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chum1976
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C-BAND to FTA question

Hi everyone,

I have a BUD from the mid 1990's I finally got cleaned up and now I am going to buy a sathawk powertech v3000 gbox, and a FTA digital receiver. Do I need anything else?

Thanks! :)
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FaT Air
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Current system includes a 10ft mesh dish and dsr922
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Is it a fixed dish, or does it have an actuator?
How do I know what LNBF is on the dish?
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it's the thing under the Cone. Model #'s? It's probably a corotor feed with an C band LNB bolted onto it, but I might be wrong. Might upgrade to a C-Ku LNBF, but it's all up to what you want.
Are there any resources for wiring this all together?
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Yeah - ask for it in a new thread when you get your equipment list together. But think you could just slave the FTA to the 922 or vice-versa.
FTA receiver Suggestions? Yep! What I think is the "Bang for the buck winner". an SSO: SatHawk or Solomend or Openbox.:)
Forget about a "Preprogrammed" receiver. All receivers, no mater what brand, only come with some basic TP info that may or may not help with programming. Some dealers may program the active TP's from some previous week, but you still have to program the mover's locations. Satelliteguys forum is full of info, and the members can help you with setting it up. Have a nice day!
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odinbear
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FaT Air said:
Is it a fixed dish, or does it have an actuator?
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It moves, good strong motor and actuator.
FaT Air said:
it's the thing under the Cone. Model #'s? It's probably a corotor feed with an C band LNB bolted onto it, but I might be wrong. Might upgrade to a C-Ku LNBF, but it's all up to what you want.
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The Coronator feedhorn with a Cband LNB sounds right (going from memory) -
A New Feedhorn LNBF with C/KU is the DMX241 , right? (found new for only 20bucks? Is this an easy change and is this what we should get??

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Yeah - ask for it in a new thread when you get your equipment list together. But think you could just slave the FTA to the 922 or vice-versa.
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So... we don't need a separate box to move dish/polarity for FTA (all that is handled by the FTA receiver?)

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FTA receiver Suggestions? Yep! What I think is the "Bang for the buck winner". an SSO: SatHawk or Solomend or Openbox.:)
Forget about a "Preprogrammed" receiver. All receivers, no mater what brand, only come with some basic TP info that may or may not help with programming. Some dealers may program the active TP's from some previous week, but you still have to program the mover's locations. Satelliteguys forum is full of info, and the members can help you with setting it up. Have a nice day!
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What is TP ?? & SSO ????? & IFC??? - Thanks for the suggestions on receivers.... looking them up now.
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FaT Air
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LNBF with C/KU is the DMX241 , right?
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Wrong, DMX241 is C band only, C & ku is DMX741. I don't know about the 922 being able to control the polarity on a voltage controlled LNBF, but all FTA receivers use that standard. Only a very few FTA receivers can operate a servo (on a polarotor feed).
Is this an easy change
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Very easy.
So... we don't need a separate box to move dish/polarity for FTA (all that is handled by the FTA receiver?)
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At present, FTA could be added with your 922 doing the moving and polarity. The FTA receiver doesn't move the dish, but it can be programmed to send commands to a Gbox, or Vbox, which will move the dish.
What is TP ?? & SSO ????? & IFC???
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TP = transponder, along with SR describes where on a sat you will find channels.
SSO = my "shorthand" for a SatHawk or Solomind or Openbox brand of HD and S2 capable FTA receivers.
IFC(???) ITC - In The Clear, unscrambled channels.
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truckracer
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a 6' dish on c band is a compromised system at best. they do work for quite a bit of stuff up there but you will definitely come across feeds you can't possibly lock that a larger dish can easily. i would definitely go for the biggest you can get your hands on.
i do know from experience that a well tuned 7.5' dish will tune most anything in the sky. They 7.5' will yield lower signal quality levels than a 10' but it will get most dvb s2 also. (thats a new signal standard that is gaining popularity).

Get a free to air receiver that can do "blind scan" or "smart search" so it can find transponder frequency and channel info automatically. this is a must in the fta world. The older receivers had to have everything input into the menu's. You constantly had to rely on other sources for channel info that was often always outdated.

as far as lnbf's ....i had a bsc 621 c/ku lnbf combo a while back. c band part worked great but the ku performance was awful.
it didn't cost much but i wanted good ku reception. i don't know about the dmx 741...looks like the same junk to me.

