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andreny

Last reply May 2, 2011 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Signal strength issue - 1000.4 EA

Well, after fiddling around the last two weeks and not getting ahead, it's time to ask the pro. Previously, I had a Dish 500 (110/119) and a wing dish at 61.5. Everything had been going fine for years, hardly loosing signal even during bad weather. Was asked by DishNetwork to switch my wing to 129 as many others Dish customer were asked. I'm in Champlain, NY (12919) so decided to switch instead to a 1000.4 EA., as it would be almost impossible from my location to get 129 and also would be loosing my locals (which Dish. C.S. didn't realized). Got a 1000.4 installed by myself. I'm very at ease with this sort of thing being an older tech. when vacuum tubes were the thing. Ya, I know I'm old !!! Running into problem with signal strength on the 1000.4. If my memory serves me correctly, SS on my Dish 500 was in the 60-70 range while the wing was at 40-45. Now the best that I can get on the 72.7 is 50-53 while the 61.5 is very low, ranging from 0 to a max. of 35-38. To give you an idea, transp #16-17-20-21 are roughly at 30-34 while 15-18-19 ranges from 3 to 11, so obviously I'm getting a lost of signal window on certain channels. 77 is in the 40 but not concerned about it as I don't have any programming on that sat. Tried to cheat on the signal 72.7 to get a better SS on my 61.5 but too much cheating meant loosing some trans. on the 72.7. Wasn't sure if I had a defective or weak lnb, went back to my single wing dish and beamed it consecutively at all three sats. Numbers were higher as expected from a single but not by much. There's a line of trees roughly 50' away and 15-20' high, also low power (120-240) line, same distance. Did move the 1000.4 to beam in between trees but that hardly changed a thing. Same line of trees and power lines were also in play with my Dish 500 & wing dish without causing any problems. Two questions: first, can anyone tell me what kind of SS I should expect from my location with 1000.4, second if SS is at what it should be, any solution to my problem, bigger dish or two singles (don't need the 77). What I don't understand is the distance from my location to the EA is much shorter that the one to the 110-119 sat. but SS is weaker. Unless I'm doing something wrong !!! Any help is greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.

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Tampa8

Apr 28, 2011

If you mean the Dishpro Plus separator used to connect each of the two inputs, then no, one cable with the separator is the usual installation. I don't have any sage advice, other than perhaps start with 61.5, get it spot on with the highest numbers you can, then see where 72 is at, moving only enough to assure 72 has enough signal.

YourHero101

May 1, 2011

Make sure the skew on the dish is correct especially the EA try to call dish or local retailer get settings for dish or go to dishpointer.com and put in your location and it will give you the settings your dish needs to be at and for sig levels i would call local retailer or Local Dish office and find out what the min threshold for your sats are

n1wbd

May 1, 2011

This is a known issue in the Northeast with the EA dish. Lowest signals are on 77. I have the same original setup as you had and they "upgraded" me to EA dish and had problems with premature snow/rain fade. I have a tech out here 3 times since March and have even moved the dish in order to reach it to clean it off in a snowstorm. Like you I'm not happy they should have left well enough alone. My 110/119/61.5 setup ran fine for over 10yrs before the "upgrade"

andreny said:
Well, after fiddling around the last two weeks and not getting ahead, it's time to ask the pro. Previously, I had a Dish 500 (110/119) and a wing dish at 61.5. Everything had been going fine for years, hardly loosing signal even during bad weather. Was asked by DishNetwork to switch my wing to 129 as many others Dish customer were asked. I'm in Champlain, NY (12919) so decided to switch instead to a 1000.4 EA., as it would be almost impossible from my location to get 129 and also would be loosing my locals (which Dish. C.S. didn't realized). Got a 1000.4 installed by myself. I'm very at ease with this sort of thing being an older tech. when vacuum tubes were the thing. Ya, I know I'm old !!! Running into problem with signal strength on the 1000.4. If my memory serves me correctly, SS on my Dish 500 was in the 60-70 range while the wing was at 40-45. Now the best that I can get on the 72.7 is 50-53 while the 61.5 is very low, ranging from 0 to a max. of 35-38. To give you an idea, transp #16-17-20-21 are roughly at 30-34 while 15-18-19 ranges from 3 to 11, so obviously I'm getting a lost of signal window on certain channels. 77 is in the 40 but not concerned about it as I don't have any programming on that sat. Tried to cheat on the signal 72.7 to get a better SS on my 61.5 but too much cheating meant loosing some trans. on the 72.7. Wasn't sure if I had a defective or weak lnb, went back to my single wing dish and beamed it consecutively at all three sats. Numbers were higher as expected from a single but not by much. There's a line of trees roughly 50' away and 15-20' high, also low power (120-240) line, same distance. Did move the 1000.4 to beam in between trees but that hardly changed a thing. Same line of trees and power lines were also in play with my Dish 500 & wing dish without causing any problems. Two questions: first, can anyone tell me what kind of SS I should expect from my location with 1000.4, second if SS is at what it should be, any solution to my problem, bigger dish or two singles (don't need the 77). What I don't understand is the distance from my location to the EA is much shorter that the one to the 110-119 sat. but SS is weaker. Unless I'm doing something wrong !!! Any help is greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.

