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I was trying to manually add the CW network feeds to G17, transponder 1 (H-3720).

I used PID Edit under Advanced Scan. I had no problem adding the first channel. I added the second and third channel with the editor. All three channels were present on the PID editor screen.

I exited and went to TV mode. Only the last entered channel appeared on the channel list. I tried rebooting between channel additions and used different channel names. Nothing worked.

Firmware is 0.9.5020. I had the same problem with older firmware. None of the third party channel editors appear to have channel add capability.

Is there a solution to this problem?

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vc2
vc2
OK, adding SID values solved the problem.

I did the same as I did originally with one exception. Originally, I left the SID field blank.
This time I used 1, 2, and 3 for East, Central, and West SID values.

I set PCR = VPID
I set PMT PID = 0 (default setting)(video goes black with other settings)

The PID editor is all that is needed. There's no need to scan.
The AZBox won't save the settings correctly unless a unique SID value is provided. That was the problem.
AcWxRadar
OK, adding SID values solved the problem.

I did the same as I did originally with one exception. Originally, I left the SID field blank.
This time I used 1, 2, and 3 for East, Central, and West SID values.

I set PCR = VPID
I set PMT PID = 0 (default setting)(video goes black with other settings)

The PID editor is all that is needed. There's no need to scan.
The AZBox won't save the settings correctly unless a unique SID value is provided. That was the problem.

Excellent work VC2!

Why don't you rewrite your procedures (as you wrote them in post #6) with the changes and repost them? Might come in very handy for others! :)

RADAR
stargaze
Here is what I did:
Go to Sat/TP Edit
Enter the TP Freq "
in this case "3720"
Symbol rate
in this case "26700"
FEC
in this case "3/4"
Modulation
in this case "DVB-S/QPSK
save it
Then back-out to Advanced scan and highlight the TP Freq I want.
go to pid edit and it is empty: ok now hit the green button to add
Key in name : CW East (use remote)
PMT Pid = 0
Sid = 1
PCR=101
V/pid = 101
V/type Mpeg-2
A/pid=102
A/type = mpeg 2
Save "YES".
Now hit the green button again!
Key in name : CW West
PMT Pid = 0
Sid = 2
PCR=201
V/pid = 201
V/type Mpeg-2
A/pid=202
A/type = mpeg 2
Now save it."YES" then...
Hit the green button again to add a tp
Key in name : CW Mt.
PMT Pid = 0
Sid = 3
PCR=301
V/pid = 301
V/type Mpeg-2
A/pid=302
A/type = mpeg 2
hit Yes /"save"

this is all done using your remote.
vc2
vc2
Excellent work VC2!

Why don't you rewrite your procedures (as you wrote them in post #6) with the changes and repost them? Might come in very handy for others! :)
RADAR
Code:
[B]

How To Manually Add Channels for CW (SD) Reception[/B]

[B]1.[/B] Go To Advanced Scan Menu
[B]2.[/B] Select Satellite (91.0 West Galaxy 17)
[B]3.[/B] Select Transponder (H 3720)
[B]4.[/B] Select PID Edit
[B]5.[/B] ADD new PID, Fill In Values For:

      [B]Channel Name: [COLOR=green]CW East [/COLOR][/B]
      [B]PMT PID: [COLOR=green]0[/COLOR][/B] (default value)(other values may cause black screen)
      [B]SID: [COLOR=green]1[/COLOR][/B] (any unique non conflicting value)
      [B]PCR: [COLOR=green]101[/COLOR][/B] (Same as VPID value)
      [B]Video PID: [COLOR=green]101[/COLOR][/B] (Enter VPID value)(CW West = 201)(CW Central = 301)
      [B]Video Type: [COLOR=green]MPEG2[/COLOR][/B] (select MPEG2 from menu for CW SD feeds)
      [B]Audio PID: [COLOR=green]102[/COLOR][/B] (Enter APID value)(CW West = 202)(CW Central = 302)
      [B]Audio Type: [COLOR=green]MPEG2[/COLOR][/B] (select MPEG2 from menu for CW SD feeds)

      Select [B]Yes[/B] at bottom of menu

[B]6.[/B] Repeat #5 for 2 additional channels
[B]7.[/B] Exit & go to TV

The correct transponder FEC and Symbol Rate values should appear 
automatically when the satellite and transponder frequency is selected
in steps 2 and 3.

Duplicate SID values will cause channel selection errors. 
Only the last entered channel with a conflicting SID will be displayed.
stargaze
Code:
[B]

How To Manually Add Channels for CW (SD) Reception[/B]

[B]1.[/B] Go To Advanced Scan Menu
[B]2.[/B] Select Satellite (91.0 West Galaxy 17)
[B]3.[/B] Select Transponder (H 3720)
[B]4.[/B] Select PID Edit
[B]5.[/B] ADD new PID, Fill In Values For:

      [B]Channel Name: [COLOR=green]CW East [/COLOR][/B]
      [B]PMT PID: [COLOR=green]0[/COLOR][/B] (default value)(other values may cause black screen)
      [B]SID: [COLOR=green]1[/COLOR][/B] (any unique non conflicting value)
      [B]PCR: [COLOR=green]101[/COLOR][/B] (Same as VPID value)
      [B]Video PID: [COLOR=green]101[/COLOR][/B] (Enter VPID value)(CW West = 201)(CW Central = 301)
      [B]Video Type: [COLOR=green]MPEG2[/COLOR][/B] (select MPEG2 from menu for CW SD feeds)
      [B]Audio PID: [COLOR=green]102[/COLOR][/B] (Enter APID value)(CW West = 202)(CW Central = 302)
      [B]Audio Type: [COLOR=green]MPEG2[/COLOR][/B] (select MPEG2 from menu for CW SD feeds)

      Select [B]Yes[/B] at bottom of menu

[B]6.[/B] Repeat #5 for 2 additional channels
[B]7.[/B] Exit & go to TV

The correct transponder FEC and Symbol Rate values should appear 
automatically when the satellite and transponder frequency is selected
in steps 2 and 3.

