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Hello all ,I have a starter question for the installers out there.
We have a new client that is moving from Canada to the Phoenix Valley.I have a Birddog and experience installing Satelite for Dish and Direct.HDDRS 605 is the model of the receivers we will be using.This tells me that its an HD receiver which my experience tells me the dish settings will be more finicky to hone in.
Now once I get the dish,I can lend more info on the dish type.But for starters, Is this something I can install using my birddog or does it require a different meter?
Thank you for your patience.
We have a new client that is moving from Canada to the Phoenix Valley.I have a Birddog and experience installing Satelite for Dish and Direct.HDDRS 605 is the model of the receivers we will be using.This tells me that its an HD receiver which my experience tells me the dish settings will be more finicky to hone in.
Now once I get the dish,I can lend more info on the dish type.But for starters, Is this something I can install using my birddog or does it require a different meter?
Thank you for your patience.
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welcome 
Shaw Direct uses KU Band at 107.3W & 111.1W
107.3 is the "main" satellite
111.1 is the HD and French satellite...if the customer has the oval dish you aim at this satellite.
The birddog will work just fine. You just have to set it up to see 111.1 Check frequencies at Lyngsat.com and just make sure if the customer has the "quad" LNB (see pic below) set the meter to 22k burst "ON". While the 605 is a HD receiver, the frequencies being KU are kinda forgiving...not as forgiving as Dish but not as finite movements as Directv KA Band
If you've ever aimed a free to air dish (30" or larger) for international channels or Glorystar (religious channels) then Shaw will be a breeze. It works the same way
oh in pic 2 the LNB to the left of the piece of wood was for 119W
Shaw Direct uses KU Band at 107.3W & 111.1W
107.3 is the "main" satellite
111.1 is the HD and French satellite...if the customer has the oval dish you aim at this satellite.
The birddog will work just fine. You just have to set it up to see 111.1 Check frequencies at Lyngsat.com and just make sure if the customer has the "quad" LNB (see pic below) set the meter to 22k burst "ON". While the 605 is a HD receiver, the frequencies being KU are kinda forgiving...not as forgiving as Dish but not as finite movements as Directv KA Band
If you've ever aimed a free to air dish (30" or larger) for international channels or Glorystar (religious channels) then Shaw will be a breeze. It works the same way
oh in pic 2 the LNB to the left of the piece of wood was for 119W
J
I am not an installer, but I do live in the Phoenix area.
Your client should obtain a 75e elliptical dish ("oval", per Iceberg's post) and quad LNB (the current setup offered by Shaw) for use in Phoenix. The smaller dish that Shaw offers (the 60e) may not be large enough to provide a reliable signal in marginal weather (which doesn't happen often here). The quad LNB for the 75e is as pictured in Iceberg's post (without the wood and the second LNB
). Note that the LNB must be matched to the dish, i.e., the 75e dish requires a 75e LNB. The LNB number is printed on the back of the case.
Even with the 75e, signal may be lost briefly in a very heavy rain shower, but not in moderate rain.
I have installed my own dish on 2 occasions at different residences in the Valley. It's a breeze, even if you only use the meter that is built into the receiver. A graphic of the pointing azimuth can be obtained from Dishpointer.com, but is also 178 True or 166.8 Magnetic at my most recent install. For starters the elevation should be set at 50.8 and the skew at 88.3 (again, figures are at my location). The receiver does not need to have been activated to use the built-in meter. It is recommended that you set the receiver to channel 299 for pointing the dish. The signal meter is found at Options 6-4-3-1 on the most-recent receiver models. Enter "4128" in the EMM Provider Box; once entered, a green box indicates that you are indeed on the correct satellites. The satellite number on this screen should then read "A4"
Once the signal has been found and the signal level optimized on 299 (mine runs in the 70's most of the time), the receiver can be activated by Shaw and then you can fine-tune the signal using the EcbNo's for a channel from each of the 2 satellites, e.g. 299 and 701. The location of the EcbNo screen will depend on the model of the receiver that your client has.
Let us know how it goes.....
Your client should obtain a 75e elliptical dish ("oval", per Iceberg's post) and quad LNB (the current setup offered by Shaw) for use in Phoenix. The smaller dish that Shaw offers (the 60e) may not be large enough to provide a reliable signal in marginal weather (which doesn't happen often here). The quad LNB for the 75e is as pictured in Iceberg's post (without the wood and the second LNB
). Note that the LNB must be matched to the dish, i.e., the 75e dish requires a 75e LNB. The LNB number is printed on the back of the case.Even with the 75e, signal may be lost briefly in a very heavy rain shower, but not in moderate rain.
I have installed my own dish on 2 occasions at different residences in the Valley. It's a breeze, even if you only use the meter that is built into the receiver. A graphic of the pointing azimuth can be obtained from Dishpointer.com, but is also 178 True or 166.8 Magnetic at my most recent install. For starters the elevation should be set at 50.8 and the skew at 88.3 (again, figures are at my location). The receiver does not need to have been activated to use the built-in meter. It is recommended that you set the receiver to channel 299 for pointing the dish. The signal meter is found at Options 6-4-3-1 on the most-recent receiver models. Enter "4128" in the EMM Provider Box; once entered, a green box indicates that you are indeed on the correct satellites. The satellite number on this screen should then read "A4"
Once the signal has been found and the signal level optimized on 299 (mine runs in the 70's most of the time), the receiver can be activated by Shaw and then you can fine-tune the signal using the EcbNo's for a channel from each of the 2 satellites, e.g. 299 and 701. The location of the EcbNo screen will depend on the model of the receiver that your client has.
Let us know how it goes.....
Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
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To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit )
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.
. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.
. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.