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Jimbo
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Record crowd watches hockey game



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ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- The moment everyone was waiting for finally came during the third period, when fans at Michigan Stadium found out for certain they'd set a hockey attendance record.

Carl Hagelin, a Michigan forward, paused to savor the atmosphere.

"I think we all got goose bumps," Hagelin said. "It was just amazing to see all those people -- probably the loudest environment I've ever been in."

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Leon Halip/Getty ImagesThe 113,411 fans at the Michigan-Michigan State game Saturday set both hockey and Michigan Stadium attendance records.

Hagelin scored two goals in the Wolverines' 5-0 victory over Michigan State on Saturday, but the final score was only part of what made this a memorable experience. The crowd, which filled the outdoor stadium's expansive bowl, set a world attendance record for a hockey game.

Michigan announced the attendance at 113,411 during a brief stoppage in play in the third period, although Mike Janela of Guinness World Records said his organization hadn't determined its official count yet. Janela did verify that the attendance was more than enough for a world record.

The previous mark for a hockey game was 77,803 at this year's world championship in Germany.

"Ten years from now, I'm probably going to remember the most fun I've ever had on the ice," Michigan State's Torey Krug said. "Look at these 22-year-old men and they're like little kids."

The game -- dubbed "The Big Chill at the Big House" -- took place nine years after the same two teams played another outdoor game at Michigan State's football stadium. Since then, the idea has been copied at the college level and by the NHL.

The huge crowd made this edition unique. The school's announced attendance would make this the largest crowd to see any event at Michigan Stadium, surpassing the 113,090 for a football game earlier this year.

"I don't know where they found the new seats," cracked Michigan coach Red Berenson, whose normal home venue holds 6,637. "It's good for the state of Michigan. When you have a game like this in a state where the economy is bad, it gives you something to feel good about."

The "Big Chill" nickname was a bit of a misnomer, with the temperature in the low 40s at the beginning of the game. With the lines on Michigan's football field still clearly visible, the Olympic-sized rink stretched from one 15-yard line to the other. Instead of adding even more seats for fans, organizers kept the area around the ice clear so fireworks could be set off after goals and again after the game.

"We were in trouble if it rained," Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon said. "We could handle a little snow. In fact, I thought it would be kind of festive to have a little bit of snow, and temperatures -- we could really handle a fair variant of temperatures. Warmer was better for the ice, but we were going to be fine unless we had rain. Rain and sleet, that would have been dangerous for the players."

The sky was fairly clear when the Michigan band began performing in the north end zone before the start of the game. Then Jon Merrill opened the scoring with a shot from the point in the first period, and the crowd let loose with a roar normally reserved for touchdowns in this venue.

Microphones were placed close enough to the ice to amplify the normal hockey sounds of the puck hitting the boards and players skating swiftly back and forth, making it easier for those seated far away to feel like they were part of the action.

An Olympic-sized rink, which is wider than an NHL version, was used to make the sheet look a little less small on top of the football field.

Although wind and rough ice can always cause problems at events like this, the game wasn't too sloppy. Merrill added a second goal before the end of the first period, and then Hagelin added one in the second and another in the third. David Wohlberg completed the scoring for Michigan.

Shawn Hunwick finished with 34 saves for the Wolverines.

Janela said Guinness would need a bit longer to come up with an official attendance figure, possibly using detailed photos of the crowd to make a final count. Guinness receives over 1,000 record applications a week, although only about three percent are approved.