If your dish has a corotor feedhorn with a c and ku lnbs, that will give you rock solid performance on both bands if the dish is setup properly and not warped. You do have to flip channels on the analog box to get the proper "horizontal" and "vertical" positions of the feedhorn. its not too confusing after you get the hang of it.

Or for top notch performance also you go with a good c band lnbf and use the big dish for c band only.
Then get you a small solid dish with a diseqc motor like an SG2100 and use a dedicated ku dish seperately. Your fta receiver (most have diseqc postioners built in now) can move the small dish.

a little switch called a diseqc switch which looks like a tv splitter can switch between your c band dish and ku band lnbf on the seperate little dish. This is setup in your "antenna settings" in the fta box.
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Chum1976 - In My opinion, a 6 ft dish is what I would recommend as a minimum for C band. It will get most of what's available, but I am sure, not all, especially the S2 feeds. With very carefull alignment, it may serve you well. It is a quick, fairly inexpensive, way of getting started in C band. And when you get that taste of C band, the 10 ft dish may be a project you may want to take on. Expanding on what LoneGunman said - If the sections of the 10 ft dish are not bent out of shape and the mesh doesn't have too many football sized dents or holes, (mesh can be repaired) I would recommend taking that 10 ft dish apart and at least storing it for a while. Then, when the urge get's you, cleaning it up and putting it back in service. Broken bolts can be replaced. Paint can be re-painted. The time you spend rehabilitating it may be very well worth it. Post some pictures, ask some questions, there's many members here that have done all of this.
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Mapleleaf69
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welcome to the true fta experience. i agree with the guys as to getting a 10ft'er set up as it will work better in your favour.ive had mine for about 3 years and i love monkeying around with it in my spare time.ive been trying to alighn it up for over 8 months but still enjoy what satelittles i pick up for now.once you start experiencing this great hobby youll be hooked for life. youll always have the need to want to buy more stuff to keep up on the ever changing signal feeds. i was always happy with just anolog, then dvb-s and now im wanting a dvb-s2 box. this is the best hobby in the world cause it never stays the same and things are always chaging for the better.keep pointing at the stars and enjoy yourself.
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New Apple TV 4K released, plus other Apple Home devices.

Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
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It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
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Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
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Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
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they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
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I assume you mean services, like iCloud and Apple Music, and not actual software sales. Services have been growing quickly for Apple, but hardware still brings home the bacon. As for where Apple's revenue comes from, the iPhone is still king with 49.58% of revenue as of June 2026. Services comes in second with 28%. iPad, Mac, and Wearables/Home makes up the rest. So, that is 72% coming from hardware. Their profit margin is around 25%, FWIW.

I am skeptical the AppleTV 4k makes them much money on the hardware though, which I suspect is what you were getting at.
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What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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You should have looked in the APP STORE instead. ;)
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Will do!
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Am I the only one that hates what Dish did to their mobile app?

I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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Yes a lot cleaner, glossier, and less functional. Someone trying to justify why they are making a big salary. "See look shiny"
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Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
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look again mine says free for 1 month
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look again mine says free for 1 month
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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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wonder why it says that
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look again mine says free for 1 month
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You have a different offer that is free for a shorter timeframe which is different than the one that I and bnewt saw without defining the promotion period as I sent the question to DISH Care via Facebook Messenger and this is the response I got back 20 minutes ago.

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wonder why it says that
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Answer 2 minutes ago from DISH Care via Facebook Messenger:
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This Week in Space 232

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Tim Cook, Elton John & King Charles: A Royal Tech Event

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Watch the New Tesla Roadster Jump, Fly and Barrel-Roll in Mid-Air!

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Frisco King - Paramount Plus


View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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View: https://youtu.be/RHYQYYm5jLM?is=cwxm9t1efsWNl6yy


December 18, 2026 Paramount plus
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BIdMzUBHvjw?feature=share
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Tony as the director.🙄
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Tony as the director.🙄
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Trailer for new Jim Caviezel movie Ghost Soldier

Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


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BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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