Duplicate SID values will cause channel selection errors. 
Only the last entered channel with a conflicting SID will be displayed.

Now as an addition to this thread:
If you want to record these channels using the azbox place an entry into the PMT Pid field.
Use: 123 for the first channel's PMT
Use: 456 for the second channels PMT
Use: 789 for the third channels PMT

You will now be able to record these channels using the azbox.
vc2
vc2
Now as an addition to this thread:
If you want to record these channels using the azbox place an entry into the PMT Pid field.
Use: 123 for the first channel's PMT
Use: 456 for the second channels PMT
Use: 789 for the third channels PMT

You will now be able to record these channels using the azbox.

Very Good!

I initially had the PMT PID entry set equal to the VPID value. This resulted in a black screen with audio. Leaving the value at zero restored the video.

The values suggested here for SID (Service ID) and PMT PID (Program Map Table Packet ID) are obviously made up, but work for our purposes. It would still be nice to know the real values that are used by CW for each channel.
vc2
vc2
Now as an addition to this thread:
If you want to record these channels using the azbox place an entry into the PMT Pid field.
Use: 123 for the first channel's PMT
Use: 456 for the second channels PMT
Use: 789 for the third channels PMT

You will now be able to record these channels using the azbox.
I tried this and was able to make recordings, however, the resulting files are corrupt.

Mediainfo is reporting: Format profile : No PAT/PMT
Code:
General
Complete name                    : C:\Documents and Settings\admin\Desktop\CW E__1287788516.ts
Format                           : MPEG-TS
[COLOR=red][B]Format profile                   : No PAT/PMT[/B][/COLOR]
File size                        : 21.8 MiB
Duration                         : 29s 996ms
Overall bit rate                 : 6 104 Kbps

Video
ID                               : 101 (0x65)
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, Matrix          : Default
Format settings, GOP             : M=3, N=15
Duration                         : 29s 996ms
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 5 608 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 6 000 Kbps
Width                            : 704 pixels
Height                           : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4:3
Frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
Standard                         : NTSC
Color space                      : YUV
Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
Bit depth                        : 8 bits
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.554
Stream size                      : 20.1 MiB (92%)

Audio
ID                               : 102 (0x66)
Format                           : MPEG Audio
Format version                   : Version 1
Format profile                   : Layer 2
Duration                         : 29s 760ms
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 192 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : -134ms
Stream size                      : 698 KiB (3%)

Text #1
ID                               : 101 (0x65)608-1
Format                           : EIA-608
Muxing mode                      : MPEG Video / SCTE 20
Muxing mode, more info           : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                         : 29s 996ms
Stream size                      : 0.00 Byte (0%)

Text #2
ID                               : 101 (0x65)608-2
Format                           : EIA-608
Muxing mode                      : MPEG Video / SCTE 20
Muxing mode, more info           : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                         : 29s 996ms
Stream size                      : 0.00 Byte (0%)
The resulting file cannot be played on a PC with VLC. Good recordings from other channels have these tables.

It appears that the real PMT PID value is required for good exportable recordings. If AZBox doesn't know the real PMT PID value, it can't record the PMT packets.
stargaze
The resulting file cannot be played on a PC with VLC. Good recordings from other channels have these tables.

It appears that the real PMT PID value is required for good exportable recordings. If AZBox doesn't know the real PMT PID value, it can't record the PMT packets.

ok but you didn't ask that before...:confused:
I just gave you info to record it to the azbox, and ability to watch it from the box. Since I don't watch tv on my pc I can not help you with that one..:(

But it is good to know for future reference.
Babadem
Here is what I did:
Go to Sat/TP Edit
Enter the TP Freq "
in this case "3720"
Symbol rate
in this case "26700"
FEC
in this case "3/4"
Modulation
in this case "DVB-S/QPSK
save it
Then back-out to Advanced scan and highlight the TP Freq I want.
go to pid edit and it is empty: ok now hit the green button to add
Key in name : CW East (use remote)
PMT Pid = 0
Sid = 1
PCR=101
V/pid = 101
V/type Mpeg-2
A/pid=102
A/type = mpeg 2
Save "YES".
Now hit the green button again!
Key in name : CW West
PMT Pid = 0
Sid = 2
PCR=201
V/pid = 201
V/type Mpeg-2
A/pid=202
A/type = mpeg 2
Now save it."YES" then...
Hit the green button again to add a tp
Key in name : CW Mt.
PMT Pid = 0
Sid = 3
PCR=301
V/pid = 301
V/type Mpeg-2
A/pid=302
A/type = mpeg 2
hit Yes /"save"

this is all done using your remote.
Good tutorial!
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Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
AZ.
AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Nominal
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
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So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

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Another example:

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The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.