"People really latch on to one I did in Mexico for the largest serving of roast pork -- over 3,000 pounds," Janela said. "I've always wanted to come to the Big House. I never thought it would be for a hockey game."
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riffjim4069
OK, I can't understand why there is nary a mention of this here in the Sports Forum. The Big Chill in the Big House was huge for several reasons:

1. The attendance of 113,411 eclipsed the former Hockey attendance record (Germany) by more than 35,000.
2. More people attended this event than any football game in Michigan Stadium history (and they've had 100,000+ fans per game since 1975).
3. Largest NCAA crowd ever (again, surpassing Michigan's football program).
4. This event was attended by more than 42,000 fans over the NHL's record setting 2008 Winter Classic.
5. Eclipses the NFL's single game record (a Super Bowl no less) by almost 10,000.
6. Surpasses the MLB's single game attendance record by more than 20,000.
Ramy
Gee wiz, you already need binoculors in the upper sections as it is. That is just stupid in my opinion to be way up there where you can't see anything on the field.

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Jimbo
Gee wiz, you already need binoculors in the upper sections as it is. That is just stupid in my opinion to be way up there where you can't see anything on the field.

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But it's that way for ANY outdoor stadium .... it's more of the " I was there" effect, than anything.

You needed binoculars for ANYTHING in the RED seats at Riverfront and that was used everyday that way ....
Ramy
But it's that way for ANY outdoor stadium .... it's more of the " I was there" effect, than anything.

You needed binoculars for ANYTHING in the RED seats at Riverfront and that was used everyday that way ....

True.
DodgerKing
OK, I can't understand why there is nary a mention of this here in the Sports Forum. The Big Chill in the Big House was huge for several reasons:

1. The attendance of 113,411 eclipsed the former Hockey attendance record (Germany) by more than 35,000.
2. More people attended this event than any football game in Michigan Stadium history (and they've had 100,000+ fans per game since 1975).
3. Largest NCAA crowd ever (again, surpassing Michigan's football program).
4. This event was attended by more than 42,000 fans over the NHL's record setting 2008 Winter Classic.
5. Eclipses the NFL's single game record (a Super Bowl no less) by almost 10,000.
6. Surpasses the MLB's single game attendance record by more than 20,000.
Not true. The Dodgers and Redsox played a game in 2008 in the coliseum. They drew 115,300.

coliseumgallery8.jpg


Technically the largest crowd ever was during a baseball game
Paul Wozniak
Guiness's numbers for this game are over 30K lower. How? Judging by the pic's it sure looks like the Big House is full to me.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Soul Man - The Blues Brothers
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Heart Full Of Soul - Rush
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Expressway to Your Heart -- The Soul Survivors
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Find A Way To My Heart - Phil Collins
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FIND Your Way Back-Jefferson Starship
Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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cp2k
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Jimbo
I like the move to campus sites for the early games. That adds a fun new dimension for fans, and cuts down on some of the travel expenses that would come with having to follow a team all the way through the playoffs at neutral sites.
Agree ... they started doing that a few years ago.
Bruce
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Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

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In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Jimbo
In my area Cox (now Spectrum) has run everything underground instead of on poles.
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
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Bobby
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
Jimbo
In my local area all underground utilities are under the sidewalk. Of course from there, when entering your property, They are at least 18" in your dirt.
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
B
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
R
Thats good, the neighborhood generally look better with buried plant ... until someone puts a shovel into the line planting the Spring Garden. :(
My area is very rocky, so there will be no shovels into the lines. Most of the lines were bored and the one's not bored where dug at least 18" deep. Cox had flagged my yard for them to dig up. But the foreman of the crew said he was not going to tear up my grass. He ended up installing the cable across the street at a vacant lot instead and bored the street for my pedestal. The line from the pedestal to my house could be damaged being it is fairly shallow.
Jimbo
My fiber isp put everything in conduit, except for the drop line to the NID and it it buried 10 inches
Really, you Lucky Dog !

Do you Work for that ISP ? :biggrin
Bobby
I bet MOST of them are NOT 18", they may suppose to be, but I doubt they are .

Edison is definitely deep enough, but thats the only one ...
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.
So, if theres a issue with any buried line, the sidewalk needs to be dug up as well ???
That sucks.
Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.
Jimbo
I did the underground trench utility designs for 9 years. Gas and electric were 24". Telephone and CATV were 18". These were for new construction. Add on construction could be anywhere. All of the utilities went from their terminal points to a common utility point on the house. They were in a single trench.

