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I would have been watching last night had I known that. I wasn't even looking for it, though, because I assumed I didn't get it. A lot of playoff games and some Stanley Cup Finals games being on a channel you don't get tends to have that effect -- at some point, you guess wrong about what you get or don't get and do something else with your time. I'm beginning to really strongly dislike Dish.

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Sweet! So the MLS games I was missing that were on Galavision wasn't my fault, but Dish's because they didn't tell me about them. I love it when I can blame someone else for something!

And cable doesn't go out every time there's a storm, or some random glitch at Dish HQ.

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Good news, Dish Network and Directv don't go out with every storm either.

18 monthsish to go until I can drop Dish... I wish I could leave now, but this stupid contract holds me hostage unless I want to pay a ransom-like ETF to get out of my deal.

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You are free to change the package you subscribe to. Of course, some people think that when they lower their Sat/Cable bill, they should get more channels too.

Hey, guess what? If I knew I'd get the games, I'd have turned the fricking television set on and looked around for it, and found the game on NBC.

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Or looked at some TV guide or put out at least a tiny bit of effort.

With this stupid crap where Dish Network doesn't pick up a lot of channels, including basic ones, I got a little confused and thought it was on Versus, which I don't get, and which does have exclusive rights to a lot of the playoff games, and a couple Stanley Cup Finals games.

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So, are you upset that Dish Network has Versus, ie the channel with the exclusive rights to the NHL? Because otherwise, you mixed a couple unrelated thoughts together there.

I'm sorry I'm not a television programming expert with a perfect memory. I shouldn't have to be either to watch the Stanley Cup Finals on a service I pay for.

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Agreed. I shouldn't have to pay extra for porn. I pay my bill, I pay my taxes! Where is the porn?!

It should just be there, every night, every game. Period.

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Good news, every game is available, you just have to pay to get it. Kind of like how I don't get any games on ESPN or ESPN 2 now because I have Latino Dos. I weighed my options and felt that I didn't want to pay so much money for the bill, so I made a compromise and tried to gain access to what I wanted most, for the price I was willing to pay. If I wanted to watch ESPN, I need to pay for it, the same goes for HBO or Versus.

Yespage said:

Good news, Dish Network and Directv don't go out with every storm either.

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Every storm was an exaggeration on my part, but it happens at least a couple of times a month, sometimes it'll even go into a loop where it gets knocked out, spends 5-10 minutes trying to reacquire a satellite signal, reaquires it, and then gets knocked out again. I once had that cycle happen six times in a row.

You are free to change the package you subscribe to.

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Sure, if I don't want to eat this month.

My point is, once the promotional rate is up, the rate isn't really that different from a similar SD cable package, but you get a lot less.

Or looked at some TV guide or put out at least a tiny bit of effort.

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I had thought I had heard that the first three games were on Versus, which I know I don't get. I probably looked it up at some point and then got confused. But, hey, maybe I should check every day and spend time memorizing whether I get every game I might want to watch each day. Or they could just provide the freaking channels in their base package like cable does.

So, are you upset that Dish Network has Versus, ie the channel with the exclusive rights to the NHL? Because otherwise, you mixed a couple unrelated thoughts together there.

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Should be in a tier you don't have to be rich to afford.

Agreed. I shouldn't have to pay extra for porn. I pay my bill, I pay my taxes! Where is the porn?!

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On the Internet. You're welcome.

Good news, every game is available, you just have to pay to get it. Kind of like how I don't get any games on ESPN or ESPN 2 now because I have Latino Dos. I weighed my options and felt that I didn't want to pay so much money for the bill, so I made a compromise and tried to gain access to what I wanted most, for the price I was willing to pay. If I wanted to watch ESPN, I need to pay for it, the same goes for HBO or Versus.

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If you found something that makes you happy, more power to you. For my part, when I sacrifice to pay a bill each month, I expect at least a certain basic level of service -- channel and programming availability, lack of outages, etc.. While I'm on a promotional rate, maybe this deal isn't so bad, but I've got a contract that's going to force me to stick around and pay regular price for a service that doesn't meet my expectations. It seems like as the years pass, everyone wants us to pay more and get less. When I was growing up, my parents subscribed to basic wire into the television cable -- it was much cheaper -- and you could watch the Stanley Cup Finals, every game, every year without fail. But across the board in the industry, prices keep going up, and oftentimes even while they add more channels, you actually get less of the programming you want to see. That old cable package years ago might have only had like 50 channels, but it had almost all of the programming I wanted to see -- Dish Network technically offers over on 120 channels on the AT120+, but it's missing basic stuff that was in the that old cable package, in favor of a bunch of channels that literally consist of 24/7 infomercials and such.

If Dish, say, made the promotional rates the regular rates, this stuff would be easier to swallow. But, really, once I hit the regular rates until the point I cancel, I'll be paying just a few dollars less than an equivalent cable package and missing all sorts of stuff I'd get in that cable package. If Dish wants to play hardball with channels and can't offer the uptime cable has, etc., that might be worth it for deep deep price cuts. But not for the prices they're charging, especially not when you can get a promotional rate from cable for a while. Not that cable is great either -- they are suck in different ways -- but I am sort of getting sick of Dish's particular suckitude at this point. Unfortunately, the contract ties me to them for another year and a half... Man, I hate contracts. I usually make it a policy never to sign them for services, but finances are tight enough that I needed that promotional rate for a while and cable wasn't giving it to me because I was a loyal customer (Ironically).

HanoverPretzel said:

Should be in a tier you don't have to be rich to afford.

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Think about this, it is not DISH's fault for Verses to get the NHL deal, and before the deal was done, DISH already had the contract on Verses already and that contract is for the channel to be at AT 250. That could change once a new contract is signed. Kind of like what happened to FX it was on AT 200 then after the whole fox contract and stuff, in Feb. it became part of the AT 120 package.

after reading all six pages, i got to say, way to go everyone, you feed the troll his dinner, this thread should had just been locked after page one.

agreed...and its run off course too