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I realize this is slightly OT, but since many folks rely on VOOM for their OTA/local HD, it's still in the ballpark, and not good news.

http://www.reuters.co.in/locales/c_...rtainmentNews&localeKey=en_IN&storyID=7533397

Among other tidbits in there:

"Lombardo said Walt Disney Co.'s ABC television network has already pulled back on its plans for its ABC News Now channel and the same could happen to a weather station offered by General Electric Co.'s NBC Universal unit.

"I find it ironic that two fledgling opportunities that were being developed with digital spectrum are really in serious trouble now," he said"

Lob
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Mandatory requirements will most likely go into effect 2006 with existing regulation. Until then, many stations, even though they may be operating presently on a digital frequency, may be moving to a more efficient digital frequency. Hence, no expedient need to capture OTA digital transmissions and provide on cable or DBS for that matter.

i.e.: KVIE and KXTV in the Sacramento market, both current digital stations, intend to be reassigned frequencies in the near future.

Q Would it be advisable for cable to provide local DT, now?

A: Purely from a marketing perspective, yes.


Q: Should cable presently be mandated to carry DT?

A: Not at this time given the potential for some stations moving to new frequencies and the additional hardware required for capture.


Q: Do I think cable should carry DT?

A: Yes.
vurbano
Lobstah said:
I realize this is slightly OT, but since many folks rely on VOOM for their OTA/local HD, it's still in the ballpark, and not good news.

http://www.reuters.co.in/locales/c_newsArticle.jsp?type=entertainmentNews&localeKey=en_IN&storyID=7533397

Among other tidbits in there:

"Lombardo said Walt Disney Co.'s ABC television network has already pulled back on its plans for its ABC News Now channel and the same could happen to a weather station offered by General Electric Co.'s NBC Universal unit.

"I find it ironic that two fledgling opportunities that were being developed with digital spectrum are really in serious trouble now," he said"

Lob

Old news. OTA is not in trouble but multicasting maybe thank goodness. And there is a vote on Feb 10th by the FCC which is predicted to go against the must carry rule for cable. After that, cable companies may carry many more local HD channels since they wont have to carry the subchannels and serverely hurt the satellite business IMO. The cable companies have been fighting with local affiliates over not carrying subchannels and the affiliates have been refusing to let them carry their HD channel without them. Hopefully this vote will influence the affiliates to play ball.
vurbano
bradley said:
Mandatory requirements will most likely go into effect 2006 with existing regulation. Until then, many stations, even though they may be operating presently on a digital frequency, may be moving to a more efficient digital frequency. Hence, no expedient need to capture OTA digital transmissions and provide on cable or DBS for that matter.

i.e.: KVIE and KXTV in the Sacramento market, both current digital stations, intend to be reassigned frequencies in the near future.

Q Would it be advisable for cable to provide local DT, now?

A: Purely from a marketing perspective, yes.


Q: Should cable presently be mandated to carry DT?

A: Not at this time given the potential for some stations moving to new frequencies and the additional hardware required for capture.


Q: Do I think cable should carry DT?

A: Yes.

Omg NO!!!!!!!!! everyone of these weather radars, weather stations and shopping channels is cut from precious bandwidth reducing the quality of the HD channel. If this sh*t grows HD will be GONE and you will be watching EDTV, which is what the broadcasters would LOVE!!!! Rplace the HD channel with 6 little SD money makers and screw the HD crowd.

Cable should stick to their guns. Only offer to carry the HD channel. Wait for the analog shut off date to approach at which time the Affiliates will FOLD and gladly let cable carry only the HD channel when faced with no carriage of thier signal at all.
vurbano
FCC to Hammer the NAB?
Cable Might NAB a Win
By Ted Hearn Multichannel.com2/7/2005
Washington— Barring a major script change, the Federal Communications Commission is about to hand the National Association of Broadcasters its biggest policy defeat in years, a setback cemented by last week's announcement of a long-term digital carriage deal between cable and public broadcasters. Broadcasters have been lobbying the FCC for seven years in a quest to secure mandatory cable carriage of every digital-TV service they provide free to their over-the-air viewers.

While limited to one signal in an analog world, broadcasters can use their digital capacity to pump out five or six programming services, potentially converting stations in each market into multichannel rivals to cable and satellite. But broadcasters argue that multicasting for the benefit of viewers who don't use pay TV is a digital pipe dream, if those services can't reach cable's mass subscriber base.

