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Last reply Feb 10, 2005 · posted in Old YAHOOGROUPS - VOOM! Archives

[VOOM] Voom thoughts

Wilt, or anyone from Voom that is willing to hear some ideas:

I understand that some decision makers at Voom have a cable monopoly
background. However, as things stand, if Voom is considering keeping
things going, perhaps someone there is willing to entertain other
ideas than simply adding more and more channels...

1. Why no self installs. (DirecTV has self installs and seem to be
doing ok.)
2. Why make most users call Voom's support line to find out about the
little red button behind the front panel to modify the resolution
(1080i, 720p, 480p, 480i, auto). My installer obviously knew about it
since he left it at 480i and did not tell me. Since I had experienced
HD using DirecTV on the same display, I knew something was wrong. How
many are still at 480i because the "professional" installer wanted to
get on to the next job asap and just connected the svideo cable.
3. Missed installs. I have seen countless messages from users on this
and other sites were people take a wasted vacation day. Not a good way
to start a relationship? Perhaps self install option would give these
guys some competition.
4. Buggy receiver (and only one model). Is no one else interested in
manufacturing Voom receivers.
5. No DVR. I got my DirectTV HD Tivo in July, and cancelled Voom in
Sept. During the three months I had both, I watched DirecTv's few HD
channels 95%+ of the time. Having control of the viewing time is
extremely important for us with jobs and who value our time.

I would consider signing up again when:
1. Voom offers self install
2. HD DVR is available and working.

I would also suggest giving current users an incentive to tell friends
and family by offering referrals. (Say 1 month free VaVaVoom). I would
even install for friends and family if they offered say $50-$60. If
they did do something like that, perhaps they could deduct $10-$20
from that amount for every support call. Providing usefull manuals
and instructions would be easy and make this all possible.

Be proactive. Include useful manuals. Give the customers more detailed
info, then the support lines will not be busy with callers getting the
same basic support that could have been avoided if it was provided in
manuals/instruction sheets.

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Jeff Kraber

Feb 9, 2005

I will also do a double =93here, here=94 for snappingfish=92s comments! I =
love
the HD, but it is buggy and they are behind with no HD recorder. All of th=
e
things he mentions is 101% accurate. I am still dealing with a DVI issue
(after almost 2 =BD months) between the Voom box and my Sammy HL-P6163W whe=
re
the picture blinks out for 1-2 seconds (sound still audible) every couple
minutes or so and it=92s unusable. Components are ok but the colors with D=
VI
are much more realistic and balanced. I=92ve had the installers here sever=
al
times and most of them don=92t know as much about it as I do, and that=92s
scary! I am patient because I know the technology is still young and I
believe!!! But when installers come out just to push that red switch and NO=
T
tell you what they did =96the whole thing is short lived. The greatest thi=
ng
about America is that there=92s always a choice - So when my patience wears
out and if it doesn=92t get fixed I=92ll go somewhere else OR when Voom shu=
ts
down=85=85=85=85which ever comes first!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: snappingfish [mailto:snappingfish@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:17 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VOOM] Voom thoughts

Wilt, or anyone from Voom that is willing to hear some ideas:

I understand that some decision makers at Voom have a cable monopoly
background. However, as things stand, if Voom is considering keeping
things going, perhaps someone there is willing to entertain other
ideas than simply adding more and more channels...

1. Why no self installs. (DirecTV has self installs and seem to be
doing ok.)
2. Why make most users call Voom's support line to find out about the
little red button behind the front panel to modify the resolution
(1080i, 720p, 480p, 480i, auto). My installer obviously knew about it
since he left it at 480i and did not tell me. Since I had experienced
HD using DirecTV on the same display, I knew something was wrong. How
many are still at 480i because the "professional" installer wanted to
get on to the next job asap and just connected the svideo cable.
3. Missed installs. I have seen countless messages from users on this
and other sites were people take a wasted vacation day. Not a good way
to start a relationship? Perhaps self install option would give these
guys some competition.
4. Buggy receiver (and only one model). Is no one else interested in
manufacturing Voom receivers.
5. No DVR. I got my DirectTV HD Tivo in July, and cancelled Voom in
Sept. During the three months I had both, I watched DirecTv's few HD
channels 95%+ of the time. Having control of the viewing time is
extremely important for us with jobs and who value our time.

I would consider signing up again when:
1. Voom offers self install
2. HD DVR is available and working.

I would also suggest giving current users an incentive to tell friends
and family by offering referrals. (Say 1 month free VaVaVoom). I would
even install for friends and family if they offered say $50-$60. If
they did do something like that, perhaps they could deduct $10-$20
from that amount for every support call. Providing usefull manuals
and instructions would be easy and make this all possible.

Be proactive. Include useful manuals. Give the customers more detailed
info, then the support lines will not be busy with callers getting the
same basic support that could have been avoided if it was provided in
manuals/instruction sheets.

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jimpappana

Feb 10, 2005

[VOOM] Re: Voom thoughts

Regarding self installs.

My guess is that self install for the majority of the population
doesn't go any smoother than having an installer do it and ultimately
cost the satellite company about as much is manning support lines.

However, I'd have to say that if someone knocks themselves out doing
a self install, they're less likely to drop the service. Policy may
have actually had a reverse effect not considered.

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MorCowbell

Last reply 48 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?

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dishstaller

Tuesday at 9:42 PM

I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

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MorCowbell

Yesterday at 10:11 AM

Methinks you are wrong, Dishstaller - at least for what I see now..
I so wish that functionality was available ...

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n0qcu

Yesterday at 10:41 AM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:11 AM

n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.

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MorCowbell

48 minutes ago

You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."

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meStevo

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 52 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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HipKat

Tuesday at 4:27 PM

Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

HipKat said:
Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 12:14 PM

Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

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Yespage

Yesterday at 1:31 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

He wants to be Brady

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:14 PM

meStevo said:
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans

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gms49ers

52 minutes ago

The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 55 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Today at 1:19 AM

SpaceX Selects Qualcomm to Accelerate Starlink Mobile’s Nationwide 5G Network

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:17 AM

Why Boost Mobile isn't SpaceX's shortcut to an MVNO

Analysts say SpaceX can't simply inherit EchoStar's MVNO deals by acquiring Boost Mobile due to stringent change of control clauses.

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed

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Bruce

55 minutes ago

SpaceX boldly goes into 'huge' 5G network rollout with Qualcomm

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techristian

Last reply Today at 9:08 AM · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support

AMIKO Anyone watching IPTV on Amiko 4k s52 UHD ?

Anyone watching IPTV on Amiko 4k s52 UHD ?

I put a bunch of *.m3u files in the root of my USB KEY but Amiko won't try to play them?

No INSTRUCTIONS for this.

Dan

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