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Finally succeeded in Moving 3 Sat files from Disk 2 on AZbox to my Computer re Radar's great detailed advice for backup purposes. Yesterday I discovered that the Default 125 Sat European List does NOT even include AMC-21 / 125.0W, so incorporating a new Modified North American List is a MUST. I have FileZilla up and working & I would very much appreciate assistance on 2 Areas:

1) Do the 2 new Sat files - in my case for 46 Satellites get moved onto Disk 2 of the AZbox? What is the detailed procedure for running the Transfer from Destop to AZbox? That is how do you Transfer from LOCAL SITE on my PC over to DISK2 Folder on AZbox?

2) How do you INCORPORATE the new 46 Sat List to make it work? I have read you have to MANUALLY DELETE ALL but ONE Satellite on the old 125 Satellite European List and then Start moving or installing Sats from the new List which in my case would be 97.0W as the first new Sat. Then reboot and delete the last old European Sat, and start installing all the rest of the Sats off the new list?

What is very difficult to understand is how the heck you can have 2 Satellite LISTS on Disk 2 running at the Same time and how do you delete Sats off the European list while having the new 46 Satellite List there as well!! How do you access or sort out the 2 Sat Lists? This is very difficult to understand for us not totally computer savy people, so any help would be much appreciated.
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Thanks for your reply Stargaze. Where do us AZbox beginners get all this new info on those 3 New Programs we now need: ie Maz3, AZBox EDIT, and AZBox CONTROL Center Ver 1.1 and how do they get installed?

Also is ALL the Help Info & Stickies previously incorporating FileZilla now Out Of Date & NOT the way to go? All this new Info seems to be quite a step up on the Learning Curve & a lot of us are not computer programmers - just beginners.

I was hoping to get help in this Forum by continuing to use FileZilla (that I just Downloaded last week), to update & Americanize my Sat Files using the method outlined in my 2nd post here that was previously posted by Radar. Thanks for your time.
AcWxRadar
Jsattv,

FileZIlla and MaZEdit 3.0 are still viable programs, and they are both still important at this time. Continue using them, but keep in mind that there are advancing steps that are going to improve and help us here. While you seek out these other new programs and dabble with them, you may continue to use what you have learned thus far and be just fine. But down the road a piece, you will want to start increasing your exposure to these other programs. It's a fast paced rate of change, for sure. You'll do fine as one step builds on the other, so it is not a huge untertaking all at once and most of the programs are just the same thing with a couple of new twists. That is just how this hobby goes, so get acquainted with it now.

The story behind this all is that the AZBox editors and AZBox control center programs have now been upgraded/revisioned and many of the original "bugs" have been worked out. These programs are now fairly reliable and mostly glitch free. This is a great step in the positive direction for us AZBox owners.

The next point, which is extremely valuable to us, is that the ACC (or AZBox Control Center) program does something automatically that would have required us to perform manually through a myriad of steps using TelNet codes to access the backup files in a normally "read-only" location within the AZBox.

This step would require you to send specific LINUX commands using the TelNet service of MaZEdit. First, you have to make the read-only area where the back up files are stored "writable", then send your files to it, then make it read-only once again. The ACC program does this automatically for us now.

Simply backing up those three files with MaZEdit was the simplest measure to secure your channel and satellite list before, but it didn't alter the resident backup files within the AZBox, so that is why the European and Asian sat lists would keep popping back in if you did any format and restore procedures.

Now, we can rewrite the channel list and sat list to our liking and always ensure that it remains there (for the most part anyhow - there are still some issues with satellites playing musical chairs, but the foreign sat list won't pop back in on us).

It still isn't totally perfect as no one of these programs (AZBoxEdit, ACC or MaZEdit) can do everything on its own. Each program has its own forte.

The AZBoxEdit 2880 program is very good for actually editing/deleting/adding satellites, transponders and channels to your list, but it doesn't do so well in the transfer department.