andreny

May 1, 2011

n1wbd said:
This is a known issue in the Northeast with the EA dish. Lowest signals are on 77. I have the same original setup as you had and they "upgraded" me to EA dish and had problems with premature snow/rain fade. I have a tech out here 3 times since March and have even moved the dish in order to reach it to clean it off in a snowstorm. Like you I'm not happy they should have left well enough alone. My 110/119/61.5 setup ran fine for over 10yrs before the "upgrade"

Glad

to know that I'm not the only one in this situation. Played around with the dish on Friday. I was a little bit less aggressive with the cheating on the 72.7. Moved it so it only went down 5-7 and got better SS on the 61.5. Also realized that some of the transponders on the 61.5 are spot beam, no wonder I was not getting any SS. So far so good, I haven't got any lost of signal window on certain channel, specially 170 ( on trans. 27) but last two days have been clear days. Will have to wait and see.

MikeD-C05

May 2, 2011

The 77 sat is the weakest link on the eastern arc for the entire country. It should be replaced this August when they launch the replacement sat. Then the strength should go up for everyone.

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Bruce

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Last reply 26 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

Traditional/Streaming Live TV Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2026 Edition

Comcast is the first to report, with a massive 274,000 loss in video subscribers.

In the 3Q of 2016, Comcast had 21.42 million video subscribers and was the #1 provider, now at 10.39 million and is the #3 Provider, YTTV is #2 ( who also surpassed DirecTV-8 Million and Dish-under 5 Million), Charter/Spectrum is #1.

Comcast Just Lost 274,000 TV Customers & 144,000 Internet Customers In Just Three Months | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation reported its third-quarter 2026 results on October 22, showing continued erosion in its domestic residential broadband internet and video customer bases as competitive pressures intensified across the connectivity market. The company recorded a net loss of 144,000 domestic...

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ncted

Yesterday at 12:06 PM

All my parents had to do to get a discount on Spectrum Internet is say the words "Verizon Home Internet," and they cut the price by $30/month.

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NYDutch

Yesterday at 12:38 PM

ncted said:
All my parents had to do to get a discount on Spectrum Internet is say the words "Verizon Home Internet," and they cut the price by $30/month.

I don't think they'll go below the current $30 price since it's part of a deal they have with the non- profit that owns the apartment building.

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ncted

Yesterday at 12:46 PM

NYDutch said:
I don't think they'll go below the current $30 price since it's part of a deal they have with the non- profit that owns the apartment building.

Yeah, I was just saying Spectrum suddenly wants to keep what customers they can.

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Tom Speer

Yesterday at 1:26 PM

Optimum, which bought up our previous cable company, Suddenlink (originally COX), replac ed all of their coax disdribution with Fiber several years ago. They ran new fiber links to the house, but installed RFOG (RF over glass) devices on the outside of the house, which makes the house coax system look like a cable system. They used DOCSIS modems and of course we had the same assymetric bandwidth of cable internet. When I called them a couple years ago, and said I had installed a connection to the local Fiber provideer, MetroNet, They panicked and offered me the 300 MBit "Fiber powered" cable service for $20 per month. They were bleeding customers. I cancelled my Metronet and went with the $20 deal for a year, even though I didn't like the old cable technology.

Then T-moble Fiber struck a deal with Metronet Fiber where T-mobile would take over the marketing, billing and customer relations for residential Customers. They offered a "Founders Deal" for 2 Gigabit service, symmetric speeds, for $70 per month for new customers. That included all taxes and fees and was guaranteed for 10 years. I couldn't resist. That deal is no longer offered, but I am set for 9 more years.

Now the successor to the old local telephone company, Brightspeed has also installed a modern Fiber system in the neighborhood, but won't be getting my business. But their Fiber technology is also superior to Optimums cable based system.

With Fiber competition, the cable companies are eventually doomed.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 4:26 PM

Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.

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savarese04

Today at 1:58 PM

Foxbat said:
Meanwhile, my neighbor 300' away has gigabit fiber, and I'm stuck with copper solutions.

similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.

ncted

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savarese04 said:
similar situation. almost every neighborhood around me has fiber, but our 3 block area. I called AT&T and was like, how hard is it to bring fiber over about 200 feet (I am closest to the folks with fiber and can see it on the poles from my front door); crickets and very frustrating.

"Business Intelligence" is more of an oxymoron than Military Intelligence.

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ewindowman

Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 32 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Bankruptcy - Business as Usual

Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th

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nelson61

Monday at 12:22 PM

Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 2:54 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

dish has new sats dtv does not

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renjy651

Yesterday at 6:37 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
dish has new sats dtv does not

Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 8:31 AM

renjy651 said:
What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?

