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I know I complain a lot, but what's happening here is ridiculous.
Here's a timeline of events:
My bill was due today. I paid via the Dish website early this afternoon ON TIME.
Yesterday, a day BEFORE the bill I was due, I got a kind of jerky automated phone call talking "reminding me" that "you agreed" (the "you" was in a particular insulting tone, like a school teacher lecturing a recalcitrant elementary school student) to pay the bill and that if it wasn't paid, the service would get disconnected and service restart or early termination fees would apply. They called again today with another automated voice mail along the same lines. Keep in mind, these were both before the bill was due -- not collection calls. I didn't do anything wrong or fail to pay on-time or whatever.
So, anyway, I pay my bill on the Dish website early this afternoon, the day it's due, on-time. Alright, no problem, right? I decide to relax tonight, many hours later, and watch the game. When I turn on my television, a message appears in the center of the screen saying my bill is due and I need to pay. To make the message disappear, I had to click cancel with my remote, like an Internet pop-up ad. Then, some time passes, and the (*$@ thing appears again.
Look, I paid my $%@! bill. And, you know what? It's not due until midnight tonight. So, technically, I could have waited to pay until 11:59pm and been perfectly in line with the terms of my contract. I usually pay weeks ahead of time, but I don't have to.
Many years ago, I had some bills (Not with Dish) that went past due, and had to deal with actual bill collectors who had justified reasons to harass me. Guess what? They weren't half as bad as Dish Network is harassing me, and I've always paid my Dish Network bill on-time, it's not overdue. I even paid it this afternoon.
It's not so much that it's a hassle, though it is at least a minor one, it's that it's insulting. I paid for this service, I don't want this company bothering me about bills I've already paid (and on-time) on my television screen blocking the game I'm watching trying to unwind. I don't want a bunch of (at least mildly) threatening phone calls from automated robo callers. It's just uncalled for.
While we're on the subject, I don't think I need a bright bolded letter warning on the outside of my Dish Network bill envelope every week warning me that I need to pay my bill on time or service will be discontinued. I may have questionable credit, but I'm not retarded (No offense intended to those who are). I know I need to pay my bill. And I do every single month. I've never failed to pay my Dish bill on time.
And I just think about the reverse. Imagine if I had some automated system reminding Dish Network every day via a telephone call that they needed to continue to provide me service as per our contract or I'd sue them for breach of contract? How long do you think it would take them to complain to me? Imagine if I somehow hacked into their television at their executives' homes and put an on-screen message there blocking their program that kept popping up every few minutes? I'd never do any of that, because I wouldn't treat people that way. I wonder why this company feels it can treat it's customers this way.
And this on the heels of them denying me the free HD for life they advertised and then charging me for an install while raising my rates with a month or two of signing up (Even though one would think if you contract for something, your rates would be locked in).
This is really BS. If I wasn't under contract, I'd quit effective two months from now and go back to cable as a new customer in a heartbeat.
I'm having issues with Internet, too, but at least they don't literally harass me, and there's no contract there, so I can and plan to terminate my service with them in a couple months and go back to cable Internet.
Here's a timeline of events:
My bill was due today. I paid via the Dish website early this afternoon ON TIME.
Yesterday, a day BEFORE the bill I was due, I got a kind of jerky automated phone call talking "reminding me" that "you agreed" (the "you" was in a particular insulting tone, like a school teacher lecturing a recalcitrant elementary school student) to pay the bill and that if it wasn't paid, the service would get disconnected and service restart or early termination fees would apply. They called again today with another automated voice mail along the same lines. Keep in mind, these were both before the bill was due -- not collection calls. I didn't do anything wrong or fail to pay on-time or whatever.
So, anyway, I pay my bill on the Dish website early this afternoon, the day it's due, on-time. Alright, no problem, right? I decide to relax tonight, many hours later, and watch the game. When I turn on my television, a message appears in the center of the screen saying my bill is due and I need to pay. To make the message disappear, I had to click cancel with my remote, like an Internet pop-up ad. Then, some time passes, and the (*$@ thing appears again.
Look, I paid my $%@! bill. And, you know what? It's not due until midnight tonight. So, technically, I could have waited to pay until 11:59pm and been perfectly in line with the terms of my contract. I usually pay weeks ahead of time, but I don't have to.
Many years ago, I had some bills (Not with Dish) that went past due, and had to deal with actual bill collectors who had justified reasons to harass me. Guess what? They weren't half as bad as Dish Network is harassing me, and I've always paid my Dish Network bill on-time, it's not overdue. I even paid it this afternoon.
It's not so much that it's a hassle, though it is at least a minor one, it's that it's insulting. I paid for this service, I don't want this company bothering me about bills I've already paid (and on-time) on my television screen blocking the game I'm watching trying to unwind. I don't want a bunch of (at least mildly) threatening phone calls from automated robo callers. It's just uncalled for.
While we're on the subject, I don't think I need a bright bolded letter warning on the outside of my Dish Network bill envelope every week warning me that I need to pay my bill on time or service will be discontinued. I may have questionable credit, but I'm not retarded (No offense intended to those who are). I know I need to pay my bill. And I do every single month. I've never failed to pay my Dish bill on time.
And I just think about the reverse. Imagine if I had some automated system reminding Dish Network every day via a telephone call that they needed to continue to provide me service as per our contract or I'd sue them for breach of contract? How long do you think it would take them to complain to me? Imagine if I somehow hacked into their television at their executives' homes and put an on-screen message there blocking their program that kept popping up every few minutes? I'd never do any of that, because I wouldn't treat people that way. I wonder why this company feels it can treat it's customers this way.
And this on the heels of them denying me the free HD for life they advertised and then charging me for an install while raising my rates with a month or two of signing up (Even though one would think if you contract for something, your rates would be locked in).
This is really BS. If I wasn't under contract, I'd quit effective two months from now and go back to cable as a new customer in a heartbeat.
I'm having issues with Internet, too, but at least they don't literally harass me, and there's no contract there, so I can and plan to terminate my service with them in a couple months and go back to cable Internet.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Starting a thread klang !
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. 
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Patrick Stewart, ‘Star Trek’ Captain and ‘X-Men’ Superhero, Dies at 86
He’s forever known for playing Jean-Luc Picard and Charles Xavier, whom he “admired for their morality, for their kindness, for their sensitivity, for their compassion.”
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
Additional tabs provide:
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Good...simple humor. Enjoy
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJy0WnejlF4
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I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
Actually it looks like there are a lot of features new or updated, although most are on a gradual rollout schedule.
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KB5127936 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Preview build 26200.9818 (25H2) and 26300.9818 (26H2) - Oct. 28
Microsoft Support: This cumulative update for Windows 11, versions 26H2 and 25H2 (KB5127936), includes production-quality improvements. Announcements and messages This section provides key notifications related to this release, including announcements, change logs, and end-of-support notices...
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
www.tvtechnology.com
Pearl TV Issues Progress Report on Low-Cost 3.0 Converters in Advance of NAB Show New York
Group has secured lower pricing from key tech players to make less costly boxes available
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
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WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.
There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. 
Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.
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Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.
Nearly 3 In 10 New-Car Trade-Ins Are Underwater, Edmunds Finds<!-- --> | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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