The MaZEdit program is simple to utilize and you can transfer files fairly easily with it, but it is lame as an an editor.

The ACC program has the perk of being able to rewrite the backup files resident in the AZBox automatically when you send the files over, whereas the other two programs can't touch this area without doing it in a lengthy process that is a bit confusing to most.

Now, I understand the apprehension regarding learning a new program, but trust me, if you feel fairly confident with MaZEdit, you will pick these other programs up with a breeze. They are simple and straightforward and not much different than MaZEdit.

There is a purpose to our madness here. :) I think that eventually we will be able to accomplish everything we desire with ONE program. But, currently, we don't have that luxury. For the most part, each program is being developed separately in order to specialize on one task or area and do it well. I am hopeful that when these programmers get their individual projects perfected, they will merge them somehow into one program.

The author of the AZBoxEdit and the ACC is "TELESAT". I am not certain that this an individual, a group of programmers or a company, but watch for good things from this source in the future.

I hope that this helps clarify some of the details about the multiple programs for you and makes it less confusing as to why we are using multiple programs.

Heck, even the Coolsat 5000 required more than one program to edit the channel lists, and that was a very simplistic box compared to the AZBox. Fortunately, all the programs we require are FREEWARE.

I would truly LOVE to see SharpC come out with a version of ChannelMaster that would handle the AZBox files. Now THAT would be GREAT!

RADAR
stargaze
Thanks for your reply Stargaze. Where do us AZbox beginners get all this new info on those 3 New Programs we now need: ie Maz3, AZBox EDIT, and AZBox CONTROL Center Ver 1.1 and how do they get installed?

Also is ALL the Help Info & Stickies previously incorporating FileZilla now Out Of Date & NOT the way to go? All this new Info seems to be quite a step up on the Learning Curve & a lot of us are not computer programmers - just beginners.

I was hoping to get help in this Forum by continuing to use FileZilla (that I just Downloaded last week), to update & Americanize my Sat Files using the method outlined in my 2nd post here that was previously posted by Radar. Thanks for your time.

As I said: you will only need to download one zipped program called "Toolbox Azbox HD 1.2" or now it may be version 2.3.
Everything you need is in there.
I do not consider myself to be an experienced az-user yet. I did all of what I wrote within the first 3 weeks of having my azbox. I have 3 azboxes to play with so I was able to try things that most could not do. I wanted a box that suited my needs and the only way was to experiment, which I did. I was just the bull in the china closet who ran through and kept track of everything all along the way.

Radar was one of the first that I knew who had a vast amount of knowledge and was willing to share it. Now much of what he went through and wrote down has changed drastically since this toolbox came out with the ACC program in it.
Heck, the user manual for the azbox I was compliling is now already being re-written as much of it is now out the window since this program takes much of the computer jargon away from us since it does what we need without even knowing it.

Neither one of us, Radar nor myself, were afraid to experiment and if it did not work we kept a note of it to hopefully pass along to others.

Our posts may be lengthy but it best describes how things get done in detail.

As for how you learn a new program just take your time at first. Most is already posted under a couple threads I started , copy and paste it to your notebook and print it out if you need to. It truly is not all that difficult to understand it.
I'll know when your learning when you post the mistakes you make along the way.. :)
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Radar & Stargaze, I very much appreciate your time & detailed responses. I have a couple of questions:

I already have AzboxEdit thanks to B.J.'s great help, are Maz3 and ACC & Toolbox Azbox HD 1.2 available from Google Search, and do they have to be unzipped ie with winrar in order to use them?

When my new 46 North American Satellite List is ready to be uploaded to Disk1 / Disk2 in Azbox using those 3 Programs mentioned by Stargaze, does it automatically replace or override the 125 European / Western List, or do I still have to go in and Manually Delete that European list?