NO.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 11:52 AM

renjy651 said:
Hate to say this no one is ordering Satellite TV. Both DISH and Direct no new customers.
After 25 years with centurylink DSL 80 speed i changed to Xfinity 300 speed for $50 wow lightning fast for streaming. Still have DISH 27 years with them. Americas 250 package for $103. What you think of superbox or vseebox for streaming is it legal?
Still dish is easy to operate and change channels. What will Charlie Ergen do with new super satellites with loosing customers with satellites and boost?

While I agree but dish just launched a new sat. That can be used as an asset for Elon. Maybe he will repurpose em for his cell service. And if he wants tv to. God knows why he would but I think he will get a great deal on the contracts in place and equipment!!! I could think of better things to spend my money on. And to be honest Elon has nothing to offer me have blazing fast internet and ill never buy an ev. The veesee box and the super box are illegal.

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AT&T, T-Mobile Are Reportedly Ready To Boot Boost Mobile If SpaceX Buys It

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dishstaller

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Last reply 56 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Color blind man sees full colors for first time at age 66

Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

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Bobby

Wednesday at 10:10 PM

dishstaller said:
Videos like this can make you appreciate the things we take for granted.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a2cgQidHQJI

That brought tears to my eyes.

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 10:12 PM

Bobby said:
That brought tears to my eyes.

Really...REALLY hate to do this to you Bobby, but....

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dishstaller

Wednesday at 10:15 PM

Okay....if you think you can take it....this one brought tears to my eyes when I first saw it and did again just now.

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dishstaller

Thursday at 11:32 PM

This came up in my suggestions probably because of the video I posted. I had NO idea exactly what being color blind actually was. Now I understand why that man was so blown away with seeing the trees......a lot of color blind people see green as brown, so grass, trees, etc all look brown.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i18_RngKJDQ

Juan

Today at 1:56 PM

Its a shame nobody told him orange was blue and red was purple etc etc etc

telstar_1

56 minutes ago

Often people who have organic vision or hearing activated as adults after never having had it cannot practically utilize it because their brains never developed the massive neural network needed to make sense of any of it.

Well, he sees in color, just differently. Can't he just enjoy that? My granny had anachromatic color blindness, meaning pretty much like a b&w tv

b4pjoe

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Last reply Today at 1:50 PM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Fox Is Buying Roku in $22 Billion Deal

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harshness

Jun 25, 2026

Given that Tubi is one of the hottest FAST services out there, I don't expect it to go anywhere. Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?

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Neutron

Yesterday at 3:04 PM

Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 3:06 PM

harshness said:
Building up intolerance for ads takes a while, and as long as the advertisers are willing to foot the bill, why not?

That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads :facepalm

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TRG

Yesterday at 9:50 PM

Neutron said:
Another reason I'm glad we are swapping or Rokus out for Apple TVs. I was already planning on ditching the Rokus earlier this year and had been waiting on Apple to announce the new one last month. Our Rokus have had issues the last year or so with freezing video and reboots, and one with an HDCP issue randomly.

Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.

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navychop

Yesterday at 10:36 PM

I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.

Jimbo

Today at 9:55 AM

TRG said:
Hmmm... I don't have any of those problems with my Roku devices. I have 3 of them.

I have the Roku's, 2 or 3, I just rarely use them ... I prefer the Google/Android Sony set up.

People tell me that the Apps on the TV will end thier usefulness as they age ... They are doing ok for me so far ... I also have the TV take the App Updates whenever possible ... then again, I don't know how often App updates come to it.

So, so far, I'm doing ok, but if they start to get sluggish, I'll eventually change to a Roku ... I don't want to, but eventually ... (Or buy another new TV :eeek

reubenray

Today at 12:50 PM

navychop said:
I suspect Fox will make me consider 2-3 more Apple TV STB purchases.

As long as my Roku Ultra works I will use it. I use it for all of my streaming apps except for Prime. I read that Prime works best with Android TV's.

navychop

Today at 1:03 PM

Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?

osu1991

Today at 1:11 PM

navychop said:
Hmmm. Not watching much Prime, but it would be on our Apple TV STB.

You know of any drawbacks using Ultra and Prime?

Prime seems to have a problem passing the DV/HDR metadata to Roku and Apple devices, but no problem with their Fire devices.

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Juan

Today at 1:50 PM

dishstaller said:
That is what I have to explain to customers all the time. They want it free with no ads

The ads are boring and repetitive...same ad over and over...bring back 1970s ads..might not be as big an issue

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 12:48 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Last reply Today at 12:47 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
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Bobby

Yesterday at 11:49 AM

Regular$5.459
Premium$5.899
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

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Billboard along I-10 had reg at $3.81 and diesel at $5.54

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Today at 11:10 AM

Regular$5.399
Premium$5.899
Diesel$7.999
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Today at 11:49 AM

$3.55

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$3.45 in Jane, MO.

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I’ve never seen this before (and it’s 20 years old.)

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