those with the two firmware versions listed above. ( those were the boxes and firmware versions it was tested on by myself).

This is really quite a simple process. I have never used any of the programs listed here before I did this so I was completely in the blind.
Thanks to everyone here who took the time to answer questions I was putting out there whenever I got stumped at one time or another.
I am not a computer programmer and I tried to put it all down here in a simple language for everyone to understand since I know there are many who have been trying to do just this process who do not know the computer jargon.
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WhiteBeard
Radar: It looks like I did everything like you. It was subsequent changes/refinements where my problems began. This stuff is just too unstable to be trustworthy. I'll bet we'll continue to have difficulties with Enigma when it comes into general use. They need to release the source code to everyone so we'd get more corrections done faster. IMHO. It would be nice if they got the high bit rate recording problem and Diseqc issues fixed/improved also.
stargaze
It looks like I did everything like you. It was subsequent changes/refinements where my problems began. This stuff is just too unstable to be trustworthy. I'll bet we'll continue to have difficulties with Enigma when it comes into general use. They need to release the source code to everyone so we'd get more corrections done faster. IMHO. It would be nice if they got the high bit rate recording problem and Diseqc issues fixed/improved also.

Johnny, when you stop fighting the receiver and work within the means we have you may have some surprising results.
Sure we all wish for better things but at this moment this is what we have and instead of fighting it just try working with it.
Not everyone has the same results with the different editor programs. Radar likes one better than I do, it does not make us hate things; we end up with the results we want even though the programs we use are different but they work for us on our equipment.
If one program shows the correct items you need for your system then go with that program. This process is meant to get your system up and running so you can sit back and enjoy FTA TV.

I also suggest to try thinking ahead when making changes to the satellite/channel lists. Add a couple dummy's in so in the future you will not have to go in and edit things.
I also realize you are using some controls that I am not using here but once set up properly you should not have to go in making constant changes.

Now, with some new experimental firmware upgrade on the horizon, Unless you are into being a beta tester, sit back and wait till those testing it out work out the bugs.

The first time I posted how to North Americanize the Azbox people complained it was too long of a process. I could not ever find a shortcut that would work and remain working other than what I had done. The receivers I tried taking a shortcut on would seem to end up having problems within a few days time, the receivers I had that used the long drawn out process have never had a problem since day 1.

I have even gone as far as zipping up some files for people who had their system set up exactly like mine, and they are sitting back watching TV without the hassles many people face simply by installing them using specific programs.
I stated many times that I am not a computer wiz by any means but I am willing to learn which is what makes all the difference. Not saying you don't want to learn, but it seems like you have some specific problems and I wonder if they are because you have not completed something along the way using the proper process.
I have found that even after all this time, I find myself missing one minor step or overlooking it and then I end up beginning all over from scratch just to make sure nothing corrupt goes back to the receiver.
WhiteBeard
Johnny, when you stop fighting the receiver and work within the means we have you may have some surprising results.
Sure we all wish for better things but at this moment this is what we have and instead of fighting it just try working with it.
Not everyone has the same results with the different editor programs. Radar likes one better than I do, it does not make us hate things; we end up with the results we want even though the programs we use are different but they work for us on our equipment.
If one program shows the correct items you need for your system then go with that program. This process is meant to get your system up and running so you can sit back and enjoy FTA TV.

I also suggest to try thinking ahead when making changes to the satellite/channel lists. Add a couple dummy's in so in the future you will not have to go in and edit things.
I also realize you are using some controls that I am not using here but once set up properly you should not have to go in making constant changes.

Now, with some new experimental firmware upgrade on the horizon, Unless you are into being a beta tester, sit back and wait till those testing it out work out the bugs.

The first time I posted how to North Americanize the Azbox people complained it was too long of a process. I could not ever find a shortcut that would work and remain working other than what I had done. The receivers I tried taking a shortcut on would seem to end up having problems within a few days time, the receivers I had that used the long drawn out process have never had a problem since day 1.

I have even gone as far as zipping up some files for people who had their system set up exactly like mine, and they are sitting back watching TV without the hassles many people face simply by installing them using specific programs.
I stated many times that I am not a computer wiz by any means but I am willing to learn which is what makes all the difference. Not saying you don't want to learn, but it seems like you have some specific problems and I wonder if they are because you have not completed something along the way using the proper process.
I have found that even after all this time, I find myself missing one minor step or overlooking it and then I end up beginning all over from scratch just to make sure nothing corrupt goes back to the receiver.