In light of all the problems mentioned in this Forum with Maz 3 being unstable and changing languages etc., would it not make more sense to use FileZilla if possible for some of these operations, or does Maz 3 have much more capability for these procedures??
stargaze
Radar & Stargaze, I very much appreciate your time & detailed responses. I have a couple of questions:

I already have AzboxEdit thanks to B.J.'s great help, are Maz3 and ACC & Toolbox Azbox HD 1.2 available from Google Search, and do they have to be unzipped ie with winrar in order to use them?

When my new 46 North American Satellite List is ready to be uploaded to Disk1 / Disk2 in Azbox using those 3 Programs mentioned by Stargaze, does it automatically replace or override the 125 European / Western List, or do I still have to go in and Manually Delete that European list?

In light of all the problems mentioned in this Forum with Maz 3 being unstable and changing languages etc., would it not make more sense to use FileZilla if possible for some of these operations, or does Maz 3 have much more capability for these procedures??

1)Toolbox Azbox HD 1.2 is available for download by a google search.
2) Toolbox as I like to call it has ALL the programs you need built in it so you do not need to try finding any others out there.
3) Not everyone has a problem with Maz. (I have in on Windows 7 and windows XP with no problems others have found)
** #3** some who use Vista are experiencing problems maybe it is something in Vista, not sure **
4) With ACC program: found in "Toolbox" you no longer have to worry about the "OLD" way of doing things, this program designed for the Azbox WILL write the files to both disks in the Azbox and your old list with all the old satellites will no longer be there nor will they come back.

Now you write that your 46 sat list is ready, is that enough ?
There is no reason to "starve" yourself, as things in this hobby change and you may find in the future that you will need more sats to do what you want it to do down the road, but if your happy with that then it all OK!


When I use Toolbox, I download the channel list from the azbox using Maz (which is in the toolbox) to my pc to a specially created folder.
I can then open this folder and it will have 3 files in there.
all_channel.dat
antenna_list.dat
DVBS.dat

Do not delete any of these 3 files!
Using ACC upload the all_channel.dat file to the azbox, it will automatically update the azbox with the other 2 without you doing anything more.
I follow my own directions I posted here in "How to North Americanize Your Azbox".

Even though you already may have some of the programs found in "Toolbox" don't delete those standalone programs from your PC.
Especially if they are working for you, but use the Toolbox if possible to open the programs so things are done within one. Not that it may matter but just in case, in light of so many having difficulties getting one particular program to work for them.
Remember this program was written by folks in Europe so we are just tagging along for the ride here.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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Former member 209992
Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.
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Was down due to an emergency update at the ISP. They did email me seconds before they took it down and apologized for the short notice.

However once the server was back online NGINX failed to start.

I was at the grocery store and just rebooted the entire server and everything came back up again.

Just got home from the grocery store I will bring in the groceries and then take a look at what NGINX failed the first time.

NGINX
The site uses Nugenix?!


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Scott Greczkowski
Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
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Nature will develop better idiots.
God help us.
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I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
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They ought to have fun with this… :devilish
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call
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A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.
Foxbat
Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take
Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
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Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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Foxbat
Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
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Well, that was a waste of effort. Our new Cadillac comes with a three-month free trial. Good that it's free, bad that I'll have to go through the Cancellation Dance all over again…
I just bought a Ram 1500 truck with a 3 month free trial. What to do when it ends?

All I want is music and news, but it is listed for $11.99 + $5.00 more for news. But $16.99 per month isn't worth it to me.
comfortably_numb
What to do when it ends?

Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
harshness
Ask for the "All Access Plan" for $5/month.
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
Jimbo
Since the agents are now AI, you keep refusing the offer until you can justify the cost.
Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
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Not entirely true ...
If you ask for a Human, you'll get one ...
You will definitely know when you do.
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Jimbo
Don't you mean phone sex operators:biggrin
Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
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Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
Jimbo
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.
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Is That why you keep SXM ??? :biggrin
when i say cancel. they give the moon and stars!!! iv'e gotten free radios and a free month once since it was my bday ;).
osu1991
Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
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If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
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They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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