The FCC is scheduled to vote Feb. 10 to reject so-called multicast must-carry and retain the current policy of requiring cable carriage of just one digital programming service per station. Carriage of multiple signals would be subject to negotiation, which so far has produced DTV carriage of more than 500 stations.

The FCC majority is expected to include chairman Powell and Republican commissioner Kathleen Abernathy. The all-important third vote is expected to come from Democrat Jonathan Adelstein, whom cable helped get re-confirmed late last year, when his FCC career was just days away from oblivion. An FCC source last week said that agency officials told the National Cable & Telecommunications Association more than a year ago that any hope of securing Adelstein's decisive vote was contingent upon completion of a carriage deal with public-TV stations, owing to Adelstein's concern about the fate of 350 public-TV stations in an uncertain digital world....

...An FCC source said the NAB's imminent defeat was not so much the result of clever cable lobbying but the inability of NAB to seize two opportunities to win the battle.

The source said NAB could have received the necessary three votes — probably Martin, Adelstein and Democrat Michael Copps — had the trade group been willing to commit to concrete public-interest obligations in exchange for multicasting mandates. NAB refused, the source said.

The NAB would have also been able to secure multicasting had it agreed to return all analog TV spectrum no later than Dec. 31, 2008, under an FCC plan developed by Media Bureau chief Kenneth Ferree. It balked, the source said.
vurbano
Cable/Satellite Might NAB a Win
By Ted Hearn Multichannel.com2/7/2005
Washington— Barring a major script change, the Federal Communications Commission is about to hand the National Association of Broadcasters its biggest policy defeat in years, a setback cemented by last week's announcement of a long-term digital carriage deal between cable and public broadcasters. Broadcasters have been lobbying the FCC for seven years in a quest to secure mandatory cable carriage of every digital-TV service they provide free to their over-the-air viewers.

While limited to one signal in an analog world, broadcasters can use their digital capacity to pump out five or six programming services, potentially converting stations in each market into multichannel rivals to cable and satellite. But broadcasters argue that multicasting for the benefit of viewers who don't use pay TV is a digital pipe dream, if those services can't reach cable's mass subscriber base.

The FCC is scheduled to vote Feb. 10 to reject so-called multicast must-carry and retain the current policy of requiring cable carriage of just one digital programming service per station. Carriage of multiple signals would be subject to negotiation, which so far has produced DTV carriage of more than 500 stations.

The FCC majority is expected to include chairman Powell and Republican commissioner Kathleen Abernathy. The all-important third vote is expected to come from Democrat Jonathan Adelstein, whom cable helped get re-confirmed late last year, when his FCC career was just days away from oblivion. An FCC source last week said that agency officials told the National Cable & Telecommunications Association more than a year ago that any hope of securing Adelstein's decisive vote was contingent upon completion of a carriage deal with public-TV stations, owing to Adelstein's concern about the fate of 350 public-TV stations in an uncertain digital world.

KEY PIECES PLACED

Over the last few months, key pieces fell into place. The Bush White House gave Adelstein five more years at the FCC; Powell promised to schedule the vote; and cable and public broadcasters dusted off a carriage deal that some said had been ready to go for months. Under the NCTA-APTS deal, cable operators agreed to carry all analog signals during the transition, plus up to four digital-multicast services provided by a single station in the market — most likely the most widely viewed one.

After the transition, when analog spectrum has been returned, cable operators will carry up to four digital multicast services from each public station in a market. The agreement, however, calls for dropping multicast services if they duplicate services from other stations, a concession to cable's interest in husbanding bandwidth. Yet public stations that surrender their analog signals before the formal end of the transition may exercise their multicast-carriage rights at that point.

The 10-year agreement includes the NCTA, the Association of Public Television Stations and the Public Broadcasting Service. The boards of the NCTA, APTS and PBS have already approved the deal, a cable-industry source said Friday morning. But MSOs serving 80% of cable subscribers and public stations reaching 80% of TV households must still ratify the pact. Cable operators are to begin complying with the transition rules within 180 days of final approval.

"I'm confident our industry will support this agreement," said NCTA president Robert Sachs. Added APTS president John Lawson, "This is a fair agreement for all parties, and I am confident our members will approve it by large majorities."

COMMERCIAL-PUBLIC SPLIT

Cable's carriage deal with public stations drove a wedge between commercial and public TV stations. Although the NAB continued to push for mandatory multicast carriage at the FCC, APTS gave up working with NAB insofar as cable is concerned.

"As of today, we cease all advocacy on that question, one way or another," Lawson said, adding he would continue to fight for mandated multicast carriage on direct-broadcast satellite.

