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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Feb 7, 2005 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

From Dish - PSIP Information

Many users have been experiencing problems tuning various OTA channels recently with the 811 receiver. The most commonly reported problems have been seeing a screen alternating between video and black with the info banner popping up, and channels moving around in the guide.

The 811 receiver is a more intelligent OTA receiver than most that are currently on the market. It continuously monitors the PSIP stream from the local broadcaster in order to automatically adjust for changes made in the programming stream by the broadcasters. An example includes adding a temporary subchannel for special event situations. Most receivers would have no idea a subchannel was added because they parse the PSIP stream only when first tuned to a channel, and would only know of its existence in most cases if channels were rescanned or if the channel was tuned away and then back.

But, when broadcasters have errors in their PSIP stream (which up until February 1st compliance with ATSC PSIP stream standards is completely voluntary), those errors can cause the 811 to attempt to process the changes and appear to fail due to the bad data. The solution to this is not to "dumb down" the 811, but to work with each broadcaster to ensure that they are broadcasting a data stream that is in compliance with the soon-to-be-enforced standards. To this end, Dish Network has been in contact with multiple station engineers around the country offering assistance with monitoring their broadcast streams and with working out the errors that they are inadvertently introducing into their broadcasts.

On February 1st, the FCC will begin enforcing the standards as presented in the ATSC A/65B standard. Dish Network is committed to offering assistance to aid in the transition to full PSIP compliance.

The above was taken from DBSTalk.

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WeeJavaDude

Feb 4, 2005

The Big Wood said:
The hardware could stay the same, but most likely it is a software change on one of the chips. I'm not sure of the design of the 811, but most complex boards that we build (I work for an electronics contract manufacturer) have many programmed IC's on them. Some can be flashed and changed without removing, others have to be removed from the board to be reprogrammed. Being one of the first 811's out, I'm sure some changes have been made. One of our customers (a large, well known company) has been making changes every few months to a product that started selling 6 years ago.

Well that is possible. However based on what PSIP is I would be suprised that it would be something on a chip. PSIP seems like a higher level protocal that software in the image would be handling. Yes my current project I am working on has a number of embedded programmable chips including and FPGA. I just don't see the PSIP processing logic being embedded in the chips.

Strange an 811 swap fixed the issue, but the important thing is the 811 is up and running for the SB. Seeing the SB in HD rocks!!

tvaddict

Feb 4, 2005

Same problem with 811

I also live in the Atlanta area and have used the OTA for WAGA and WSB for months. Since Monday I have not been able to view OTA. The screen will freeze and the 811 will reboot after about 3 minutes viewing. I have deleted and rescanned, soft booted, hard booted, reset to factory defaults numerous times and as of last night, it still does not work. I called support on Tuesday and they told me they had not seen this problem so they are sending a different 811. I hope this arrives today and works or I will be viewing the Superbowl in SD.

fotto

Feb 4, 2005

Cleveland problem solved

for the Cleveland posts.....

I just spoke with Fox 8 (WJW) engineering in Cleveland, OH (I had the same problem on both of my 811's). Station engineer said they were made aware of the problem this morning and it's now fixed.

noremac

Feb 4, 2005

I'm having lots of PSIP problems with WTTG-DT (RF36 in WashDC) with my Dish 6000. The channel will intially map correctly to 5-1, but soon "forgets" this, and can only be tuned via 36-1. In all cases, the receiver takes about 10 seconds to go from black screen to a picture. Ironically, their PSIP settings prior to Feb 1 were working fine with the 6000.

Anyone else in DC? What's the best way to report this problem to Dish?

cpdretired

Feb 7, 2005

The PSIP problems have been resolved with WTTW Chicago. Sit back and enjoy all that great PBS HD programming.

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dishstaller

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Last reply 1 minute ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

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dishstaller

Today at 5:34 PM

If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.

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Scott Greczkowski

3 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!

satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.

Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!

Scott Greczkowski

1 minute ago

Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working.

osu1991

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Last reply 14 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.

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b4pjoe

Today at 3:49 PM

osu1991 said:
Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?

vazhog

Today at 4:05 PM

that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

osu1991

Today at 4:28 PM

b4pjoe said:
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?

Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.

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meStevo

Today at 4:52 PM

vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.

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dishstaller

Today at 5:05 PM

meStevo said:
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."

That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

- California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
- Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
- Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
- New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
- Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
- Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
- Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

meStevo

Today at 5:55 PM

dishstaller said:
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]

Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]

Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]

New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]

Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]

Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]

Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.

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vazhog

14 minutes ago

The feds give money to the states for them to use - Cutting the fed funding only means the taxpayer savings will passed onto the states that need to make up the Fed dollars cut -See the list above for those states affected

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dfergie said:
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