OK OK. I'll quit asking anyone any questions or reporting problems. Goodbye!!
AcWxRadar
OK OK. I'll quit asking anyone any questions or reporting problems. Goodbye!!

JohnnyN,

Please don't misunderstand the information that StarGaze was trying to relay to you. He isn't chastising you for anything you did or did not do here in this process. He is just trying to reiterate that this is a very quirky adventure and every "t" must be crossed and every "i" must be dotted all the way along. I have my system and my AZBox functioning perfectly now by simply trying different avenues over and over again. The instructions and the results may differ for each individual as there are some incompatibility issues with the support programs that we are installing and with our specific OS versions (XP, Vista, 7, etc).

My fear is that the author/s of the support programs created them with one specific operating system and did not fully realize the implications of running their software with another OS. I don't intend to state that I know this as a fact, it is just a speculation. But, it is probably a legitimate suspicion if nothing else. For instance, you can open a DOS application with all Windows OS, but that is nothing more than a simulated DOS operating system, it is NOT a true or the original DOS. Therefore, some corners have been cut and some instructions may not be fully applied or implemented.

Do notice that there are no ACC or AZBoxEdit or MazEdit programs that are dedicated to Windows XP versus one that is dedicated for Windows Vista or 7 or one for a Mac? You can bet that there are glitches here due to that fact. The support programs are relying upon the resident OS in your PC to work properly. If the author or compiler created these files with a Windows XP system in mind, they should work just great. Apply the same program on a Windows 7 system, and some library or DLL or OSX file might be missing or different.

I myself, not being a computer geek, would not know when to expect these deficiencies or how to deal with them right away.

If any of what I explain here makes any sense to you, then you will understand why these glitches exist. These deficiencies are hard to detect and identify, unless the program you are trying to run absolutely comes out and informs you that it couldn't find a specific file. If you see that, then you should write down the file name and you can go off to Google and locate it and install it on your PC.

Beyond this, I hope that you understand that none of us have found all this to be perfect from the start, either. We waded through all the glitches to just get one step beyond and then found another glitch to deal with. You will have to come to the realization that this is a major learning enterprise and an intense hobby for those who wish to be challenged.

You will be able to figure this out, your problem is not a huge one and you will find the answers, too. Please take notes as you go, for others - if you will.

RADAR
tonydix
Thanks to all for their helpfull comments. I have succeeded in editing my channel list .
The key for me seems to be :-
Download with Filezilla
Edit with AZBox edit
Send the edited files back to the box with AZBox ControlCentre.
Use the box remote to edit you satellite freq and Disq settings.

This last step is a nuisance for me since I have about 10 different satellites scanned into the box.
Is there a better alternative to this last step ?
Thanks
Tony
AcWxRadar
Thanks to all for their helpfull comments. I have succeeded in editing my channel list .
The key for me seems to be :-
Download with Filezilla
Edit with AZBox edit
Send the edited files back to the box with AZBox ControlCentre.
Use the box remote to edit you satellite freq and Disq settings.

This last step is a nuisance for me since I have about 10 different satellites scanned into the box.
Is there a better alternative to this last step ?
Thanks
Tony

Tony,

You can edit many of the parameters while in the AZBoxEdit program. This takes a little experimentation to understand how, but it is not too difficult.

What you cannot do is set the DiSEqC 1.2 motor positions ahead of time. You can prescribe each satellite as DiSEqC position #1, #2, #3, etc, but you still have to drive your motor to find the satellite and then store the position. This is because DiSEqC 1.2 positions are stored in the motor, and not in the receiver. This still must be accomplished manually.

USALS works fine from the editor as this uses the satellite orbital position and your site's lat/long to calculate the command to send to the motor.

RADAR
putney
I vote that this post be a sticky!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
T
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Nominal
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take
Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
long_time_Dish
Little Bit Of Light - Strange Weather
EatMyVolts
A Little Bit of Soap -- The Jarmels
Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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TRG
TRG
Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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dfergie
The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)
R
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
Bobby
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
Bobby
NASCAR, Freeway Insurance 500, Sunday 10-18, 12PM PDT, Channel 148-04.
Bobby
CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
CFB, Ole Miss at Texas, Saturday 10-24, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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Ramy
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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
K
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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MikeD-C05
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
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MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
MikeD-C05
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
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osu1991
I don't know, but I still don't like her walking through the station or the academy with out her shoes. It looks unprofessional and very "hippy like" for someone of her status and I personally don't get off to feet, so there is that. ;)
Stay out of my office. I rarely have shoes or socks on in the office. My office and business is at home though :clapping
K
I just thought her behavior, including the bare feet thing, was disrespectful to her position.
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