Sometimes…. electric and CATV are in conduit so replacement is pretty easy. Telephone, specifically Pacific Telephone, Pacific Bell, SBC, ATT are direct buried and use encap termination directly onto the feed cable. That is always a sidewalk digup.
Ok, your talking in the right of way ...
I thought you were talking about from the ped to the houses.

Fortunately you don't usually get Cable cuts Under a sidewalk, usually its when a Construction crew us digging with major equipment.

The drops to the house are not going to be very deep, sometimes barely under the sod. 6" is a godsend.
osu1991
I'm fortunate to have 3 fiber providers now.

Cox and T mobile bored and put conduit in before pulling the fiber thru the easement in my neighborhood . Windstream Kinetic I can't remember if they pulled conduit first or not. I remember they didn't have a boring machine when they came thru my yard, they used that for the mainline crossing under the street but had a vibratory plow in my backyard. I remember seeing some blue conduit just don't remember where it was being used. Windstream barely put the fiber run from the pedestal to my house about 2 inches underground. Landscaper hit it while putting landscaping around the pedestal they added to my yard. I made sure they buried it at least 12 inches when they replaced it.

AEP/ PSO the electric company has their main distribution lines running on poles along the back of my property. Cox has their main distribution line hung on those poles before going underground through the neighborhood.

I'm in the middle of a damage claim and about to take them to court as insurance is trying to get out of it claiming the lines were too low. Had an oversized load get lost and try to turn around in an older neighborhood. Pulled down 5 blocks of fiber with separate fiber lines belonging to the city, Cox/Spectrum and ATT.
ewindowman
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Bruce
fmj77
Mr. Morris is no journalist. That article reads like a political hit job.
dishstaller
That article reads like a political hit job.
You can say that for about 90% of so-called news articles these days.
S

Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers
comfortably_numb

Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
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Too bad their service is expensive and their coverage sucks compared to the other two of the Big 3
Was that a back door compliment for Verizon?
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dishstaller
Meanwhile att is getting rid of overseas call centers

Too little too late.

I can actually shed some light on the corp attitude towards call centers.

2015-2017 I was on the Viasat Dealer Council. They would fly us out to CO or CA and wine and dine us. Pretty cool but I was there to give my input because I was a top retailer and I wanted things to improve.
Anyway, at one of the meetings I brought up the fact that customers constantly complained about the overseas call centers. The VP of the company told me that I just didn't understand....those people cost something like 25% of what US employees would cost. Well, as usual when I went out to these meetings, I was loaded for bear....ie facts. I gave them an example of a customer who spent over an hour with one of these call centers and still never got her issue resolved. She called me the next morning after we opened and I had her situation fixed in 2 minutes. I told him "So you guys paid this overseas call center X amount but the customer still wasn't taken care of. I on the other hand, and a US call center probably would have as well because there wouldn't have been the language barrier, had her taken care of in 2 min. so your savings just went right out the door because a US call center would have taken care of her and MANY other customers while your overseas call center did nothing more than PISS off a customer.
Blank stares was all I got.

And THAT was when I realized just how incompetent most of the people are who run these companies. It WAS an enlightening experience.
Bobby
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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long_time_Dish
No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
It's on Prime.
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It's on Prime.
Ah, ok, thanks!
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Foxbat
The World Series Game 1 quality was excellent, the Dolby Surround put us in the seats. Thanks, Dish!
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Not seeing many 4k games on the 148 channels lately?

Also I do not see the 4KFox channel on 148-01; I also do not subscribed to our Local Houston channels.

Maybe I need to subscribe to locals or add the National Action Pack? Not sure the extra cost is worth it??

thx for any info or suggestions

S
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Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
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Jimbo
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Bruce
That thier own stupidity ...

They make it hard to find the game when its on FOX 1 game, then FS1, then on Tru or some other little ity biyy channel that people rerely watch and can't find. (I don't know if FOX is TRU or not, but thats what I'm saying, they put games on obscure channels and expect people to easily find it and watch.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
AZ.
AZ.
Every WS game was on the main Fox Broadcast Channel, what are you referring to?
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need a old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
Bruce
Throughout the playoffs most games were not over the air. They were on FS1 or TrueTV, HBO, TBS....So without a sports package you need FS1, and the others you need an old school TV package. If I had to guess, close to 75% of playoff games were not on free local TV.
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Bobby
But I never posted about the playoffs, only the World Series.

And a 4 million drop in households is a big deal, specially what Fox pays for it, they are already losing money on the MLB contract, now even more, since they might have to give some of the money back to advertisers, since it might of not made certain ratings goals.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
AZ.
AZ.
Last year it was the Dodgers and Bluejays. This year is was the Brewers and the Rays, two teams that never won a World Series. Last year the Dodgers were the former year champion, can they do a repeat against a Toronto team that looked unbeatable. That World Series was a classic between two teams that really wanted it. The highlight of this year was can Milwaukee go 4-0 like they did to the Dodgers, and they just about did.
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
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TRG
According to industry figures reported by Sports Media Watch, this year's World Series averaged 11.69 million viewers on FOX, down 26% from the 15.71 million average the 2025 series delivered.

People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Bruce
Yep ratings have lots to do with what teams are playing. Large market over smaller. Underdog teams people want to root for. But If you make it hard to watch all the playoffs, you will get less interest for the World Series.
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Jimbo
People are tired of watching the World Series without the Yankees. :devilish :biggrin
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
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Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Jimbo
Except last year, the playoffs were aired on the same channels as this year.
True, but you had 2 Large Markets in it .
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Quick Question, WITHOUT Looking it up ...
Who played in the World Series last year ?
Two MLB teams.
Jimbo
Two MLB teams.
Now, having low numbers this past year doesn't surprise me at all, you had 2 teams that don't like to spend tons of money and they are not your Large markets.
TRG
TRG
Not Me, I rather enjoy it ...
I thought you might like that. :biggrin
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Wireless Joey 4. Yesterday, I noticed a little green dot on a small black field in the upper right hand corner of the screen, regardless of channel, recordings, etc. A restart got rid of it, but I am curious as to what It meant and what I did to get it there.
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Redneck_Randy
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The little green dot inside a small black field in the upper right-hand corner of your screen is an Android privacy indicator confirming that the voice remote's microphone is actively listening. Because the Joey 4 runs on an Android
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That's no good
Almighty1
The green dot on Android TV is supposed to show as long as an app or background service is actively using the microphone or camera. [1, 2]

What Normal Behavior Looks Like
    • When active: It appears (often with a small microphone or camera icon that fades into a simple green dot) the moment a voice search, assistant command, or streaming app requests audio input.
    • When it disappears: It should vanish a few seconds after you finish your command or after the app stops using the microphone. [1]

Why It Might Stay On (Persistent Dot)
If the green dot stays on indefinitely or won't go away, it usually means:
    • An app (such as a voice search tool, media player, or background utility) has a hung process or is keeping the microphone channel open.
    • A remote control or voice-recognition service is stuck. [1]

How to Fix or Check It
    • Restart your TV: Unplug the power cable for about 30 seconds and plug it back in to clear out stuck background apps.
    • Check app permissions: Go to your TV's Settings > Privacy or Device Preferences > Microphone to see which apps have access, and revoke permission for any suspicious or unnecessary apps. [1, 2]
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Scott Greczkowski
Its a bug. I had it happen to mine. The mic is not listening, and if your worried about that remove the batteries from your remote as thats where the mic is. :)
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Reboot the joey it should go away after
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