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Sean or Scott...should we expect a press announcement on Monday that a final deal has been signed or whatever the next stage is?
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mike123abc
Rainbow DBS no longer has a sale value. The only "value" is that Dolan Sr would take it off their hands for free (provided he can come up with financing to cover the losses).

from the quarterly results:

The company's bottom line continued to be hurt by its Rainbow DBS unit, which includes Voom. It reported an operating loss of $449.8 million, including $354.9 million in asset write downs.

26,000 customers and they lost $449.8 in one quarter or each "customer" paid lets say $300 for the service or $7.8 million. If you take the write down out they lost $94.9 million dollars or $3,650 PER CUSTOMER.

The bleed rate has gotten so serious now that they can just turn off the whole system and crash R-1 into the earth ground station destroying both and save money after 2 quarters. Yes I know that is not what they would do but it is to illustrate the point.

Right now CVC sees getting back $200,000,000 of the money they are flushing down the toilet from Echostar, and a possible way to prevent the shutdown losses by letting Dolan Sr. take it off his hands.

Dolan Sr sees a way to salvage VOOM by HUGE cost cutting (i.e. lease some cheap Ku-FSS vs paying for an extreamly expensive R-1).

They have now indicated that having a working DBS system is not going to be sold for anything more than scrap. Running free public interest channels on R-1 to keep the frequencies hot until the sale of the satellite would save many millions if the sale of the VOOM assests to Dolan Sr does not go through.

Do you really think the board of CVC really cares about 26,000 angry customers when they would save $100 million per quarter turning them off?
Answer: NO, they voted to turn off the service and sell the assests BEFORE there was an agreement to sell the service to Dolan Sr. They looked at the numbers and saw that even if they get $0 for the assets they would save money soon. VOOM wiped all their profits out and then some last year.

Do you really think that really all the VOOM customers would be really angry? Some will be the other will realize that businesses go out of business and that VOOM was a nice idea but did not make it. I am sure CVC would simply refund any money that people had paid in advance.
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Mike, we can all play the "What If" game and come up with same or different conclusions. The last cards are yet to be played and VOOM is very much alive today and still transmitting from R 1 and soon from R 2. Don't bet on VOOM being out yet that's all I am saying. The "what if" game was good up until Dolar Sr. said that he was going to take the satellite company on his own and have an agreement by 2/28 with CVC. Whether CVC sees the DBS business as bad or good it does not matter anymore. They have agreed to get out of the business. What remains to be seeing is whether CVC will survive in its current form. I think analysts are more interested in knowing now whether CVC will be sold or what. CVC right now has a positive spin that every analyst have put on them and therefore has driven its stock value up the roof which in turns brings up the value of the company as a whole.
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Sean Mota said:
CVC right now has a positive spin that every analyst have put on them and therefore has driven its stock value up the roof which in turns brings up the value of the company as a whole.

Sean you didn't complete that thought. ....and in turn C. and T Dolan make more money to fiinance VOOM.
mike123abc
Monday will still be an exciting day to see how Dolan Sr. manages to come up with the money to finance VOOM. I fully expect that the has the money, and had the money lined up before the announcement was even made. It will just be nice to finally see the transition plan (hope they decide to make it public).
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I just hope they let us know somewhat soon. Then again after they let us know we wont have as much to speculate about.
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osu1991
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
meStevo
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Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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meStevo
I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
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TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
meStevo
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
osu1991
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


View: https://x.com/RapSheet/status/2111074303185989663?s=20
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dishstaller
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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIhZm0qkz0o
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Wedding - Billy Idol
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
dishstaller
Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson