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Looking to switch from DirecTV to Dish and need advice

What is the least commitment we are going to have to make?
Where is the best place to get the best deal on Dish?
Should we wait for a better deal, or is now the best time to switch?
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Thanks everyone! Should I expect to pay for the DVR or is it included in the price? How much do they run? I have an HD TV and an old non HD that I want hooked up. Right now we have non-HD DirecTV on both. Is VOD extra?
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jashobeam said:
Thanks everyone! Should I expect to pay for the DVR or is it included in the price? How much do they run? I have an HD TV and an old non HD that I want hooked up. Right now we have non-HD DirecTV on both. Is VOD extra?
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DVR is included at no extra cost except for the VIP 922 which costs $200 upfront. However, everybody here recommends the VIP722k as Dish's best DVR. There is a monthly DVR service fee of $6/month unless you do decide to get the 922 in which case it's $10/month. You would only need one DVR because it has two tuners (1 HD and 1 SD) And Finally, VOD does cost extra ($6.99 for HD rental)
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You would only need one DVR because it has two tuners (1 HD and 1 SD) And Finally, VOD does cost extra ($6.99 for HD rental)
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Note.. the 722k has two tuners both HD, the *outputs* are HD for TV1 (1 HDMI, 1 Component, and 1 SD Composite output sets), and SD for TV2, with the SD being available as standard coax cable out and RCA V/L+R out (composite out).

Many VOD itemss are at an additional fee, with SD to HD offerings from 99 cents up to $6.99 for a full length movie. There are very few VOD items available free of charge, most of a negligible value ... some 5 minute videos related to travel & destinations, there is a preview up there for something about Tron Legacy or the making of, etc.. but most aren't worth the cost in $ or time to get access to. Much of the VOD offering for TV shows & Movies at higher bit rates either take too long to download (or need to be started and then you come back later) or are so very slow in overall download speed that it frustrates many people.

Dish is also working on their "DishOnline.Com" offering which is similar to Hulu, and appears to try to offer content that mirrors your available programming.

And lastly ... with the 722k, it is one of the receivers capable of supporting the SlingAdapter (99 dollars on dish's site) with it, in working order, you get an option to watch anything on your 722k anywhere you have high speed internet. It works sufficiently that 99 isn't a bad upgrade option. The 99 dollars is currently a one time fee, the adapter takes over "TV2" when in use, and there is currently no per monthly cost to using Dish's apps for the slingadapter (SlingAdapter as opposed to a full utility Sling Box, whis is a one time purchase, but currently requires a monthly fee to maintain web access for them, again the full SlingBox not SlingAdapter)

Oh and one more thing ... the 722k has a module bay, which allows you to purchase and install an OTA (over the air) module that you could attach to an old fashioned arial, to receive broadcast TV independently of "Locals" from the Satellite. With one of those OTA Modules, you can then record upto 4 stations at once (2 Satellites, 2 OTA)

Of the biggest drawbacks of the 722k ... currently only use 500G hard drives, so you get only 55hrs HD or 300+ hours of SD recording. You can hook up an External Hard Drive ("EHD") and move recordings ... but currently you can't record directly to the drive, you can play from the external drive though, and if you had two 722k's on your account, you could move the external hard drive from 722k to 722k.

I think that about covers all of it so far.. wish lists, are something else.. :)
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And lastly ... with the 722k, it is one of the receivers capable of supporting the SlingAdapter (99 dollars on dish's site) with it, in working order, you get an option to watch anything on your 722k anywhere you have high speed internet. It works sufficiently that 99 isn't a bad upgrade option. The 99 dollars is currently a one time fee, the adapter takes over "TV2" when in use, and there is currently no per monthly cost to using Dish's apps for the slingadapter (SlingAdapter as opposed to a full utility Sling Box, whis is a one time purchase, but currently requires a monthly fee to maintain web access for them, again the full SlingBox not SlingAdapter)
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You are mistaken on one thing here. The stand alone slingbox does NOT require a monthy fee to maintain web access. I have had one hooked up to my D* box for some time, and there is no fee associated with it aside from the upfront cost of the box.

If I misuderstood what you were saying I apologize.