To avert disaster at the FCC, broadcasters have the option of withdrawing their multicast petitions. But that would preserve the status quo established in 2001, when the FCC ruled that DTV stations were entitled to carriage of a single service after yielding their analog spectrum. By stopping a vote now, broadcasters would likely be able to revive multicasting under an FCC headed by a new chairman. Powell will leave the agency in March.

Even though Adelstein has been known to change his mind at the last minute, Powell was confident last week that Adelstein will supply the third vote to kill mandatory multicasting, an FCC source said.

BIG PHOTO OP

Adelstein's endgame role in a political drama that has played out since 1998 was illustrated by his appearance at the National Press Building press conference where Sachs and Lawson unveiled their deal last Monday. Usually, Powell would have been the one to bless such an important development. But Powell decided to let Adelstein reap the glory.

"This is a landmark and forward-thinking deal. It's a win-win-win for the cable industry, for public TV, and for the American viewing public," Adelstein said. "That's how Washington should work."

Adelstein left immediately, refusing to take questions and brushing off reporters who followed him to the elevator. In the past, the NAB was the one to praise how Washington works. But sensing defeat at the FCC, it launched a counteroffensive designed not to pull Adelstein away from cable's camp, but to pull the multicast vote from the commission's agenda.

Belo Corp. and 650 station affiliates of ABC, CBS and NBC urged the FCC to postpone the vote, claiming the agency was dealing with the DTV transition piecemeal, while Congress planned to consider a major policy overhaul in the months ahead. The broadcasters' most aggressive move was a letter sent to President Bush last Wednesday from National Religious Broadcasters president Frank Wright asking for postponement.
Given Powell's decision to leave the FCC in a few weeks, Wright told Bush, "It would seem exceedingly appropriate to wait and resolve this issue after you have selected the new chairman."

FCC member Kevin Martin, a Republican Bush appointee, is in the running for the chairmanship. He is considered supportive of broadcasters' cable-carriage goals.

POWELL 'RUSHING'

In remarks in Washington last week, Philip Lombardo, CEO of Citadel Communications Co. and Joint Board chairman of the National Association of Broadcasters, accused Powell of rushing the vote.

"It's unfortunate that chairman Powell has decided to push an item as he's walking out the door," Lombardo told the Media Institute, a First Amendment organization funded by various media companies. "I would hope that either [Powell] would reconsider, or that a number of commissioners would think that makes a lot of sense."

An FCC source said Powell is moving ahead partly because Paxson Communications Corp., one of the largest TV station owners in the U.S., has asked a federal court to force the agency to decide multicasting issues within 30 days. But Lombardo said the FCC was under no pressure to act.

Powell "has already responded to the court that he will get around to it. He didn't have to get to it this quick without any dialogue and without the ability to have other forces provide their thoughts on the matter," Lombardo said.

An FCC source said the NAB's imminent defeat was not so much the result of clever cable lobbying but the inability of NAB to seize two opportunities to win the battle.

The source said NAB could have received the necessary three votes — probably Martin, Adelstein and Democrat Michael Copps — had the trade group been willing to commit to concrete public-interest obligations in exchange for multicasting mandates. NAB refused, the source said.

The NAB would have also been able to secure multicasting had it agreed to return all analog TV spectrum no later than Dec. 31, 2008, under an FCC plan developed by Media Bureau chief Kenneth Ferree. It balked, the source said.
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
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I like the new look, it's a lot cleaner. I'm using it on one of those Onn streaming devices when I travel.
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
S
Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
ncted
ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade
No. Makes me wonder if that is Apple or the carrier. I am on pre-paid, so I never get "an upgrade." I still have my old iPhone 11 Pro as a second line, and it runs iOS 27 just fine. My iPhone Air, which is still a current model, doesn't really seem that much faster in regular use. It is better in other ways, and worse in some ways than the 11 Pro (size), but performance really isn't a big differentiator, especially since I replaced the battery in the 11 Pro. If I had gotten enough storage when I originally bought the 11 Pro, it could still be my primary device with no issues.
ncted
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
Yeah, they boot up a bit slower than Roku, but the OS does a lot more, so it makes sense. How often are you booting them up that is a differentiator? Aside from OS updates, mine are on all the time. I will say the ATV4K is generally quicker than the Roku Ultras I have, when it comes to launching apps and responsiveness, not that the Roku is sluggish.
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apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while

What software? For iPhones? I tried to buy some image s/w IN THE APPLE STORE! They had none, and could not offer ANY s/w for iPhones
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.