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has anybody tried this receiver?

my main questions are....

does this receiver pull in DVB-S2?

and how is the blind scan?....or does it blind scan at all?
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from a simple google it looks like the DVB-S2 is not "factory" DVB-S2 if you catch my drift. Also noticed they heavily advertise that it has a ethernet port which furthers point 1.

There are 2 types of DVB-S2 8PSK boards out there.....one that gets the legal stuff and one that won't. A good example is Pansat. There are 2 boards out there. That factory one that can lock PBS, RTV, etc and a 3rd party "illuminate" board that can lock Dish stuff and wont lock the normal S2 stuff
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from a simple google it looks like the DVB-S2 is not "factory" DVB-S2 if you catch my drift. Also noticed they heavily advertise that it has a ethernet port which furthers point 1.

There are 2 types of DVB-S2 8PSK boards out there.....one that gets the legal stuff and one that won't. A good example is Pansat. There are 2 boards out there. That factory one that can lock PBS, RTV, etc and a 3rd party "illuminate" board that can lock Dish stuff and wont lock the normal S2 stuff

i realize all of that....but in the specs it says DVB-S2....and technical specs normally refer to the receiver "as is" or "out of the box"....without any add-ons or modifications....
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i realize all of that....but in the specs it says DVB-S2....and technical specs normally refer to the receiver "as is" or "out of the box"

so whats the difference if its built in or if its a card? Both can be built the same way. Again they can list any specs they want to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. I know a great example is the Captiveworks 600. It had in the specs blind scan yet it didnt work at all. But the point is there are 2 types of boards out there...one that gets legal stuff and one that doesn't.
I know there are some other receivers out there (and have been reported) that are the same way. They claim DVB-S2 built in yet wont pick up any legal DVB-S2 because the S2 card built in only handles Turbo 8PSK (AKA Dish)
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I know there are some other receivers out there (and have been reported) that are the same way. They claim DVB-S2 built in yet wont pick up any legal DVB-S2 because the S2 card built in only handles Turbo 8PSK (AKA Dish)

there are no receivers on the market (or ever have been) that can pickup turbo 8psk "out of the box"....that is for obvious legal reasons....that would be asking for a lawsuit....how could you justify in a court of law why you are selling a receiver with turbo 8psk when there are NO FTA transponders that require it?....lol....case closed....guilty!

and i agree with you there are MANY receivers sold that advertise DVB-S2 but dont do it....SV8000 is a good example....they dont make an add on card for the ILink 9500HD for DVB-S2 (legal FTA)....so if it doesnt do DVB-S2 "out of the box" like they claim then im screwed....thats what im trying to find out....
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so whats the difference if its built in or if its a card? Both can be built the same way. )

because they dont make a DVB-S2 add on for the legal stuff....thats the difference....they only make the turbo 8psk....so if it wont get DVB-S2 "out of the box" i dont want it....thats what im trying to find out....
brentb636
You may have to call the dealer to find out, and buy it, if he says "yes, it does", and then check it out . If it doesn't work , you'll have to send it back . Find a reputable dealer, or buy on ebay where you can ask the questions in public and build a foundation for returning it if it doesn't perform as advertised by the dealer and by the questions you ask prior to purchase. Clearly, no one on this forum is testifying that the receiver is a fine dvb-s2 box, so far.
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there are no receivers on the market (or ever have been) that can pickup turbo 8psk "out of the box"....that is for obvious legal reasons....that would be asking for a lawsuit....how could you justify in a court of law why you are selling a receiver with turbo 8psk when there are NO FTA transponders that require it?....lol....case closed....guilty!.

All they have to do is say it does DVB-S2.....whether it does only QPSK or QPSK & 8PSK or whatever is up to interpretation...how many receivers went out with the "newest factory software" in it only to be hackerware? Again you can write down any specs you want to sell a bunch of them to folks ;)
pro96
Yup by the looks no one here has this receiver .. so looks like no one will answer you so move on and buy it yourself to find out
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Look on ebay for your best info. Sellers "can't" list bad info there.
No mention of DVB-S2 or 8PSK.
Now there are "8PSK" Add-On boards available, but for the original price of the unit, shouldn't need an add-on board (hint - hint Pansat)
But the Add-On cards does fit several other "popular" models.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
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Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
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Johnson built it, but without the Herschel Walker trade, it never happens.
Jerry made himself General Manager after he bought the team but make no mistake Jimmy engineered that trade. As well as a lot of others at the time.
rvvaquero
Jimmy Johnson is a football guy. Jerry Jones is a marketer (hustler).

When I see a football player get a 15 yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct (like taunting) in a close game, I often wonder what he was thinking. Was he thinking, I'm doing everything I can to make this a better team and help win a championship? Or, was he saying to himself, I want everyone to notice how great I am?

Johnson inspires one, Jones the other.
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Cowboys. Fireworks performance from their O.
Dolphins. Finally logged in a W. There won't be many. Enjoy it, Miami fans.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

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Dancing Days - Led Zeppelin
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Dancing in the Street - Van Halen
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Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
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Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
Let me fix that for you:
Baker Street - Gerry Rafferty
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The 59th Street Bridge Song -- Simon & Garfunkel
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
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It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
harshness
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
dishstaller
Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
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Haven't listened AM or FM in years
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
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can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
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But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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