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I've been an "Americas Everything" Dish customer for about 5 years now. No complaints. I used to have a 625 and I've had a 722 for a couple of years. I've never had any problems with either receiver. In December, after over a year of flawless service, the hard drive failed on the 722. I called Dish, no problem, three days later I had a refurb 722 replacement.

About a week after setting up the "new" 722, I came home from work to find the 722 in some sort of reboot cycle. Powered up the TV, nothing from the 722. On the 722, the green power light would come on for 20 seconds, then it would shut off, then the fans would kick on high for about 10 seconds, then spin down. I could hear the HD in the 722 churning and making noise. Then it would be quiet for 10 minutes, then the green light would come on again for 20 seconds, and the cycle would repeat, apparently forever. When I hit the power button on the 722, after about 30 seconds it did power up as normal, but it had to do the "acquiring satellite signal" thing for a minute or two. Then it works as normal.

I didn't think much of it, until it happened again a few days later. This time, we realized that it had missed recording a couple of shows that it should have recorded during the overnight hours. Same cycle; hitting the power button brings it back to life, though often with "No Data" for all of the program guide until I force a check switch. Again, I thought maybe it was fluke, so we sort of ignored it. Happened again a few days later. The final straw, we were out of town one weekend and came back to find it rebooting and having missed the entire weekend's worth of shows that it was supposed to record. Nice. :rolleyes:

At that point I called Dish. We went through some troubleshooting procedures; checked some codes, signal strength fine, plugged into a surge vs. wall, reset, etc. They found nothing wrong, but they sent out another 722 after I explained to them that it really wasn't acceptable to have a DVR that misses programs because it's in a reboot loop.

The second replacement 722 does the exact same thing the day after I got it. I called again. Went through all of this troubleshooting, again, and got another replacement 722. And a curious anecdote about the second, when I was standing in line at the FedEX depot to return it to Dish, another guy walked in with a 722 boxed up and ready to go back. We chatted for a minute, his is doing the same thing. WTF! The woman behind the counter at FedEx overheard us and said, "oh yeah, we see 10-15 of those a week going back to Dish." Sweet . :rolleyes:

The third 722 seemed better for a couple of weeks. I thought the problem had gone away. Then about two weeks ago it started doing the same reboot thing. AGAIN. :mad: And now it's doing it almost every day.

It seems to go into this reboot loop sometime overnight when it does it's data check, and then just can't somehow recover unless a user intervenes to power it up. It's ok in the fact that it will come back to life (albeit often with no guide data until I force the check switch to refresh it), but it's missing shows that it should be recording.

So does anyone have any ideas of what I should do? I'm about at my wits end. I'm really just about ready to call DirecTV, as this just isn't acceptable and Dish seems to have no answers on how to resolve it. Should I call and demand an ugprade to a 722K? Or pay the difference and get a 922? Could there be something wrong with the LNB's that a tech needs to inspect? I just want a working 722 again, like the first one that was fine until its HD died...

Thanks for whatever advice you can provide!
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I'm following you and agree.

The information I gathered to reply on this thread was from a DISH trainer about a year ago. He was showing me different frequencies per transponder on different satellite orbitals and we clearly saw stronger frequencies in some of the 129 orbitals on a satellite meter. That information I provided, then, may be outdated or changed in some way. Or the trainer may not have known what he was really talking about at the time lol.

It made sense to me, however, because of many problems people were having with their SD to HD transition. The ending to the overall story is that the cable was causing these reboots despite all the other "obvious" issues that COULD have been causing the problem. Techs usually do not like to replace cable and save it for a last resort due to how time consuming it can be and also because the next cable run may have to be ran along the exterior siding instead of internal.
SaltiDawg
I'm following you and agree.

.... Techs usually do not like to replace cable and save it for a last resort due to how time consuming it can be and also because the next cable run may have to be ran along the exterior siding instead of internal.
Also, except possibly to use a recepticle power checker, the Tech likely would not be able to address electric power issues either.
harshness
He was showing me different frequencies per transponder on different satellite orbitals and we clearly saw stronger frequencies in some of the 129 orbitals on a satellite meter. That information I provided, then, may be outdated or changed in some way.
The information wasn't wrong, just the way it was interpreted. Satellite signal strength has little to do with what goes to the receiver. The LNB converts what it sees to the lower frequencies and retransmits it down the cable. The signal strength is whatever the LNB amplifier puts out.
It made sense to me, however, because of many problems people were having with their SD to HD transition. The ending to the overall story is that the cable was causing these reboots despite all the other "obvious" issues that COULD have been causing the problem.
The EA and WA LNB assemblies probably take more power to run so if the cable is compromised, it probably heats up faster and starves out the LNB assembly.
TheKrell
Just to clarify what harshness has said, the DP LNBs and switches are bandstacked and do indeed go out to around 2GHz, whereas legacy equipment only went out to... Ah... From about 1GHz to about 1.5GHz. The "Plus" part uses exactly the same bandstacked technology and exactly the same frequencies as DishPro not-Plus, namely about 1GHz to about 2GHz, so no change there. If somewhathelpful's somewhat helpful tech was replacing a legacy installation with a DishPro or Pro-Plus installation, then everything he said about low-frequency barrels or damaged cable is true. If instead he just swapped out a DPP twin for a DPP 1000.2, then there is actually no change to the IF at all and the tech's frequency argument is a red herring.
whatchel1
IF on sat has been 950 to 2150 for years. So why would anyone put in something that doesn't pass 2 Ghz ?
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow
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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.
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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...
Titanium
Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
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k4otl
To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit :) )
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Give A Little Bit - Supertramp
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Little Wing - Jimi Hendrix
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With A Little Luck - Wings
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LITTLE Willy-Sweet
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Little Deuce Coupe - The Beach Boys
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Foxbat
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:

Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
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Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

:popcorn
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dishstaller
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
🤣

Oh....you were serious
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teachsac
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Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.
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I like Zyra from La Brea (one with the prosthetic).
dfergie
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
long_time_Dish
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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