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I just noticed that the resolutions are different on the HBO East and West HD feeds and was wondering if anyone can explain why.
I watched a program on HBO (chan. 300) and then realized a few hours later that the same program on HBO West (chan. 303) had a few less lines of resolution. You can see for yourself by recording something on 300, then waiting a few hours and watching the same program on 303, then doing a side-by-side picture-in-picture and at the top of the two pictures you'll see the difference.
Is this from HBO or Dish Network? And which is the "better" picture? I would guess the one with more picture on top, but I'm not sure. Sometimes if you do picture-in-picture on certain channels or programs, you see a tiny strip of white flickering lines across the very top of the picture that I assume you usually don't see because of the TV's overscan, so in those cases I guess the one with less picture where that white stuff is being cropped out would be "better." I don't know. Can the experts here please advise. Thank you.
BTW, I'm seeing this on 722k's in single mode. And I haven't checked the other East/West HD channels yet ( MAX, SHO, STARZ) but I will later tonight or tomorrow. Thanks.
I just noticed that the resolutions are different on the HBO East and West HD feeds and was wondering if anyone can explain why.
I watched a program on HBO (chan. 300) and then realized a few hours later that the same program on HBO West (chan. 303) had a few less lines of resolution. You can see for yourself by recording something on 300, then waiting a few hours and watching the same program on 303, then doing a side-by-side picture-in-picture and at the top of the two pictures you'll see the difference.
Is this from HBO or Dish Network? And which is the "better" picture? I would guess the one with more picture on top, but I'm not sure. Sometimes if you do picture-in-picture on certain channels or programs, you see a tiny strip of white flickering lines across the very top of the picture that I assume you usually don't see because of the TV's overscan, so in those cases I guess the one with less picture where that white stuff is being cropped out would be "better." I don't know. Can the experts here please advise. Thank you.
BTW, I'm seeing this on 722k's in single mode. And I haven't checked the other East/West HD channels yet ( MAX, SHO, STARZ) but I will later tonight or tomorrow. Thanks.
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Agree that HBO is probably to blame for this, but I don't see this as an aspect ratio problem. It's more like a brain-dead analog conversion problem. Note that there is no vertical blanking interval on DTV as there is for NTSC analog. Similarly for digital TVs such as LCD flat panels, there is no need for overscan to hide data riding on the picture. An SD digital picture is already trimmed to exactly 480 vertical lines, and the extra 45 lines of the blanking interval should not be present in the video stream. There is nowhere to put them.
I'll say it again to belabor this point. There is literally no place to "hide" a picture of the closed caption information on a properly-functioning digital TV. Nevertheless, content providers frequently digitize all 525 lines, including the picture of the CC data, and scale that down to 480 lines, and broadcast the whole thing. This should show up as flashing white lines across the top of the screen. Since the CC data is part of the picture, it's difficult for a DTV to detect it and figure out that it should be cropping this errant mess. Some TV set manufacturers, knowing that it's annoying as hell looking at a flashing white line across the top, and knowing that many content providers don't know what they're doing, automatically crop your picture again.
If you have a DTV that never shows the flashing white line across the top fairly frequently on OTA broadcasts, then you probably have a set that never shows you all 480 lines of your picture! This is sub-SD resolution.
Agree that HBO is probably to blame for this, but I don't see this as an aspect ratio problem. It's more like a brain-dead analog conversion problem. Note that there is no vertical blanking interval on DTV as there is for NTSC analog. Similarly for digital TVs such as LCD flat panels, there is no need for overscan to hide data riding on the picture. An SD digital picture is already trimmed to exactly 480 vertical lines, and the extra 45 lines of the blanking interval should not be present in the video stream. There is nowhere to put them.
I'll say it again to belabor this point. There is literally no place to "hide" a picture of the closed caption information on a properly-functioning digital TV. Nevertheless, content providers frequently digitize all 525 lines, including the picture of the CC data, and scale that down to 480 lines, and broadcast the whole thing. This should show up as flashing white lines across the top of the screen. Since the CC data is part of the picture, it's difficult for a DTV to detect it and figure out that it should be cropping this errant mess. Some TV set manufacturers, knowing that it's annoying as hell looking at a flashing white line across the top, and knowing that many content providers don't know what they're doing, automatically crop your picture again.
If you have a DTV that never shows the flashing white line across the top fairly frequently on OTA broadcasts, then you probably have a set that never shows you all 480 lines of your picture! This is sub-SD resolution.
That is all related to SD and I think he was talking about to different problems in HD. What it sounds like is the aspect ratio was a bit off cause a drop of the frame. Meaning that it is set for no oversacn at all and showing the digital CC white data marks. I see this constantly in local programs (news) for local stations that do a bad job of the upconversion of their show hence on good sets that are not set for overscan it shows up. The monitors at their stations are most likely set for overscan & so it isn't seen there. The sync of the show he was seeing could have been just a tiny bit off and so the shift down ward. I just checked and there is no problem at present so as I said it may have been just that one show. But back to the original point it is not a resolution change. It is another problem and will it be caught at HBO maybe, maybe not as they are not starring at one feed but numerous ones. So at their master control an alarm isn't going off so they miss it. The alarm only sounds if there is signal loss or black shows up too long. The master control is sending out at least 10 HD FEEDS at all times (just the movie channels going out) don't know what else is being sent from them at the same time. So it would be very easy to not notice one slightly out of sync feed.
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Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.
DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.
The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.
It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.
DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.
The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.
It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.
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Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.
DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?
Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.
Thanks.
Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.
Thanks.
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Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
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I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.
I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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The wait’s felt a little like watching for a dragon egg to hatch, but HBO’s hugely anticipated Game of Thrones prequel series finally has a release date. House of the Dragon will debut the first of its initial 10-episode season this summer, the network revealed today in a series of tweets that...
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