Edit: after re reading it, it appears you are saying there is a monthly fee to maintain web access for a stand alone sling box if used with E*. Is this correct, and if so, why would they charge you for that?
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msmith198025 said:
You are mistaken on one thing here. The stand alone slingbox does NOT require a monthy fee to maintain web access. I have had one hooked up to my D* box for some time, and there is no fee associated with it aside from the upfront cost of the box.

If I misuderstood what you were saying I apologize.
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No ... you understood me the first time.. Its me that's mistaken.. its not a monthly fee with Sling Box ... but that you have to buy their mobile apps ... sorry about that confusion.. and maybe they will make them free too some day.. but an add on fee for stand alone apps.

Edit: I can't go up and correct my previous post, would if I could.
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No ... you understood me the first time.. Its me that's mistaken.. its not a monthly fee with Sling Box ... but that you have to buy their mobile apps ... sorry about that confusion.. and maybe they will make them free too some day.. but an add on fee for stand alone apps.

Edit: I can't go up and correct my previous post, would if I could.
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Ok, gotcha. Yes, the mobile sling player app is $30. It is higher than most apps on any marketplace, but even with the one time fee, I feel that it is worth it.
No biggie. Glad we got it straightened out.
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Ok, gotcha. Yes, the mobile sling player app is $30. It is higher than most apps on any marketplace, but even with the one time fee, I feel that it is worth it.
No biggie. Glad we got it straightened out.
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You can download the dish remote access app and it has the slingplayer built into it. An the price is free.
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hawker152 said:
You can download the dish remote access app and it has the slingplayer built into it. An the price is free.
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Yeah.. that's probably the way it will go free apps/free Dishplayer app integration/replacing sling's apps... since Dish (Echostar) owns Sling now.. The problem I have ... is wondering if Dish's slow to respond (or even acknowledge problems) pacing will deteriorate the Sling brand.
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Thank you everyone! You have really helped me!
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osu1991
osu1991
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USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
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Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
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that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
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The 2030s will likely bring renewed health reform
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Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
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Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.
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that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
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Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.
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meStevo said:
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."
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That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
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That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
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Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.
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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Can't You Hear Me Knocking - The Rolling Stones
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I Can Hear Music - The Beach Boys
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Boom Boom ( Out Go The Lights ) - Pat Travers
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Palisades Park - Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon
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Apple's New Touchscreen MacBook Pro with Tandem OLED Display

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Obg_1yMsldU


Direct YouTube Link - Apple's New Touchscreen MacBook Pro with Tandem OLED Display
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!
satelliteretailer.com satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Ep. 35 - Best Tech for a Deserted Island...

Time for another AWESOME video from Linus Tech Tips!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9st7OYkUHJk


Direct YouTube Link - Ep. 35 - Best Tech for a Deserted Island...
Linus on Facebook
The LTT Store
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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Auto Racing 2026

New thread or keep this one?

View: https://www.youtube.com/live/AgOI9DNCmPg?si=l-YcZmHl7GXXF8fX
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Weird F1 weekend is already over with a Saturday race.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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Cyberattacks Are Coming—Is Your Company Ready? #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4JfcPctpQmk


Direct YouTube Link - Cyberattacks Are Coming—Is Your Company Ready? #shorts
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· posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Looking for former DIRECTV Cutting Edge testers who have now subscribed to DIRECTV Stream.

If you are a former Cuttinge Edge member who has converted to Stream, please contact me.
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Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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slow_poke_pete said:
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713
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I have a Hopper Plus and no issues either. charlesrshell has both a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and one without, he doesn't have the same issue. Before blaming it on the Hopper Plus, he should see if the problem still exists without the Hopper Plus connected as it could be the Internet connection itself or some setting in the router itself. There is someone in another thread who has EHD issues on the Hopper 3 only setup but does not have the EHD issues on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and he has already tried swapping the EHD and it did not make a difference so like the saying, YMMV.
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slow_poke_pete said:
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!
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The Roku costs $$$, Hopper Plus is free. That may not be the only costs as it depends if the TV in question still has available HDMI ports and if not, it will require a HDMI switch and HDMI cable which adds more to the cost.

I have a LG 3D OLED Smart TV and I still need either of them because it does not have Android TV built in. Add a Hopper Plus and see if you actually have issues or not as until you actually tried it, it means nothing.
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